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[Bruce]

a little place called 20/20 did a great cover story on e. other than that use your goddamn search engine instead of calling my post ignorant. i should bomb your ass for being a fucking piss ant

Prove it!!

Post any facts to support this ignorant comment.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Dispelling the "holes" theory:

http://www.dancesafe.org/48hours.html

One issue, however, must be clarified. The MTV program profiled a young woman who had been a frequent user of ecstasy and a number of other drugs. On the program, the woman's doctor displayed a brain scan which suggested that her brain was full of holes, implying that the "holes" resulted from ecstasy use. Below is a clarification of the meaning of the brain scan written by Rick Doblin, Ph.D. President of MAPS.

The recent MTV special on MDMA showed the results of a SPECT scan of a young woman, Lynn Smith, who had used a very large amount of MDMA. Lynn's doctors reported that her SPECT scan showed "holes in the brain" similar to what a scan would look like of an elderly woman who had had multiple small strokes.

The graphic image shown on the MTV special was a 3-D reconstruction of the SPECT image, which clearly showed dramatic and frightening holes throughout her brain. However, this image was in no way a visual representation of the structure of her brain The SPECT scan actually measured the variation in cerebral blood flow in Lynn's brain. The 3-D image was then created by assigning a different color to different amounts of blood flow. How the graphic image looks is a matter of threshold effect on the image processing.

One can take any normal brain SPECT and lower the threshold (lower areas of blood flow assigned a low or zero level of color) , and one will see "holes" on the 3-D image. Conversely, you can also take the same image and adjust (increase) the threshold to "remove the holes". These are not absolute blood flow measurements. The "holes" simply demonstrate relatively lower blood flow compared to the entire brain. One cannot make any statements about whether it's normal or abnormal unless absolute blood flow measurements are made, which requires more sophisticated scanning procedures than were conducted on Lynn Smith.

Dr. Linda Chang, Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, has conducted a scientifically rigorous, controlled SPECT study in 21 MDMA users compared to 21 controls. [Chang, L. et al, Effect of Ecstasy ( 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine [MDMA]) on cerebral blood flow: a co-registered SPECT and MRI study. Psychiatry Research-Neuroimaging, Section 98 (2000) 15-28.]

The MDMA users in Dr. Chang's study averaged 211 exposures to MDMA, with a range of from 6-1500 exposures. The average amount of MDMA consumed was 13.1 grams. There were no significant differences in amount of cerebral blood flow between the MDMA users and the controls, either globally or in specific brain regions. Furthermore, none of the MDMA users showed any signs of stroke, as measured by MRI scans.

In Dr. Chang's study, 10 of the subjects were scanned again, after the administration of two doses of MDMA. Cerebral blood flow was reduced somewhat in some brain regions at two weeks after the last dose of MDMA. 2 subjects were scanned again after 10 weeks and were found to have elevated cerebral blood flow in some regions. Dr. Chang reported, "Our findings suggest that the initially decreased rCBF normalizes with time and may even increase above baseline at later time points."

That is only 1 case.. I was a heavy user back in 99-01, and I have no holes in my brain, and I am just as healthy then as I am now. These kind of stories piss me off, because its 1 person out of millions. Its like that one xtc commerical they kept playing all the time the last few years about this guys daughter who died and they did the tox screen and only drug in her system was xtc.. Xtc maybe it did kill her, but maybe she had other conditions that contributed to her death as well..

 

[Bruce]

i am not trying to start a fire. simply passing on info that i have seen, trust me ive done my share of e and hope to god there are no holes in my brain. i take it that the examples, such as the girl on abc whose brain had holes were doing a lot of other drugs at a much greater rate than you or I. still if there is a chance that a compound could put holes in my brain true or not i want to know that.

That is only 1 case.. I was a heavy user back in 99-01, and I have no holes in my brain, and I am just as healthy then as I am now. These kind of stories piss me off, because its 1 person out of millions. Its like that one xtc commerical they kept playing all the time the last few years about this guys daughter who died and they did the tox screen and only drug in her system was xtc.. Xtc maybe it did kill her, but maybe she had other conditions that contributed to her death as well..

 

[AinteasybeingDiesie]

Dude e was originally created as an psychiatric drug. The shit is medicial man, at the most stressfull times in my life I used it like therapy, and it works!
--- plus it makes me like a machine in bed bro.
anything in modoration is okay.

 

[Big_Joe]

I know this has been said before but why do you think they call it dope?

 

[bbkingpin]

Dude e was originally created as an psychiatric drug. The shit is medicial man, at the most stressfull times in my life I used it like therapy, and it works!
--- plus it makes me like a machine in bed bro.
anything in modoration is okay.

That's right ... everything in moderation.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Dude e was originally created as an psychiatric drug. The shit is medicial man, at the most stressfull times in my life I used it like therapy, and it works!
--- plus it makes me like a machine in bed bro.
anything in modoration is okay.

So doing coke and heroin in moderation is ok? Im sure that is not what you are teaching your kids, if you have any..

 

[bigmouth2006]

I know this has been said before but why do you think they call it dope?

all drugs release dopamine in the brain and there the word dope is born

 

[DiggerDan3]

a little place called 20/20 did a great cover story on e. other than that use your goddamn search engine instead of calling my post ignorant.

Still an ignorant (read NOT dumb) statement. Here's why...

Speaking as a generalization, in this case, accomplishes nothing. Being a member of this board you probably are aware of the 'generalizations' that take place in the media regarding AAS use/abuse. For example, when the media uses the phrase 'roid rage', the issue with teens using AAS and depression or ephedrine causing heart attacks of healthy users. The media plays these issues off like every person who uses steroids will go on a killing spree or every user of ephedrine will die of heart attack, even if you're healthy. Everyone on this board knows this bullshit is simply not true.

on cadavers of hardcore e users doctors find golf ball size holes in the brain.

I read this as a generalization about ecstasy users. Simply if you use ecstasy, even in moderation, your brain will have holes in it. Media/government propaganda at its worst.

U believe it cause 20/20 said so? If you do...then you are ignorant. To clarify what ignorant is...

ig·no·rant
adj.
1. Lacking education or knowledge.

I'd be more than happy to take this off the board and to email. I'd love to hear your experiences and insight regarding the use and abuse of MDMA.

i should bomb your ass for being a fucking piss ant

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P.S. At some point in each of our own lives we were ignorant about something. But when you're dumb, you're just dumb.

P.S.S. Didn't mean to hijack the thread. My sincere apologies.

 

[BigCracker]

I know this has been said before but why do you think they call it dope?

Roids are dope too. Chemical, vice, habit, hobby, or otherwise, if it makes you feel good it's dope. If it affects your life, relationships, physical or mental well being in a negative way, you have a problem. If it's something you can't live without, you're an addict. Denial is the 1st sign. Nobody's perfect either, so don't feel bad. .