Recreational drugs and steroids

[JuiceHead659]

The "holes in your brain" from E are actually bullshit. Watch "Ecstasy Rising" by Peter Jennings (Nightline)...he dispells all of the government sponsored E-Myths.

i FELT LIKE WORLD GOT LIFTED OFF MY SHOULDERS WHEN i SEEN THAT SHOW. HAD ALOT OF PARTYING BACK IN THE DAY.

I THINK REC DRUGS ARE COMPLETLY DIFFERNT FROM AAS. WHILE JUICE MAY BE SOMEWHAT HARMFUL TO THE BODY THINK OF THE BENEFITS BECAUSE ALL YOU DO IS WORK OUT EVERYDAY (MAYBE 1 OFF), EAT HEALTY AND DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO BE PERFECTLY FIT. FOR ME ALL JUICE DOES IS GIVE ME CRAVING THAT I NEED AFTER WORK OR ON A SAT MORNING TO GET TO THE GYM NO MATTER WHAT AND MAKE ME FEEL LIKE FUCKIN GREAT!! WHILE DRUGS BRINGS YOU DOWN. BUT IF I WAS NOT USING I WOULD PROBABLY BE EATING JUNK FOOD, DRINKING, DOING DRUGS ETC. WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE DOING MUCH MORE DAMAGE TO MY BODY. NOT TO MENTION BY COMING HERE AND GET GREAT INFO FROM THESE FINE BROS ON HOW TO KEEP SIDES TO A MIN.

YET REC DRUGS WILL GET YOU NO POSITIVITY EXPECT FOR HAVIN A GREAT FUCK WHILE ROLLIN ALL NIGHT. BUT YOU WILL FEEL LIKE SHIT AND DEPRESSED FOR THE NEXT 3 DAYS.

MY $.2 i THINK REC DRUGS AND AAS ARE NOT EVEN WORTH COMPARING

 

[Destroyer1986*]

Mods should fucking close this fucked up thread, one guy is talking about how he wants to try X and what he should stack with it.

Please ffs, lock it now.

 

[bbkingpin]

Mods should fucking close this fucked up thread, one guy is talking about how he wants to try X and what he should stack with it.

Please ffs, lock it now.

Lighten up, Francis.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

Lighten up, Francis.

Whatever rookie.

 

[BigCracker]

Mods should fucking close this fucked up thread, one guy is talking about how he wants to try X and what he should stack with it.

Please ffs, lock it now.

They're not going to lock this thread because it's quite apparent the majority of the board doesn't share your opinion.

For someone that looks like you do and leads such a contraversial lifestyle to look that way, you're being very closed minded. Looking great gives you pleasure in the same way hitting the crack pipe does for some. Granted, hitting the crackpipe may not be the greatest idea in the world, and BB/AAS may seem more rewarding physically/mentally, but we all have different wants and needs in life. Some of us are more intelligent than others as well. If you're always expecting people to be as smart as you are, you're probably going to end up being dissapointed in them a majority of the time. I don't even know why you're sweating it. Nature will weed out the weak ones on it's own without you trying to save people from themselves.

For the record, I'm not nearly as pro recreational drugs as it may seem. I just can't sweep the fact under the rug that many BB's use them. Most people believe recreational drugs and alcohol destroy lives-but don't forget the BB lifestyle we choose isn't without consequences. Many of us neglect our relationships because of our selfish ways. Anybody that's been criticized for stinking up their office at work with tuna and green beans or has skipped family dinner because they're dieting knows what I'm talking about. In addition, I can't even begin to discuss the # of failed marriages out there that were a direct result of one's choice to use AAS and the BB lifestyle. Regardless of how great you look, not many girls will approve of a guy spending so much time in the gym, dieting and using illegal AAS. For guys with kids, every $ you stick in your ass for nothing more than to appease your own vanity is a $ that could go in jr's college fund. That ain't gonna fly in many of even the best relationships.

Remember, the people that dance only appear to be insane by the people that can't hear the music.

Maybe you should join Napster?

 

[gautho]

I hope ya'll notice good ole gautho wants nothing to do with this topic.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

They're not going to lock this thread because it's quite apparent the majority of the board doesn't share your opinion.

For someone that looks like you do and leads such a contraversial lifestyle to look that way, you're being very closed minded. Looking great gives you pleasure in the same way hitting the crack pipe does for some. Granted, hitting the crackpipe may not be the greatest idea in the world, and BB/AAS may seem more rewarding physically/mentally, but we all have different wants and needs in life. Some of us are more intelligent than others as well. If you're always expecting people to be as smart as you are, you're probably going to end up being dissapointed in them a majority of the time. I don't even know why you're sweating it. Nature will weed out the weak ones on it's own without you trying to save people from themselves.

For the record, I'm not nearly as pro recreational drugs as it may seem. I just can't sweep the fact under the rug that many BB's use them. Most people believe recreational drugs and alcohol destroy lives-but don't forget the BB lifestyle we choose isn't without consequences. Many of us neglect our relationships because of our selfish ways. Anybody that's been criticized for stinking up their office at work with tuna and green beans or has skipped family dinner because they're dieting knows what I'm talking about. In addition, I can't even begin to discuss the # of failed marriages out there that were a direct result of one's choice to use AAS and the BB lifestyle. Regardless of how great you look, not many girls will approve of a guy spending so much time in the gym, dieting and using illegal AAS. For guys with kids, every $ you stick in your ass for nothing more than to appease your own vanity is a $ that could go in jr's college fund. That ain't gonna fly in many of even the best relationships.

Remember, the people that dance only appear to be insane by the people that can't hear the music.

Maybe you should join Napster?

Why I am sweating it? Let me see this part of the board is the Steroid discussion section. Not the recreational drugs section. You dont see me posting my cycle in the Between the sheets area. So the only place this thread belongs is in the trash.

So therefore you justify what im against is complete crap, I would not come into your corner "the reccies corner" and badmouth them there its not my place but when I see this rubbish being place in an innapropriate area I get
pissed.

Oh and that argument about how many lives/marriages have been ruined as a result of AAS, LMFAO. Is this a desperate plea to defend your reccie addiction. How many lives have been ruined as a direct result of recreational use?

Who gives a fuck what the girls like or do not like. I do it for me, I get great accomplishment of being the best I can be, I have more focus and drive in other aspects of my life as a direct result of BBing, can you honestly say living a druggie livestyle will give you that same result?

Id rather be known as a bodybuilder than some drugged up fuck that dances against a wall for 2hrs because he OD on GHB or whatever.

 

[AhMadKooL]

Why I am sweating it? Let me see this part of the board is the Steroid discussion section. Not the recreational drugs section. You dont see me posting my cycle in the Between the sheets area. So the only place this thread belongs is in the trash.

So therefore you justify what im against is complete crap, I would not come into your corner "the reccies corner" and badmouth them there its not my place but when I see this rubbish being place in an innapropriate area I get
pissed.

Oh and that argument about how many lives/marriages have been ruined as a result of AAS, LMFAO. Is this a desperate plea to defend your reccie addiction. How many lives have been ruined as a direct result of recreational use?

Who gives a fuck what the girls like or do not like. I do it for me, I get great accomplishment of being the best I can be, I have more focus and drive in other aspects of my life as a direct result of BBing, can you honestly say living a druggie livestyle will give you that same result?

Id rather be known as a bodybuilder than some drugged up fuck that dances against a wall for 2hrs because he OD on GHB or whatever.

Right now I'm not on a cycle and I use Rec. Drugs once in a while. I have my own succesful programming bussines and I work out 4 times a week.

I disagree with people that say all rec users are junkies, druggies or losers. I'm living proof that it's not true.

 

[AhMadKooL]

As for this thread should be banned; I agree 100 % with what BigCracker said about it being the norm among many BBer's to use rec drugs and steroids.

 

[jdevlin1985]

an elite member died from this exact topic. Mixing rec drugs and gear. DNP but still not a damn good idea

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=455455&highlight=member+died+dnp

 

[BigCracker]

Why I am sweating it? Let me see this part of the board is the Steroid discussion section. Not the recreational drugs section. You dont see me posting my cycle in the Between the sheets area. So the only place this thread belongs is in the trash.

So therefore you justify what im against is complete crap, I would not come into your corner "the reccies corner" and badmouth them there its not my place but when I see this rubbish being place in an innapropriate area I get
pissed.

Oh and that argument about how many lives/marriages have been ruined as a result of AAS, LMFAO. Is this a desperate plea to defend your reccie addiction. How many lives have been ruined as a direct result of recreational use?

Who gives a fuck what the girls like or do not like. I do it for me, I get great accomplishment of being the best I can be, I have more focus and drive in other aspects of my life as a direct result of BBing, can you honestly say living a druggie livestyle will give you that same result?

Id rather be known as a bodybuilder than some drugged up fuck that dances against a wall for 2hrs because he OD on GHB or whatever.

Instead you're a drugged up freak that stares at his muscles in the mirror for pleasure. You've already Od'ed- on your own ego. It's guys like you with their self righteous, outspoken beliefs, and arrogance that get us BB's stereotyped as being socially illiterate dickheads to begin with. The roid thing is secondary, and just happens to be a convenient insult after the fact.

Now go eat some steroids for breakfast and train off some of your opinionated views. With a few dozen bottles of Synthol and some good luck you might win Mr Back Yard by 2010.

 

[AhMadKooL]

an elite member died from this exact topic. Mixing rec drugs and gear. DNP but still not a damn good idea

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=455455&highlight=member+died+dnp

From the links you posted it says:

"As far as the autopsy goes, x and other recreational drugs were never tested, but in the doctor's notes perrin was given lasix + mannitol + potassium solution. All his electrolyte levels were extremely high. Potassium levels were about 20x above the amount that would cause death. This is a direct result of hypertonic mannitol. Btw, Perrin was fine when he was forced to the hospital by his mom. He only slipped under after the doctors tried to "flush out" the "poison" from his body, but they did not monitor his electrolyte levels and had no idea that diuretics contraindicated dnp. This is the direct cause of his death, not dnp, x, or crystal meth..."

This indicates it was the doctors mistake that caused the death. Plus DNP by itself is dangerous.

 

[BigCracker]

From the links you posted it says:

"As far as the autopsy goes, x and other recreational drugs were never tested, but in the doctor's notes perrin was given lasix + mannitol + potassium solution. All his electrolyte levels were extremely high. Potassium levels were about 20x above the amount that would cause death. This is a direct result of hypertonic mannitol. Btw, Perrin was fine when he was forced to the hospital by his mom. He only slipped under after the doctors tried to "flush out" the "poison" from his body, but they did not monitor his electrolyte levels and had no idea that diuretics contraindicated dnp. This is the direct cause of his death, not dnp, x, or crystal meth..."

This indicates it was the doctors mistake that caused the death. Plus DNP by itself is dangerous.

Strange. My high school friend died the same way from using alcohol and recreational drugs. The Drs pumping his stomach is actually what killed him, not the alcohol and drugs he was using that made him sick enough to go to the hospital. He should've just stayed home and tried to sleep it off. Hindsight is always 20/20-too late now though.

 

[bigrand]

Mods should fucking close this fucked up thread, one guy is talking about how he wants to try X and what he should stack with it.

Please ffs, lock it now.

Hope you are not talking about me.........

So fuckin what if someone wants to try something??!! I certainly dont want to be a consistant user. Ive used opiates plenty of times, im still here doing just fine! The only reccies im interested in are X cuz, again, ive never tried it and i can get good clean shit not cut with speed from a buddy, which is the only way ill do it....and opiates from time to time, a couple vicodin every once and awhile to relax isnt going to kill you, i never said i would pop 20-30 a day everyday, im not fucking retarded. ETOH is a rec drug, i dont care what anyone says.......dont even say you never drink.

Pure MDMA (the shit psychs used to give to patients to open up and be more emotional) isnt that bad in moderation, just like everything else........

Im well aware of the risks associated with drug use of any kind. There are plenty of people in this world and on this board who have used/use these things and are doing just fine......every other weekend or once a month is far from junkie status........

If you really dont like this stuff, stop posting.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

Hope you are not talking about me.........

So fuckin what if someone wants to try something??!! I certainly dont want to be a consistant user. Ive used opiates plenty of times, im still here doing just fine! The only reccies im interested in are X cuz, again, ive never tried it and i can get good clean shit not cut with speed from a buddy, which is the only way ill do it....and opiates from time to time, a couple vicodin every once and awhile to relax isnt going to kill you, i never said i would pop 20-30 a day everyday, im not fucking retarded. ETOH is a rec drug, i dont care what anyone says.......dont even say you never drink.

Pure MDMA (the shit psychs used to give to patients to open up and be more emotional) isnt that bad in moderation, just like everything else........

Im well aware of the risks associated with drug use of any kind. There are plenty of people in this world and on this board who have used/use these things and are doing just fine......every other weekend or once a month is far from junkie status........

If you really dont like this stuff, stop posting.

Yes I am referring to you, why you posting about your reccie use in a steroid section and you expect me not to get angry? I never said it was going to kill you.
Just dont come to me or this board for advice when X starts eating away at your muscle and then you come here asking for a cycle on how to get jacked.

 

[bigrand]

Yes I am referring to you, why you posting about your reccie use in a steroid section and you expect me not to get angry? I never said it was going to kill you.
Just dont come to me or this board for advice when X starts eating away at your muscle and then you come here asking for a cycle on how to get jacked.

I wasnt asking for sources for X, i was saying i would need to find the pure shit that wasnt cut, the kind psychiatrists used to use......
I dont feel like there is anything wrong with trying something or limiting its use, especially when there isnt substantial evidence showing it will eat your brain or muscles, str8 MDMA shouldnt do that if used sparingly. I dont mainline heroin, do hella lines and all that shit......im talkin once and awhile with friends.....take some pills to relax and have a good time, sleep it off, do it again a few weeks later............far from life threatening. Im not into going crazy with the shit, i do care about my future, but also want to live a little.

I too know people who have/are currently fucking their lives up on reccies, they dont have self control and dont seem to care anyway, two things i differ in. REsponsible drinking/drug use isnt bad, if its responsible.
I know you have had drinks socially.....ETOH is quite dangerous also, only difference is its legal.

I dont plan to "stack" all these things like you thought i said.....two things, one a first time, the other, everyonce in awhile, not stacked.


Its nothing to get "angry" about, we differ in opinion, if i fuck up, i will have no body to blame but myself.....but i dont plan on fucking up...thats why i research and take moderate spreadout doses!!!!!

Peace Bro!!!!!

 

[Destroyer1986*]

I wasnt asking for sources for X, i was saying i would need to find the pure shit that wasnt cut, the kind psychiatrists used to use......
I dont feel like there is anything wrong with trying something or limiting its use, especially when there isnt substantial evidence showing it will eat your brain or muscles, str8 MDMA shouldnt do that if used sparingly. I dont mainline heroin, do hella lines and all that shit......im talkin once and awhile with friends.....take some pills to relax and have a good time, sleep it off, do it again a few weeks later............far from life threatening. Im not into going crazy with the shit, i do care about my future, but also want to live a little.

I too know people who have/are currently fucking their lives up on reccies, they dont have self control and dont seem to care anyway, two things i differ in. REsponsible drinking/drug use isnt bad, if its responsible.
I know you have had drinks socially.....ETOH is quite dangerous also, only difference is its legal.

I dont plan to "stack" all these things like you thought i said.....two things, one a first time, the other, everyonce in awhile, not stacked.


Its nothing to get "angry" about, we differ in opinion, if i fuck up, i will have no body to blame but myself.....but i dont plan on fucking up...thats why i research and take moderate spreadout doses!!!!!

Peace Bro!!!!!

Stay Safe .

 

[BigCracker]

Stay Safe .

Isn't that special?

 

[Bruce]

i had a great time on them as well, i still wanna pop ex. but its bad shit and like destroyer said this is gonna make kids wanna do it and i don't want ef responsible

 

[ortiz34]

i had a great time on them as well, i still wanna pop ex. but its bad shit and like destroyer said this is gonna make kids wanna do it and i don't want ef responsible

LMAO! A TBOL blow up doll ! You are phucked

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

around and around this thread goes ...and where it stops ...well ???

...there's a lot of resentment and hypocrisy here ...now you add some high ando products to the mix ...and you've got some of the reponses posted ...which only makes this a distorted, pointless, emotional, fuckin' mess of a thread that really should be aborted ...i mean the further it goes the less and less it has anything to do with either AAS or REC drugs and the more it has to do with people's deep rooted emotional junk.
...i'm tellin you it won't be long before we know who's mommas didn't love'em and who's got daddy issues LOL.

also, no malice here OK

 

[drrman]

this thread was dead pretty much bro....you're the one brougt it back! lol

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

this thread was dead pretty much bro....you're the one brougt it back! lol

why your right

DAMN IT!!!!! ...sorry bout that
shhhhhh maybe nobody else will notice ...LMAO

 

[dullboy]

Why I am sweating it? Let me see this part of the board is the Steroid discussion section. Not the recreational drugs section. You dont see me posting my cycle in the Between the sheets area. So the only place this thread belongs is in the trash.

So therefore you justify what im against is complete crap, I would not come into your corner "the reccies corner" and badmouth them there its not my place but when I see this rubbish being place in an innapropriate area I get
pissed.

Oh and that argument about how many lives/marriages have been ruined as a result of AAS, LMFAO. Is this a desperate plea to defend your reccie addiction. How many lives have been ruined as a direct result of recreational use?

Who gives a fuck what the girls like or do not like. I do it for me, I get great accomplishment of being the best I can be, I have more focus and drive in other aspects of my life as a direct result of BBing, can you honestly say living a druggie livestyle will give you that same result?

Id rather be known as a bodybuilder than some drugged up fuck that dances against a wall for 2hrs because he OD on GHB or whatever.

dullboy respects you and your opinion but you're coming off as extremely self righteous and close minded with your replies in this thread.

dullboy isn't foolish enough to brag about personal drug use on a public messageboard, but would like to inform you that he spent this past Saturday night at a birthday party in NYC with a group of individuals who are medical doctors, ivy league j.d.'s (law review), business owners, esteemed members of their communities, etc. and they all use recreational drugs. dullboy ain't just talking weed and these aren't young people.

This shouldn't be earth shattering news to you.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

dullboy respects you and your opinion but you're coming off as extremely self righteous and close minded with your replies in this thread.

dullboy isn't foolish enough to brag about personal drug use on a public messageboard, but would like to inform you that he spent this past Saturday night at a birthday party in NYC with a group of individuals who are medical doctors, ivy league j.d.'s (law review), business owners, esteemed members of their communities, etc. and they all use recreational drugs. dullboy ain't just talking weed and these aren't young people.

This shouldn't be earth shattering news to you.

Mate, even before you posted about your use I knew you were on something harsh. Explains the reason why you need to refer to yourself in the 3rd person.

 

[JuiceHead659]

all bullshitting aside, i had some real fun times on many of the drugs talked about in this post. back in the 90's you could get good x. then the 5.0 started busting down on the shit really hard, next thing you know, here comes k and ghb and other shit. then h hit the scene and everything was fucked up from there. the dance floors were bare and everybody was sitting on the floor and throwing up. i remember back in the day @ The Club @ Firestone in Orlando, Kimball Collins, Sasha, Dave Seaman, those were truly the good ol' days. I am living proof, extended use of GOOD drugs is not harmful in long term effects. I have no sides from them, my brain is fully intact, my speech is not slowed, only thing i suffer from is sitting around dreaming of dropping a couple love doves and grooving out until the sun comes up. anybody that kows what I'm talking about can you give me a Hell Yeah!!

Hell Yeah!!

 

[BigCracker]

I wasn't breast fed as a child so I think I feel less loved. However I do suck a lot of titties now as an adult to compensate.

 

[dullboy]

Mate, even before you posted about your use I knew you were on something harsh. Explains the reason why you need to refer to yourself in the 3rd person.

why the rhetorical barbs?

dullboy went out of his way not insult you because it's obvious to him that you have a high level of sensitivity regarding this issue.

dullboys point is that if you desire nothing to do with people who enjoy bending their minds once in a while, then you're going to be a very lonely person in life.

 

[drrman]

why the rhetorical barbs?

dullboy went out of his way not insult you because it's obvious to him that you have a high level of sensitivity regarding this issue.

dullboys point is that if you desire nothing to do with people who enjoy bending their minds once in a while, then you're going to be a very lonely person in life.

nice point there dull

 

[BigCracker]

I just say no. After getting tri-bombed on another thread making a joke about recreational drug users being losers I have decided to no longer entertain the thought of using drugs ever again. I have now found Jesus and I'm born again. I've already began to stockpile enough weapons, water, and non perishable goods to last a 5 yr stand. I'm recruiting new members for my church daily and eventually plan to have a big Kool Aid Party where everyone dies but me. Praise God for helping me to overcome the evils of drug use. I'm truly a changed man. Praise the lord. Amen.

 

[AhMadKooL]

I just say no. After getting tri-bombed on another thread making a joke about recreational drug users being I have decided to no longer entertain the thought of using drugs ever again. I have now found Jesus I'm born again. I've already began to stockpile enough weapons, water, and non perishable goods to last a 5 yr stand. I'm recruiting new members for my church daily and eventually plan to have a big Kool Aid Party where everyone dies but me. Praise God for helping me to overcome the evils of drug use. I'm truly a changed man. Praise the lord. Amen.

Haahaa thats funny shit man! LOL

 

[Destroyer1986*]

why the rhetorical barbs?

dullboy went out of his way not insult you because it's obvious to him that you have a high level of sensitivity regarding this issue.

dullboys point is that if you desire nothing to do with people who enjoy bending their minds once in a while, then you're going to be a very lonely person in life.

Very lonely person because I wont use recreational drugs? LOL. Coming from a guy who has racked up almost 2000posts in 7months and refers to himself in the 3rd person because no one will talk to him. Nice!

Take yourself back to C&C, and as for you Bigcracker very nice to see you bought religion into this.

You guys can enjoy life at 170lbs soaking wet!

 

[bigrand]

Simmer......

 

[BigCracker]

Very lonely person because I wont use recreational drugs? LOL. Coming from a guy who has racked up almost 2000posts in 7months and refers to himself in the 3rd person because no one will talk to him. Nice!

Take yourself back to C&C, and as for you Bigcracker very nice to see you bought religion into this.

You guys can enjoy life at 170lbs soaking wet!

I'm the founder of The Church Of . Roids were first discovered by Aliens and brought to this planet to better the human race.

 

[BigCracker]

Church Of Steroid-ology.

 

[BigCracker]

It only works w/ a hyphen. Strange.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

Very lonely person because I wont use recreational drugs? LOL. Coming from a guy who has racked up almost 2000posts in 7months and refers to himself in the 3rd person because no one will talk to him. Nice!

Take yourself back to C&C, and as for you Bigcracker very nice to see you bought religion into this.

You guys can enjoy life at 170lbs soaking wet!

please don't get bent ...i'm just askin' this question cuz i'm curious ...what would life be worth to you with out the AAS? ...if you had to weigh 170? ...would your "friends" still be there (seriously) or do you think they would fade away?
if you had an accident that left you disfigured (God forbid ...& i do sincerely mean God forbid ...just using it to illustrate a point) and you no longer had your physique as a source of self esteem (and as a source of love/respect/admiration from others) ...would life be worth living? maybe you could become really smart and get love/self esteem that way ...or maybe become rich or ...you get the point.

it sounds (and i did say it SOUNDS) like you resent other sources of self esteem/love other than the one you've chosen for yourself ...and with your physique you're at the top of that source of love/self esteem.
so to you REC drugs = loser (smart = nerd/geek, 170lbs = weak, women that don't respond to your physique = a bitch/lez ...etc. etc. etc.) ...if only life were so simple ...i do however supect that you consider yourself elite even to your fellow AAS peers (and looking at your pics it's not unfounded) ...try to remember i said I SUSPECT and not that it is this way also i'll say that i don't know you and that this suspicion is based on this thread only ...so everybody keep that in mind.

i don't use REC drugs either nor am i condoning it ...but to think or say that the use AAS is any better or safer is just nieve ...WE'RE NOT ANY BETTER ...just different and perhaps more aware and more socially acceptable ...think about it slin, hgh, t-3, hormones, anti-this and anti-that, a million cals/day, 1/2 million grams of protien, no blood test in most cases ...come on!!! ...truely dangerous stuff ...what we are is fuckin' lucky the human body is as resilient as it is in both the case of REC and AAS drug use.

great ...now i'm late for my shot and my shake.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

please don't get bent ...i'm just askin' this question cuz i'm curious ...what would life be worth to you with out the AAS? ...if you had to weigh 170? ...would your "friends" still be there (seriously) or do you think they would fade away?
if you had an accident that left you disfigured (God forbid ...& i do sincerely mean God forbid ...just using it to illustrate a point) and you no longer had your physique as a source of self esteem (and as a source of love/respect/admiration from others) ...would life be worth living? maybe you could become really smart and get love/self esteem that way ...or maybe become rich or ...you get the point.

it sounds (and i did say it SOUNDS) like you resent other sources of self esteem/love other than the one you've chosen for yourself ...and with your physique you're at the top of that source of love/self esteem.
so to you REC drugs = loser (smart = nerd/geek, 170lbs = weak, women that don't respond to your physique = a bitch/lez ...etc. etc. etc.) ...if only life were so simple ...i do however supect that you consider yourself elite even to your fellow AAS peers (and looking at your pics it's not unfounded) ...try to remember i said I SUSPECT and not that it is this way also i'll say that i don't know you and that this suspicion is based on this thread only ...so everybody keep that in mind.

i don't use REC drugs either nor am i condoning it ...but to think or say that the use AAS is any better or safer is just nieve ...WE'RE NOT ANY BETTER ...just different and perhaps more aware and more socially acceptable ...think about it slin, hgh, t-3, hormones, anti-this and anti-that, a million cals/day, 1/2 million grams of protien, no blood test in most cases ...come on!!! ...truely dangerous stuff ...what we are is fuckin' lucky the human body is as resilient as it is in both the case of REC and AAS drug use.

great ...now i'm late for my shot and my shake.

I said that comment because this is an AAS section, people come here to improve their physiques and habbits(eating, training, focusing etc.) Recreational talk has no place here. The reason why I said enjoy life at 170lbs soaking wet is because its a known fact recreational drugs such as X eat away at your muscle.

I realling think you need to research alot more mate, to class HGH, slin under AAS is a rediculous statement. Unlike AAS if you over dose on test which im talking about 1000mg/day YOU WILL NOT DIE! Maybe get some bad acne and elevate blood pressure. Over dose on Recreational drugs AND YOU WILL DIE, not might die. YOU WILL DIE!. So stating that AAS is much safer than Recreational drugs is not a naive statement. Its true.

 

[proken]

Gets much worse. Just heard on the news that the Mob is getting into the e game. Unfortunatly, it's financially cheaper to mix LSD and Crystal meth together than to actually make MDMA.... If you are in the rave scene and are on acid and meth you may as well drink draino and chase it with a bottle of lasix. PLEASE don't mix rec and roids. The only people I know that can get away with it in a small sence are the pot smokers. Doesn't seem to make much of a difference. Maybe motivation wise though.

 

[BigCracker]

I said that comment because this is an AAS section, people come here to improve their physiques and habbits(eating, training, focusing etc.) Recreational talk has no place here. The reason why I said enjoy life at 170lbs soaking wet is because its a known fact recreational drugs such as X eat away at your muscle.

I realling think you need to research alot more mate, to class HGH, slin under AAS is a rediculous statement. Unlike AAS if you over dose on test which im talking about 1000mg/day YOU WILL NOT DIE! Maybe get some bad acne and elevate blood pressure. Over dose on Recreational drugs AND YOU WILL DIE, not might die. YOU WILL DIE!. So stating that AAS is much safer than Recreational drugs is not a naive statement. Its true.

Great analogy-but a bottle consuming a bottle of aspirin will kill ya too and that's an OTC any 12 yr old can buy at the grocery store. Same goes for potassium supplements. So sayeth the lord.

 

[BigCracker]

please don't get bent ...i'm just askin' this question cuz i'm curious ...what would life be worth to you with out the AAS? ...if you had to weigh 170? ...would your "friends" still be there (seriously) or do you think they would fade away?
if you had an accident that left you disfigured (God forbid ...& i do sincerely mean God forbid ...just using it to illustrate a point) and you no longer had your physique as a source of self esteem (and as a source of love/respect/admiration from others) ...would life be worth living? maybe you could become really smart and get love/self esteem that way ...or maybe become rich or ...you get the point.

it sounds (and i did say it SOUNDS) like you resent other sources of self esteem/love other than the one you've chosen for yourself ...and with your physique you're at the top of that source of love/self esteem.
so to you REC drugs = loser (smart = nerd/geek, 170lbs = weak, women that don't respond to your physique = a bitch/lez ...etc. etc. etc.) ...if only life were so simple ...i do however supect that you consider yourself elite even to your fellow AAS peers (and looking at your pics it's not unfounded) ...try to remember i said I SUSPECT and not that it is this way also i'll say that i don't know you and that this suspicion is based on this thread only ...so everybody keep that in mind.

i don't use REC drugs either nor am i condoning it ...but to think or say that the use AAS is any better or safer is just nieve ...WE'RE NOT ANY BETTER ...just different and perhaps more aware and more socially acceptable ...think about it slin, hgh, t-3, hormones, anti-this and anti-that, a million cals/day, 1/2 million grams of protien, no blood test in most cases ...come on!!! ...truely dangerous stuff ...what we are is fuckin' lucky the human body is as resilient as it is in both the case of REC and AAS drug use.

great ...now i'm late for my shot and my shake.

I think Hannibal Lecter whispered the exact same thing to Miggs just before he choked on his own tongue and died.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

I said that comment because this is an AAS section, people come here to improve their physiques and habbits(eating, training, focusing etc.) Recreational talk has no place here. The reason why I said enjoy life at 170lbs soaking wet is because its a known fact recreational drugs such as X eat away at your muscle.

I realling think you need to research alot more mate, to class HGH, slin under AAS is a rediculous statement. Unlike AAS if you over dose on test which im talking about 1000mg/day YOU WILL NOT DIE! Maybe get some bad acne and elevate blood pressure. Over dose on Recreational drugs AND YOU WILL DIE, not might die. YOU WILL DIE!. So stating that AAS is much safer than Recreational drugs is not a naive statement. Its true.

oh brother!!!

...at this point what can i say that hasn't already been said???
...right???

you're stuck on your opinion and i'm sure you have your reasons, so i'm not gonna disrespect it just cuz it's different than mine (...just remember i don't use REC drugs either)

i'll just leave you with this, to discern is to see something for what it is without malice (innocent), if you add resentment to discernment ...now you've got judgement (hate/malice).

EXAMPLE OF DISCERNMENT:
to say that destroyer1986 is an athlete, fellow human being, who i'm sure has reasons or experiences that validate his opinion but prob has little to no PERSONAL USE expirience with REC drugs.

EXAMPLE OF JUDGEMENT:
to say that destroyer1986 is a close minded, hypocritical, one dementional, jock strap, who is a living reason AAS users are stereo typed as meatheads.

just so you know i always do my best to discern,
good luck

 

[BigCracker]

oh brother!!!

...at this point what can i say that hasn't already been said???
...right???

you're stuck on your opinion and i'm sure you have your reasons, so i'm not gonna disrespect it just cuz it's different than mine (...just remember i don't use REC drugs either)

i'll just leave you with this, to discern is to see something for what it is without malice (innocent), if you add resentment to discernment ...now you've got judgement (hate/malice).

EXAMPLE OF DISCERNMENT:
to say that destroyer1986 is an athlete, fellow human being, who i'm sure has reasons or experiences that validate his opinion but prob has little to no PERSONAL USE expirience with REC drugs.

EXAMPLE OF JUDGEMENT:
to say that destroyer1986 is a close minded, hypocritical, one dementional, jock strap, who is a living reason AAS users are stereo typed as meatheads.

just so you know i always do my best to discern,
good luck

Touche'

 

[dullboy]

Very lonely person because I wont use recreational drugs? LOL. Coming from a guy who has racked up almost 2000posts in 7months and refers to himself in the 3rd person because no one will talk to him. Nice!

Take yourself back to C&C, and as for you Bigcracker very nice to see you bought religion into this.

You guys can enjoy life at 170lbs soaking wet!

lol - put your guns away man...

you're behaving very badly. i'm serious - really poor form on your part.

you're not nearly as clever as you think you are.

and why do you care how much i post? maybe i'm a little bored because i'm filthy rich and i have a little extra free time on my hands. don't make too many assumptions about people based on a messageboard - it makes you seem ignorant and naive; which upon reflection, is a point you've already made all too clear to anyone who had the time to read your posts.


fyi - they started dullboy off with 500 posts because he joined a plat.



ps - i've got muscles too. lol

 

[doanekw]

"on cadavers of hardcore e users doctors find golf ball size holes in the brain."

bruce410, your a fucking idiot, why don't you do some research before you open your mouth and spread misinformation. Most of you guys are a bunch of narsisistic retards. Why do people do X? Cause its a blast, thats why. Recreational drugs are no different than prescription drugs, just use your head, and dont abuse em (too much) Pussy....

 

[BigCracker]

Die thread die!

 

[drrman]

"on cadavers of hardcore e users doctors find golf ball size holes in the brain."

bruce410, your a fucking idiot, why don't you do some research before you open your mouth and spread misinformation. Most of you guys are a bunch of narsisistic retards. Why do people do X? Cause its a blast, thats why. Recreational drugs are no different than prescription drugs, just use your head, and dont abuse em (too much) Pussy....

yep, no different at all huh jackass......cocain is just like an antibiotic, and heroin is not differnet either huh.....

 

[boston789]

all bullshitting aside, i had some real fun times on many of the drugs talked about in this post. back in the 90's you could get good x. then the 5.0 started busting down on the shit really hard, next thing you know, here comes k and ghb and other shit. then h hit the scene and everything was fucked up from there. the dance floors were bare and everybody was sitting on the floor and throwing up. i remember back in the day @ The Club @ Firestone in Orlando, Kimball Collins, Sasha, Dave Seaman, those were truly the good ol' days. I am living proof, extended use of GOOD drugs is not harmful in long term effects. I have no sides from them, my brain is fully intact, my speech is not slowed, only thing i suffer from is sitting around dreaming of dropping a couple love doves and grooving out until the sun comes up. anybody that kows what I'm talking about can you give me a Hell Yeah!!

Im in the same boat as you my friend. Im from the Boston area and used to stay up on night on E, K, Coke. Great times....I still graduated from a private university and am making a pretty decent living for just turning 23. No effects here...although my gf says I'm a little crazy but thats ok.

 

[ortiz34]

"on cadavers of hardcore e users doctors find golf ball size holes in the brain."

bruce410, your a fucking idiot, why don't you do some research before you open your mouth and spread misinformation. Most of you guys are a bunch of narsisistic retards. Why do people do X? Cause its a blast, thats why. Recreational drugs are no different than prescription drugs, just use your head, and dont abuse em (too much) Pussy....

Wow, you really need to chill. Calling out Bruce like that gets nothing accomplished, except serious temptation from me to blow you up.

 

[1Mistake2006]

Please!!! Some as users are the most close-minded people on the planet!! Juice is great but all rec drugs are bad?? Too funny. First off..MDMA does NOT put holes in your brain...watch less MTV and do more research!! The DEA didn't even want to place it in class A when they set the guidelines...they wanted class C....MDMA doesn't even meet class A criteria...anyway...of course not all rec drugs are the same.. don't knock someone on the board and come out with bogus science!! Personally I hate H and coke....whatever...I do think X is fun as hell!!!

J

 

[BigCracker]

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[gettinripped]

Please!!! Some as users are the most close-minded people on the planet!! Juice is great but all rec drugs are bad?? Too funny. First off..MDMA does NOT put holes in your brain...watch less MTV and do more research!! The DEA didn't even want to place it in class A when they set the guidelines...they wanted class C....MDMA doesn't even meet class A criteria...anyway...of course not all rec drugs are the same.. don't knock someone on the board and come out with bogus science!! Personally I hate H and coke....whatever...I do think X is fun as hell!!!

J

thats if you can find real deal rolls. so much garbage out there nowadays. i'l never forget some of my club nights with open winged doves or love doves. i still get butterflys even thinkning about that shit. damn wish i could find some!!

 

[1Mistake2006]

I hear ya... get a test kit from DanceSafe.org...it may just save your life!!!

J

 

[boston789]

Yeah dude...I hear ya I get bufferflies and chills, sometimes i get really hot and stuff. Also, who else gets flashbacks when they smell paper money???

 

[mr. snakes]

For People with experience:

What effects do rec drugs (eg Ecstasy, cocaine) and steroids have on the body?

The only Rec drug i use during a cycle is GHB. I use GHB at night right before i go to bed. GHB does not effect size & strenght gains in any negative way ...................

 

[TheOak84]

youll die... like scott klein...

ive seen him at clubs, in chicago, fuckin wasted all the time.. on E, coke, shrooms..

died at 30... (or 31)

weighed like 305 ripped... but obviouly his kidneys didnt care...

 

[mr. snakes]

youll die... like scott klein...

ive seen him at clubs, in chicago, fuckin wasted all the time.. on E, coke, shrooms..

died at 30... (or 31)

weighed like 305 ripped... but obviouly his kidneys didnt care...

Scott Klein.??? I won't die. When i do die someday, it won't be from GHB. It will be from years of roid usage ...........................................

 

[Mr.X]

The only Rec drug i use during a cycle is GHB. I use GHB at night right before i go to bed. GHB does not effect size & strenght gains in any negative way ...................

GHB is very addictive. Usually, the user will start with GHB as a sleeping aid and move into rec. use.

 

[happiest]

From what I understand E and C both interrupt the natural Dopamine, Nor-Epinephrine, and Seratonin levels in the brain, hence the "high". The problem exists when the body is suddenly without these fast-acting- extended half-life drugs, the time spent re-adjusting can be hellish and lead to further usage. Add this to the re-adjustment period coming off of AAS and it could spell major depression.
This is just the obvious psychological implication,but also realize when you injest ANYTHING to speed up the cardio and metabolic systems, it ages your body that much faster. This is why there are 20 year old speed freaks dropping dead with 90 year old hearts...

 

[str8w8]

there are pros and cons w/ aas.........however there are zero benefit from rec drugs