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Recovery questions (Mr. X) :D

Tactics51

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Ok I'm running 50 mg of winny ED for a 6 week cycle. This is the first gear I've ever ran and I've been trying to do some research on my downtime and what I should do to recover properly. I'm entering my third week of my cycle and am starting to notice some great gains. I've been big my whole life and have lived in the gym for the past 6 years of my life. I played football since I was 8 years old and all the way through college. I played fullback so I have always had a bigger boxy build, now that im done with sports I want to get a nice lean build goign for myself. So I guess this is actually a few part question here. How long should I take off after my cycle, the same amount of time I'm on from what I've read. Should I be taking any supplements to help speed my bodies recovery up? If any should I have some routine bloodwork done to check the toxicity of my my liver after running just winny. Last but not least I'm looking to run another heavy cutting cycle as soon as my rcovery period is over, and from the reading I've now doen I feel a little silly just having run Winny only this time around, any help for a great cutting stack for my next one? Thanks for all the help and sorry for any redundant dumb aquestions you guys probably answer every day. Just all my rl friends I know that run gear dont seem to care if they are around 10 years from now if they look good today, and people here seem to know whats up! So in advance ty!
 
1. The day after you stop taking winny start taking 20mg of Nolva ED for 5 weeks.
2. After you you finish the Nolva (Wait about a week) go get your blood work done.
3. Wait at least another 6 weeks (Assuming your blood work shows you Test levels are fine, and your liver values are in line) and Go at it again. This time do a real cycle - Maybe Test and EQ.
 
Bozwell said:
as Black Sheep says but Id run a bit of hcg, maybe 500ius eod for the first week of pct

Alright im gonna just come out and sound like a complete jackass but what does eq and nolva stand for, I'm not up on the net abbreviations. :(
 
yes nolva and hcg,,, for next cycle run a test only with winny at the end if you like your winny results... or deca/winny cause of the joint relief of deca,,, but test is best
 
Tactics51 said:
Alright im gonna just come out and sound like a complete jackass but what does eq and nolva stand for, I'm not up on the net abbreviations. :(


nolvadex and equipoise

Equipoise Substance: boldenone undecylenate
Description; Dose; Brand Name: Equipoise; 200 mg/cc; QV

Today, the substance boldenone undecylenate can only be found in steroids for veterinary medicine. The American Equipoise is for horses; the Columbian Ganabol is used for cattle; and the German Vebonol for dogs. Athletes do not care, which shows the enormous popularity and far-reaching application of these steroid compounds. Boldenone undecylenate is also very effective in humans and offers the athlete interesting characteristics which other steroids simply do not have.

Equipoise has a relatively high anabolic effect which is usually connected with a moderately distinct androgenic component. For this reason, Equipoise is not the steroid that will cause enormous gains in strength and muscle mass in the shortest time. Equipoise has a very favorable effect on the organism's nitrogen balance so that the main effect consists of a distinctly increased protein synthesis in the muscle cell. The resulting gain in body weight consists of a solid quality increase of the muscles which occurs slowly and evenly. The high quality is caused by low water retention of the substance. An additional advantage is that Equipoise aromatizes only slightly, thus making it an effective drug to use when preparing for competitions. Athletes who are dieting combine Equipoise with Winstrol Depot and report a dramatic increase in muscle hardness. Together with a sufficiently high supply of calories and protein this combination offers its users a large increase in strength and a rapid gain in qual-ity muscles. Many will notice that Equipoise stimulates the appe-tite. The advantages achieved can usually be well-maintained over several weeks after use of the compound is discontinued. Equipoise also stimulates the erythropoiesis which is manifested by improved development and the formation of red blood cells. Bodybuilders thus experience an improved pump effect during workout and an im-proved vascularity

For most male athletes the weekly dosage is usually 150-300 mg. Often since only the 25 mg version can be found, frequent or very voluminous injections are necessary For most athletes 50 mg (corresponding to a 2 ml injection) taken every second day is sufficient. Advanced and ambitious bodybuilders usually take higher doses (50 mg daily) and achieve dramatic results. Women also usually respond well to Equipoise and with 5 0-100 mg/week they gain good muscles with a low water retention. A dosage in this range is usually well tolerated. Higher dosages can cause virilization symptoms such as deep voice, increased production of the sebaccous gland and acne, increased libido and in some cases increased hair growth on the face and legs. Men have few problems with Equipoise. Since water and salt retentions are low, the blood pressure usually does not increase. Acne, gynecomastia, and increased aggressiveness occur only in rare instances. The feared "steroid fever," which can occur when using veterinary steroids, is rare with Equipoise since the product by Squibb is highly sterile and pure. Those who experience flu-like symptoms when they begin taking the compound should reduce the dosage for a short time. The price for a 10 ml vial is usu-ally around $90 to $150.



Nolvadex
Description: This drug is a potent nonsteroidal anti-estrogen. It is indicated for use in estrogen dependent tumors, i.e. breast cancer. Steroid users take Nolvadex to prevent the effects of estrogen in the body. This estrogen is most often the result of aromatizing steroids. Nolvadex can aid in preventing edema, gynecomastia, and female pattern fat distribution, all of which might occur when a man's estrogen levels are too high. Also, these effects can occur when androgen levels are too low, making estrogen the predominant hormone. This can occur when endogenous androgens have been suppressed by the prolonged use of exogenous steroids.
Nolvadex works by competitively binding to target estrogen sites like those at the breast. This drug is not toxic nor have any side effects been seen in athletes who used the drug' as an anti-estrogen. This drug is the most popular anti- estrogen amongst steroid users. Although it does not turn out to be 100% effective for everyone, it does seem to exhibit some level of effectiveness for the majority. It works so well for some bodybuilders they can take drugs like Anadrol right up to a contest as long as they stack it with Nolvadex. It would seem wise to take this drug in conjunction with any steroid cycle. Most reported a dosage of 10 mg to 20 mg daily got the job done.


There ya go :)

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Tactics51 said:
Alright im gonna just come out and sound like a complete jackass but what does eq and nolva stand for, I'm not up on the net abbreviations. :(

eq=equipose(steroid)
nolva=nolvadex( post cycle treatment option)
 
How long should I take off after my cycle, the same amount of time I'm on from what I've read.
time on = time off + PCT

Should I be taking any supplements to help speed my bodies recovery up?
Along with your PCT, you can take a few supplements like potassium and taurine.
The key for recovery is going to be your PCT, rest and diet.

here is a good potassium article
potassium information


If any should I have some routine bloodwork done to check the toxicity of my my liver after running just winny.
I would get your bloodwork done before and after your PCT to make sure you recovered from your cycle. Get your test levels checked and liver values

from the reading I've now doen I feel a little silly just having run Winny only this time around, any help for a great cutting stack for my next one?
I would like to discuss your stats/diet etc... 1st, but if I had to pick a cycle, test + arimidex would be it
 
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