There must be something wrong with me...I did not lose any gains in strength or sixe after doing a 30 day 3 pill cycle of 1 ad and i had good size and strngth gains...how do you guys train when on it? I only train heavy period because i aint no bidy builder...i would rather bench a truck...anyhow, i have found that if you train hevy, you dont lose anything on this stuff, now, on as it is a different dtory...any of you guys use the vpx products...i am using the decavar and i am doing a 4 weeker on it and i have increased decent on it...