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Recommended test type for first cycle?
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Most will say test e or c because of the ability not to pin often and less PIP ( post injection pain)
But I am a firm believer of test prop all around all the time because of it's natural ability to actually mimic natural rise and fall of natural hormone levels therefore the risk of any sides is lower .. And ur body's other hormones stay on track with ur test levels fluctuating like the body naturally does !! Found that estrogen control is easier and the amount of ur Ai does not have to be as high !! I speak from personal experience and years of reading
Normal test levels rise and fall through the day
High in the morning low in the evening
When on a long Ester or longer than prop ur levels are very high at the start and taper down through the week this causes a bunch of peaks and valleys this is why most guys pin a long Ester 2x a week to keep the highs and lows more level
I prefer a prop Ester on a eod pin
Normal Trt is 50 mg eod this will give ya the upper end of normal range !! Bout 900 ish
Now as for cycle good start is 100 eod to 150 eod only issue is if ur new to gear u will get a nice little bite at over 1 ml of prop the pip will be bad for some so bad hard to lift
So u have to ask urself this
Do u want to pin less and not hav much pip
Or do u want a nice smooth flow of test with virtually no peaks and valleys with ur hormones ?
The pip usually goes away after the Virgin muscles get used to the test
So it all is down to goals and preference
Prop is a better for less water retention and that dry lean look if ur already lean
The longer ones can have more water retention but ultimately it's how ur body reacts !! But most of the time a good Ai dose will keep things normal and less water
I have tried all the tests
Test cyp sucks for me gives me horrible acne
Test e is so so but I find my body just likes prop
All the way around it's the best test other than suspension but pip and pinning up to two times a day on suspension is not fun
So it comes down to what ur goals are and what ur willing to sacrifice and do
But I am a firm believer of test prop all around all the time because of it's natural ability to actually mimic natural rise and fall of natural hormone levels therefore the risk of any sides is lower .. And ur body's other hormones stay on track with ur test levels fluctuating like the body naturally does !! Found that estrogen control is easier and the amount of ur Ai does not have to be as high !! I speak from personal experience and years of reading
Normal test levels rise and fall through the day
High in the morning low in the evening
When on a long Ester or longer than prop ur levels are very high at the start and taper down through the week this causes a bunch of peaks and valleys this is why most guys pin a long Ester 2x a week to keep the highs and lows more level
I prefer a prop Ester on a eod pin
Normal Trt is 50 mg eod this will give ya the upper end of normal range !! Bout 900 ish
Now as for cycle good start is 100 eod to 150 eod only issue is if ur new to gear u will get a nice little bite at over 1 ml of prop the pip will be bad for some so bad hard to lift
So u have to ask urself this
Do u want to pin less and not hav much pip
Or do u want a nice smooth flow of test with virtually no peaks and valleys with ur hormones ?
The pip usually goes away after the Virgin muscles get used to the test
So it all is down to goals and preference
Prop is a better for less water retention and that dry lean look if ur already lean
The longer ones can have more water retention but ultimately it's how ur body reacts !! But most of the time a good Ai dose will keep things normal and less water
I have tried all the tests
Test cyp sucks for me gives me horrible acne
Test e is so so but I find my body just likes prop
All the way around it's the best test other than suspension but pip and pinning up to two times a day on suspension is not fun
So it comes down to what ur goals are and what ur willing to sacrifice and do
I think at 100-120 eod is good for first cycle
My Buddie is about ur stats and started his first cycle and results are great
If u wanna add more go up to 150
But honestly if ur diet and training is good first cycle 100 eod u will do fine on
Plus with prop ur gonna start to see results In 2 weeks 4 weeks it will be a game changer !!!
My Buddie is about ur stats and started his first cycle and results are great
If u wanna add more go up to 150
But honestly if ur diet and training is good first cycle 100 eod u will do fine on
Plus with prop ur gonna start to see results In 2 weeks 4 weeks it will be a game changer !!!
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