Recognizing fake Winny --vets and mods please!

[Dr. JK]

I tried the old search but could not find the right info

I know from past experience that "original" wiinny has a clear seperation between the crystals/powder and the solution.

My question is does all winny HAVE to seperate, i.e. the powder solution seperated on the bottom from the suspension/liquid or are there real wiinny's out there that don't sperate clearly?

In other words if there is not a clear speration the winny is 100% fake??

I know that in the past that was a clear case with UPJOHN Winny and some other ones but I wonder if the current winny synthesis has changed

I need to know because I might have screwed myself

I realy appreciate the help guys!!

 

[ricorico]

i may not be a mod, but as far as i know winstol is not water soluble, which is why it settles, its just suspended in the water. I wouldnt trust any water based winstrol that didnt settle. but im unsure as i havent seen every type of winstrol out there. if nothoinig else my reply will just bump your thread to the top. good luck

 

[Shinobi]

I tried the old search but could not find the right info

I know from past experience that "original" wiinny has a clear seperation between the crystals/powder and the solution.

My question is does all winny HAVE to seperate, i.e. the powder solution seperated on the bottom from the suspension/liquid or are there real wiinny's out there that don't sperate clearly?

In other words if there is not a clear speration the winny is 100% fake??

I know that in the past that was a clear case with UPJOHN Winny and some other ones but I wonder if the current winny synthesis has changed

I need to know because I might have screwed myself

I realy appreciate the help guys!!

First of all, which Winstrol do u have? Zambon?

 

[solidspine]

Usually it looks like milk

If it dries in the vial and you have water and paste, it is hard to mix them,

Lay the vial on its side, so the water is touching the paste, if it is going to reconstitute, it will in a couple of days.

Maybe you could bake them, I don’t know, I think they are shot when separated like that, don’t put them in the micro wave. 5 seconds and they explode.

 

[Dr. JK]

First of all, which Winstrol do u have? Zambon?

Stanobol 50 by Teragon labs Russia
20cc bottle
The solution is milky and it does not dry up, i.e. very litte powder on the bottom of the bottle after 12hrs of sitting

I know someone who is using it and says it's good (using a 23g)

 

[Shinobi]

Stanobol 50 by Teragon labs Russia
20cc bottle
The solution is milky and it does not dry up, i.e. very litte powder on the bottom of the bottle after 12hrs of sitting

I know someone who is using it and says it's good (using a 23g)

Not seeing its going to be hard to tell if its fake or not.
I saw a italian vet stanozolol(winstrol) that looked real but it was fake.
The real winstrol the powder has to dry on the bottom of the amp and u can see the separate water and by shaking it just a bit the powder mix EASILY with the water looking like milk...if it looks like milk but with some little white rocks its fake.

 

[georgie24]

it should like like white milk, give it a shake.


yummy

 

[georgie24]

also can you post a pic?

 

[Dr. JK]

Not seeing its going to be hard to tell if its fake or not.
I saw a italian vet stanozolol(winstrol) that looked real but it was fake.
The real winstrol the powder has to dry on the bottom of the amp and u can see the separate water and by shaking it just a bit the powder mix EASILY with the water looking like milk...if it looks like milk but with some little white rocks its fake.

There is little powder/residue on the bottom, no chunks or pieces sitting around. The residue is fine and comes of the glass when the bottle is moved around

In the ingrediant there is mention of a preservative in water called "thimerosal" aside from the benzyl alcohol. I did not see this preservative listed in the other winny's which seperate, so I am wondering if this preservative is keeping the powder together with the water/solution.

I have seen quite a few Finaplix brands with no powder on the bottom, i.e. no visible ground pellets. From what I have herd as the explanation is that it's microfiltered so the powder becomes part of the solution
Prime example Finaplix Gold by Valopharm, no powder just clear yellow oily solution.

Is it possible for winny powder to be microfiltered and binded to the suspension with a preservative?

 

[georgie24]

jesus where did you get this shit from?

back of MD magazine

 

[flexed1]

not all winny seperates. seperation does not always means its real as well. if you bought from a person you trust dont worry. if you did not then worry. what brand is it?

 

[Dr. JK]

not all winny seperates. seperation does not always means its real as well. if you bought from a person you trust dont worry. if you did not then worry. what brand is it?

Thanks for the reply. My source I trust, and he is currently using it.
I just wanted to know if it is possible that winny does not seperate.

In the books (Anabolic 2002/2006) they only mention particle seperation for Upjohn Winny but not as a way to identify fake winny.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

What brand do you have?

 

[Dr. JK]

What brand do you have?

Teragon labs from Russia (see my other post on it)

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Seen it.. Not all winny separates! Only true 100% to determine if its fake, send to SRCS for testing! Peace of mind..

 

[Dr. JK]

Seen it.. Not all winny separates! Only true 100% to determine if its fake, send to SRCS for testing! Peace of mind..

Have you seen the Teragon labs winny and what have you herd?
They got some legit products, I have Arimidex and Proviron from them

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Never heard of them.. Ret might know, he is from Russia!

 

[Dr. JK]

Seen it.. Not all winny separates! Only true 100% to determine if its fake, send to SRCS for testing! Peace of mind..

Seen what? the winny I am talking about or real winny which does not seperate?

 

[Dr. JK]

bump

 

[georgie24]

try it bro,

see what happends

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Seen what? the winny I am talking about or real winny which does not seperate?

Seen your other post on this winstrol.. sorry, should have clarified better!

 

[BigAndy69]

A true suspension should seperate (if it is made correctly)

Making suspension is hard so most labs make a solution. Winny is dissolved in PEG 400 usually and it will not seperate. Sometimes they add some surfactant like PS 20 or 80 to give it the impression that it seperates. The problem is mostly with sterility since filtering winny is a 2 to 3 step process. Oil products are just mixed and filtered so it's a lot less tricky.

It could very well meet label claims, but I wouldn't bother injecting it, just drink it.

 

[Dr. JK]

A true suspension should seperate (if it is made correctly)

Making suspension is hard so most labs make a solution. Winny is dissolved in PEG 400 usually and it will not seperate. Sometimes they add some surfactant like PS 20 or 80 to give it the impression that it seperates. The problem is mostly with sterility since filtering winny is a 2 to 3 step process. Oil products are just mixed and filtered so it's a lot less tricky.

It could very well meet label claims, but I wouldn't bother injecting it, just drink it.

I left it for 24hrs and noticed about 5% of solution visible at the top. This is similar to what ItalianMuscle was saying about his winny he just finished, i.e. 5% seperation and the rest milky