Becoming said:try this neighborhood...
looks nice to me...
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=32820&ll=28.566384,-81.124592&spn=0.011888,0.013947&t=k&hl=en
Y_lifter said:Here is the real issue with your plan..
People are selling their existing houses for a major profit from what
they have in it true enough..
But unfortunately they must pay more amd more for a new house because
housing prices are going thru the roof.. So they even out at best.
As to buying for investment, same problem.
You gotta pay so much for a house initially, that you can't hardly rent it out for
enough to make the mortgage payment let alone make money. Even POS handyman specials are way over priced..
But, they are still building like crazy, and people are still keep buying them.
AAP said:Start at Palm Beach and look north. That is where the best deals are. Anything south is already over saturated.
Also, consider the west coast. St Pete, Tampa and Ft Myers still have a lot of good deals.
AAP said:you should have gotten in like, 6 years ago.
right now, the market is red hot and overpriced. and it is not going to stop either. most people are sitting around predicting it will burst. that is not going to happen for two reasons. first, you have all these baby boomers retiring in the next ten years. where do you think they are going to move? second, the U.S. dollar is looking like it is only going to get weaker to the euro, which is why all the euroetirees are buying in down here now.
mr.cuts said:You are a moron. You are saying on one hand that it is too late to buy in, but on the other hand the market shows no signs of slowing down??? Please don't try to discuss economic trends, you have no clue what you are talking about.
MattTheSkywalker said:for the love of god do not buy here if you like money.
the bubble will burst hardest in Miami, and less so everywhere else too. All of the prices here except the very high end are interest rate driven. Baby boomers are going to places like Gulf Shores, AL and Panama City.
I bought my places almost 2 years ago and have seen some appreciation. I don't think there will be too much more. AAP and I may just agree to disagree on this.
pitbullstl said:Nope.
Look to the Southern Gulf Coast (Ft. Meyers, Naples Etc...) and undeveloped areas of Broward and Palm Beach Counties......Boca is booming right now.
I just bought one of these www.uptownmiami.com
Pre-Construction was $375,000 for a middle unit, top floor. Here's a prediction, not only will Aventura blow up in the next 5 years, this unit will more than likely double.
We will incorporate in Boca by next year.![]()
AAP said:Also, consider the west coast. St Pete, Tampa and Ft Myers still have a lot of good deals.
mr.cuts said:You are a moron. You are saying on one hand that it is too late to buy in, but on the other hand the market shows no signs of slowing down??? Please don't try to discuss economic trends, you have no clue what you are talking about.
AAP said:Since I own 4 pieces of property in south florida and you own ???? (thought so) I think I am very qualified to discuss economic trends.
You may want to work on your reading comprehension skills too. As I said, the market is booming, and yes, it is too late to buy in unless you want to overpay out of the ass just to get ahold of something worth only half of what you paid for it.
Notice the author of this thread stated he was buying some properties? You know, plural form. You can only live in one place at a time, so it goes without wasting a braincell to figure out that he is looking for investment purposes. In terms of investment purposes, it is hard for a piece of property to appreciate when everything in town is going up as well. You have something 5 years old and it costs the same as something brand new, what are you going to pick?
Purchasing property to live in long term is not the same as purchasing something to invest in and flip on the market soon. Doesn't work like that here.
Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
sawastea said:I'm going to start buying some properties in Florida. What are the hot zones? I saw some nice apt complexes/condo's being built on the beach in So Fla.

Dude I went to Coral Gables high school and Coral Gables is top notch neighborhood right now your looking prices out there for 3 to 5 mill. I moved out west to Kendall is an area in Miami about 12 years my parents bought our house for 90ks now is 360ks is insane personally you want something booming come here to South Florida Miami area. Now if you go to upper florida with 200 you can get a huge house thats my goal save some money and move out Miami is insane out heresawastea said:My folks are living in Coral Gables and the price of it has shot up dramatically. They also purchased a few other houses in CG and are renting it out. I want to get into it. I'm lkooking at buying an apt in NYC but am having second thoughts.
mr.cuts said:Listen, don't try to debate real estate with me. I make my living in real estate, thus I have much more knowledge in this area than you.You obviously have no concept of market value. By the way, I own several properties in Fairfield County, Connecticut.
mr.cuts said:Listen, don't try to debate real estate with me. I make my living in real estate, thus I have much more knowledge in this area than you.You obviously have no concept of market value. By the way, I own several properties in Fairfield County, Connecticut.
MattTheSkywalker said:sweet. You rent to Fairfield U kids? Or do you own some beachfront properties overlooking those lovely smokestacks in the Long Island sound?
Your extensive real experience probably taught you that real estate is fairly regional, thus what is happening in Fairfield County, CT, is not always indicative of what is happening in Florida.
Your extensive real estate background might have even told you that within Florida, different trends emerge in different areas. In fact, FL is one of the most diverse states around for RE investors.
I am sure you learned that while you were making a living in real estate.
Now learn this:
When someone asks for advice on this board, we don't flame them and we don't turn the thread into a pissing contest. Got it? Find a board targeting Fairfield County property owning assholes and you'll be in your element.
Have a nice night.
MattTheSkywalker said:sweet. You rent to Fairfield U kids? Or do you own some beachfront properties overlooking those lovely smokestacks in the Long Island sound?
Your extensive real experience probably taught you that real estate is fairly regional, thus what is happening in Fairfield County, CT, is not always indicative of what is happening in Florida.
Your extensive real estate background might have even told you that within Florida, different trends emerge in different areas. In fact, FL is one of the most diverse states around for RE investors.
I am sure you learned that while you were making a living in real estate.
Now learn this:
When someone asks for advice on this board, we don't flame them and we don't turn the thread into a pissing contest. Got it? Find a board targeting Fairfield County property owning assholes and you'll be in your element.
Have a nice night.
shut the fuck up.mr.cuts said:
FYI, I own three multi's in Greenwich that I rent out and I purchased a 2.5 million dollar house in Ridgefield last spring, which I currently reside in. By the way, I just turned 27. Have a nice night, skippy!
mr.cuts said:Listen Skippy, if i wanted to head down to the arm pit of the U.S. to make $$$ in real estate, trust me I could. Personally, I want to stay as far away from Florida as possible. Have fun in the redneck riviera.
mr.cuts said:Listen Skippy, if i wanted to head down to the arm pit of the U.S. to make $$$ in real estate, trust me I could. Personally, I want to stay as far away from Florida as possible. Have fun in the redneck riviera.
MattTheSkywalker said:Sweet...you're getting pissy. So cute. Does your mom know you're on the computer so late?
I have a place in Jax, and another 2 in West Palm Beach. redneck riviera? Kneegrow please.
But since you said that...Nothing - nothing....not even Manhattan, Miami or San Fran has yielded better returns than the "redneck riviera" the last 10 years. Nowhere are more condos being built - and sold. I wish I had bought a few units there.
I always find it amusing when people talk investing, but avoid opportunities to make "real $$$". What kind of investor wants that? lol @ "extensive experience".
Put your Dad on the computer and go to bed, Fairfield boy.
mr.cuts said:
LOL! Do I sense a bit of jealousy here?!?!!
MattTheSkywalker said:Nah, I know where I stand.
I've met many people off here...shown then my places in FL...$2.5M is a nice place, but I already have that and more. One of my lots before construction is $3M+. Like I said, people from this site have seen that one, and I have a place in NY too, along with 2 is South FL. And you or anyone is welcome to see any of them ANY TIME.
Are we all going to list our portfoilos now?
Anyone seen yours? I am in NY all the time. Can I stop by? You sound like an Internet bullshit artist. Whyare you so "successful" and yet so hostile? Why challenge everyone if you have all this experience to offer?
Probably because you're full of shit. Poser.
mr.cuts said:listen if you want to turn this into a pissing contest. The total appraised value of my real estate holding is over $7 million. What's up, Skippy!
MattTheSkywalker said:Nah, I know where I stand.
I've met many people off here...shown them my places in FL...$2.5M is a nice place, but I already have that and more. One of my lots before construction is $3M+. Like I said, people from this site have seen that one, and I have a place in NY too, along with 2 is South FL. And you or anyone is welcome to see any of them ANY TIME.
Are we all going to list our portfoilos now? I could give a fuck if you own a billion in property. I'm pissed off at your tired ass because ONLY you managed to be an asshole on this thread without offering anything.
Anyone seen yours? I am in NY all the time. Can I stop by? You sound like an Internet bullshit artist. Whyare you so "successful" and yet so hostile? Why challenge everyone if you have all this experience to offer?
Probably because you're full of shit. Poser.
mr.cuts said:
By the way, let me know when you are in NYC. You are more than welcome to stop by. I will be more than glad to show you my properties. Also, I will show you my dads estate in the backcounty of Greenwich. I think you will be more than impressed. Let me know.
MattTheSkywalker said:Nah, I know where I stand.
I've met many people off here...shown them my places in FL...$2.5M is a nice place, but I already have that and more. One of my lots before construction is $3M+. Like I said, people from this site have seen that one, and I have a place in NY too, along with 2 is South FL. And you or anyone is welcome to see any of them ANY TIME.
MattTheSkywalker said:Wow, Daddy's money, nice. That was Trump's technique too. I shouldn't knock it too hard, it's not your fault.
Are you a Fairfield grad?
mr.cuts said:
UConn!
total appraised value: $7 millionmr.cuts said:
listen, if you want to turn this into a pissing contest. The total appraised value of my real estate holdings is over $7 million. What's up, Skippy!?!
MattTheSkywalker said:You have a greater appetite for risk in FL properties than I do. I have three including a primary residence in Jax, and that is enough for me sir. I am actually thinking of selling one of the condos, but the developer is dragging ass getting it done...we will see.
I don't see how Miami won't plummet, many share my opinion, evidently you don't...all I can say is good luck.I hope the demand stays strong, but there are too many negative indicators for me to invest.
It's not my bag, baby....anymore.
sawastea, I don't know what you are referring to, I think investing in Miami is insanity, for pitbullstl's sake I hope I am wrong...but I am not putting a dollar into that.
AAP said:Fairfield County... about as far as you can get from Broward County. You best stick with your real estate business THERE and let us who know this area HERE talk about it. Capise.
MattTheSkywalker said:And clearly you were in a frat?

Phaded said:you all are like a bunch of big bullies picking on the little lost kid.. this thread got pathetic pretty quick..
mr.cuts said:By the way, I own several properties in Fairfield County, Connecticut.
Dieselgoku23 said:Dude I went to Coral Gables high school and Coral Gables is top notch neighborhood right now your looking prices out there for 3 to 5 mill. I moved out west to Kendall is an area in Miami about 12 years my parents bought our house for 90ks now is 360ks is insane personally you want something booming come here to South Florida Miami area. Now if you go to upper florida with 200 you can get a huge house thats my goal save some money and move out Miami is insane out here
WODIN said:LMAO at the pissing contest going in this thread.
Mrcuts, AAP and Matt...just pull your dicks out measure them and call it a game.
gjohnson5 said:You were lookin like a frat boy with 2 beers in ya hand at that EF meeting,![]()
pitbullstl said:I've made entirely way too much money in the last 4-5 years doing the same thing, as far as the bubble bursting in Miami, I wouldn't entirely disagree.....Aventura is far enough North to be safe IMO.....and everything else we do, is further North still, and heading West. If one of my brokers called me and said he had a hot property in SoBe, I wouldn't take that chance, even if it was commercial.
Let's take for example my last build, Toscana Towers in Highland Beach, pre-construction $670,000 5 years ago. Today units of less caliber are going for $1.2 to $1.4...and rising.
They're not all winners Matt, as I'm sure you know. But the market's still hot in my opinion, and as AAP has already mentioned, the EuroGeezers are already calling.
edit: Is it the CityPlace condo you are considering selling?? If so, let me know.![]()
MattTheSkywalker said:Everything there is overpriced. $1.4M for Toscana Towers is insanity...don't get me wrong, I am glad it's happening for you, but it's just_not_worth_that
pitbullstl said:I'm sure you of all people know this, but it's worth what the market dictates, and the trend for the past 3-4 years is upscale highrise beach living. The amount of "young" people I have for neighbors, boggles my mind.
If you think $1.4 is insane, I won't even tell you about the 5000 sq. ft penthouse that brought $5.2.
And.....by West, I'm referencing Naples and Ft. Meyers, still "Florida" enough for most, the European, South American Flavor had already laid it's roots.
]gjohnson5 said:I'm not too familiar with South Florida , but I've done some commercial fishin' in Pensacola been told that beachfront property even in there was 1 mil or more.
If mr cuts thinks south florida is full of rednecks , he outta travel to Florabama![]()
pitbullstl said:]
How ya been homey..?? Haven't seen ya around too much....
Mr. Cuts appears to be a douchebag.![]()
Y_lifter said:Florabama is also know as L.A.
Lower Alabama
Y_lifter said:Florabama is also know as L.A.
Lower Alabama
AAP said:when you go, turn your clocks back 40 years.
Sassy69 said:The 'rents have a place in Gulf Shores expected to be completed in a few months. $400K.
Palm Beach County's scorching housing market was tied with Sarasota for the second-hottest in the country during the first three months of the year, according to a National Association of Realtors study released Thursday.
The median price - half sell for more, half for less - of existing homes in Palm Beach County hit $363,600 in the first quarter of 2005, up 36 percent from the first quarter of 2004. That hefty increase trailed only Bradenton (up 46 percent) and equaled Sarasota (up 36 percent) in the national study of 130 cities nationwide.
The Treasure Coast also saw soaring prices and a falling number of sales, according to the state Realtors group. The median price in Martin and St. Lucie counties hit $230,100 in the first quarter, up 36 percent from a year ago.
The number of sales in the Treasure Coast fell 2 percent during the first three months of the year.
The statewide median home price rose 27 percent to $207,000 in the first quarter, while the national median price rose 9.7 percent to $188,800.
pitbullstl said:]
How ya been homey..?? Haven't seen ya around too much....
Mr. Cuts appears to be a douchebag.![]()
Razorguns said:Which are you guys doing?
1) Buying properties, renting them to tenants, waiting for appreciation, then selling?
2) Invest into new developments. Get in on a certain price. Wait til development is finished. Development gets sold on the live market at high prices. Pocket the difference.
?
Sassy69 said:matty - when's the Jax house warming party?
Sassy needs to head south young man. NEEDS to head south.
mr.cuts said:
What, no love from the used car salesman!!! Come on!
lol so many innuendos for only 2 sentencesSassy69 said:matty - when's the Jax house warming party?
Sassy needs to head south young man. NEEDS to head south.
Sassy69 said:Summer rental.
Good movie!
Matty help me! I"m babbling!
Sassy69 said:Summer rental.
Good movie!
Matty help me! I"m babbling!
I live in Port St Lucie FL, the fastest growing area in the nation, lived here since 7/2003. Owned 1 house while the new one was being built. First house owned 8 months purchased 7-2003, sold and made $47,000 which was ironically the deposit we made when we took out construction loan to build the house we now live in. 3/2 2860sq under air, 2car garage, screened area huge with 15 x 28 pool and hot tub, paid $178, then, just refinanced, worth $335,000!!!! Land was $28,000 and the two lots on either side of me are going for $69k today!!! I was fortunate to not have any hurricane damage, I was the only one on the street. The whole entire area including kids school was ruined, beaches are being rebuilt, many blue roofs still to this day as Hurricane Season approaches again. Treasure Coast is very expensive and I came from NH, taxes are high, schools suck!!! Lots of snow birds. Growing too quick. Pay rate is approx $7 an hour/hubby trucker for 27 years makes $11 an hour, what an insult after making $30 an hour up north. This is the prices you pay for sunshine. Fort Pierce is slummy. Jensen Beach is nice, Stuart too. But jobs, the pay sucks in this area. Just wanted to give u some knowledge I wish someone gave me before I left snowy NH!Sassy69 said:Actually their place is like 5 miles from landfall, but it was only the building shell. No damage and looks like it didnt' delay the building schedule at all. However the surrounding area had trouble - lots of places had no utilities, etc. I'm sure its goign to take some time for the community to spring back to life. Hopefully the current El Nino cycle will pass w/o too much destruction.... Its the storm insurance that is so brutal.
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