Rate this cycle....

[dbigpappa]

Eq. 400 mg a week for 15 weeks
@ week 5 + 300 mg a week winstrol depot for 10 ws
@ week 5 + 600 mg primo aweek for 10 ws
@ week 8 t-bol not sure dosage yet for 4 weeks

what do you think?

 

[krishna]

Sounds like a good lean gainer. What about a kicker though at the beginning. Maybe some test or dbol. Couldn't you even run the tbol the first 8 weeks, and polish it off with the rest? The way you're doing it, you probably won't get much the first 5 weeks until the EQ kicks in, at which point the rest of your gear will be added. Sounds like an awesome last 10 weeks though. Maybe that's what you're going for.

 

[Bruce]

tbol weeks 1-4. the rest looks great to me. have fun

 

[chefbone]

Jumpstart with the tbol for 4 weeks. Then the last 4 weeks do the tbol again.
My bro says he doesn't get much from tbol after 5 weeks. Otherwise, that cycle looks tight. What is the diet looking like????

 

[Tux]

I agree, kick-start it with tbol. That way, you'll get results the first 4 weeks while waiting for the EQ to kick in, and you also won't be running two 17aa's at the same time. 40mg/day of tbol would probably be plenty for you. Looks nice otherwise, wish I could afford to try primo

 

[boskers22]

ide only make 2 changes, 1st is tha tbol at tha begining for 4 or 5 weeks, and tha 2nd would be to put winny at week 7-17 that way the eq n winny will both b out of ur system at the same time to start pct. 1 question i hav though is would 10 weeks of winny b hard on the liver?

 

[Bruce]

in my pre EF days i thought winstrol was harmless. i took it for 6 months straight. i didn't know how to eat back then so it really was quite a waste, but my liver actually was fine. i don't care if no one believes me but the reason i did that was because my friend did winny depot for 2 years straight and just kept everything he's 205 5% bf all year long. and he benches 4 plates on each side. so i listened to him. when i came here i realized i was lucky i didn't have hepatitis with all the winny i took. oh yea and his liver was fine, just low blood platelettes

 

[dbigpappa]

havent ever had abs maybe when i was a little kid? can this cycle do it for me 1st cycle?

 

[chefbone]

Post up for non-plats bro. Have you had your bf% tested lately. For a cycle you are about to do, IMO.....drop to 10-12%. Even more if you can hold on to the gear for that long before giving into the darkside!!!!lol
Good Luck
p.s. What's the diet like?

 

[pentatonic]

havent ever had abs maybe when i was a little kid? can this cycle do it for me 1st cycle?

I don't think the advice in the posts above was meant for a first cycle, I don't want to speak for those guys but I really think their opinion would change knowing this is your first cycle.

 

[Bruce]

yes u really need to cut down a bit, and that is your first cycle, that is way too many compounds.

 

[krishna]

Ya I take back what I said earlier. No cycle is gonna "do it for you". Steroids aren't a magic body transformer. They are an aid to help you once you've reached your peak performance naturally. They help you get over that plateau. IMO you haven't made it there yet.

 

[chefbone]

First cycle!!! Sorry dude, that changes everything. What are your stats?
Damn, I wouldn't touch any of those except for the tbol first cycle. Even that is pushing the envelope IMO..

 

[pentatonic]

I think you should get your diet in check 1st, then look at your training program, you really should get these in check before you jump into gear. I think you've got alot you could do naturally before you stepped into gear.

 

[Maxx Out]

I think you should get your diet in check 1st, then look at your training program, you really should get these in check before you jump into gear. I think you've got alot you could do naturally before you stepped into gear.

Beat me to the punch bro, good response!

 

[Muscle Mafia]

I think you should get your diet in check 1st, then look at your training program, you really should get these in check before you jump into gear. I think you've got alot you could do naturally before you stepped into gear.

Exactlty! Dont start using any gear until you've hit a plateu in the gym. Get as far as you can natty. Then run a cycle. Something simple like test only, or test with one other compound.

 

[slat1]

For a first cycle I would run test enanthate at 250mgs a week for ten weeks. I would use hcg/clomid for pct.
That is more than enough for a first cycle... Remember. You want to see how your body reacts to one compound. You want to start off easy. You can always increase the doseage later on another cycle. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Tux]

Whoa, yeah, for a first cycle that's way too much. That would make a nice 4th or 5th cycle, but not a first. Stick with one or two compounds for the first cycle. Straight test at 250-500/week would be plenty for a bulker, or test/dbol would also be good. Hell, even a winny-only or tbol-only cycle would be good for a cutter, but I suggest heeding the bro's advice here, get diet in check first before you consider gear to get a six-pack.

 

[Outtlaw]

Eq. 400 mg a week for 15 weeks
@ week 5 + 300 mg a week winstrol depot for 10 ws
@ week 5 + 600 mg primo aweek for 10 ws
@ week 8 t-bol not sure dosage yet for 4 weeks

what do you think?

You dont need all that. Especially for a 1st cycle. You could get by on just the eq or primo alone. You shouldnt have to run 4 different compounds all at once.