Radically changing my current cycle...good advice needed

[Nighthawkk]

Ok, here's the deal...This is my current cycle:

Week 1-8 Fina 75mg ED
Week 4-8 Winny 50mg ED

I am a week in and I have decided if I'm going to do something, I will do it right. Hence, I would like to make this a more potent cycle, as I have realized my current cycle is not really suitable to acheive my goals. I am thinking of running the following:

Week 1-6 Dbol 30mg ED
Week 1-8 Test (Enanth or Cyp) 500mg
Week 1-8 EQ 200mg or Deca 400mg
Week 9-12 Tren 75mg ED
Week 9-12 Winny 50mg ED
Week 12-15 Clen/T-rex 2 day rotations

-Nolv 20mg ED throughout, .5mg A-dex EOD, HCG week 10-12
Post-cycle: Clomid/Nolv/Trib

Any advice or constructive criticism would be MUCH appreciated. This will be my 4th cycle, but the biggest thus far. My stats are:

5'9", 202lbs, 11% bf, training 7+ years

Karma for good help, thanks!

-Hawk

 

[Nighthawkk]

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[lenbo]

I would just add prop to the cycle your on .You'll put on some serious lean mass with a good diet. The deca or eq need to be ran for 10 weeks or longer . As far as the t-rex, clen rotation that should be 2 weeks not 2 days. With the tren, prop and winny you'll have a "Right" cycle . BTW I don't run any anti-e's unless I start showing signs , just post cycle therapy.Some belive it inhibits growth .

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Hmmmm... to be honest with you, I would start the tren much ealier in the cycle. Its a very potent drug, and I think it would add to the gains from your dbol in the early weeks of the cycle. I would definately use the eq over the deca, especially if incorporating tren into the stack.

If you are using d-bol rather than frontloading, I will run it for only 3 weeks, since you are starting winstrol on week 9. The way you are doing this, you are runnning the dbol a full 6 weeks, at which point your liver enzymes will probably be somewhat elevated. You are only giving your liver 3 weeks to recover before starting the winstrol, which may not giving your liver a long enough break. This is not only an issue of safety, but of gains as well. Your liver will still be efficient at breaking down 17-aa steroids, and it may reduce the igf-1 production during the first couple of weeks on the winstrol. Perhaps I'm wrong on this, vets?

While the nolva may be great for preventing gyno and your blood lipid profiles, are you sure you wish to use 20 mg a day throughout? It will lower igf-1 production, and limit gains from this cycle. The arimidex should be enough, since your doses are not that high, and if you have problems you can always add the nolva in, and if early in the cycle, cut the dbol out, to limit your curculating estragen levels. Just my 2 cc's, I'm sure others will have alot to say.

 

[tapoutm]

I am a week in and I have decided if I'm going to do something, I will do it right. Hence, I would like to make this a more potent cycle, as I have realized my current cycle is not really suitable toacheive my goals. . I am thinking of running the following:

-Hawk

Ok so what kind of goals are you trying to reach, just Size, Strenght, or a certain LOOK?

 

[Nighthawkk]

Re: Re: Radically changing my current cycle...good advice needed

Ok so what kind of goals are you trying to reach, just Size, Strenght, or a certain LOOK?

Well originally I wanted to just lean up a bit with the tren and winny I have, but I've decided to go for pure mass now. So the ultimate goal would be mass gain with minimal fat (meaning eating cleaner than usual). Any more advice guys?

 

[Nighthawkk]

BBF, you said start the tren earlier...which week should I add it? thanks

 

[tapoutm]

The only thing I would do is up the EQ to 400 and forget about the Deca I hate that sh!t. But it does work good for some people.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Deca works well for me, but I have yet to try EQ. I suppose 400mg EW would work nicely as well. Does anyone else have any info on choosing either Cyp or Enanth...I haven't decided which to use yet, as I've only used Sust and prop before.

 

[Nighthawkk]

any more opinions?

 

[Nighthawkk]

I was also considering this as option #2:

Week 1-6 Dbol 30 mg ED
Week 1-10 Testoviron 500mg
Week 1-8 Tren 75mg ED

How would this work as a bulker? I already have the dbols and tren, so it would make it far easier for me to do this one as I would only have to get some enanth. Karma for advice, thanks

 

[Dutch windmill]

Personally you have a solid cycle now, but if you add 100 mg prop ed or eod. it will be magnificent!

D.W.

 

[Mini Viper]

as posted by Nighthawkk

BBF, you said start the tren earlier...which week should I add it? thanks

otherwords, wks1-8 or wks 1-10 tren 75mg/EOD, I think any longer use of tren after this point is overkill.

I'm doing something similar and looks like this:

wks 1-4 drol 50mg/ED
wks 1-8 tren 75mg/EOD
wks 1-10 sus 500mg/week

good luck bro

 

[Nighthawkk]

I know the prop would work great, but I am looking for a much longer cycle. If I ran the tren/winny/prop I would probably use it whilst cutting. Right now I just want pure BULK...hence the Enan and Dbols being part of either stack. Plus I think the tren I have would work verrrry nicely in a bulk stack since I am about 13 days in and seeing wonderful lean mass and vascularity on a high protein/moderate cal diet.

 

[Mini Viper]

Nighthawkk-

am abit busy at the moment but will send you pm later on my cycle progress, I'm also looking for pure mass and solidarity also.

peace

 

[Nighthawkk]

Ok cool, no rush bro