Racial Profiling... Good One!!

[Warik]

Re: Re: Racial Profiling... Good One!!

So what are you suggesting? that we only single out young muslims at airports? Not only would that be unconstitutional, it would be humiliating and would foster more ill feelings towards Muslim-Americans.

Believe it or not, but I agree here. There are millions of Muslims (yes, Muslims, not "Muslim-Americans") in the world, yet a small fraction are involved in these terrorist activities.

Now, don't count your chickens before they hatch, Ryan, I am in no way completely discrediting what dballer said. He is correct about one important thing - why are high school drop-out airline security screeners performing "random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, Secret Service agents who are members of the President's security detail and 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips" while letting turban-clad, long-bearded Arab men waltz through undisturbed?

The problem here is NOT that Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 are being racially profiled - the problem is that they are being IGNORED in order to avoid claims of racial profiling. We have airport "security" screeners searching old ladies and fondling attractive young women "by accident" while Osama bin Laden himself could probably walk through a security checkpoint wearing one of those plastic glasses/rubber nose & moustache disguises and no one would be the wiser.

My solution? Screeners should be able to search EVERYONE who walks through an airport security checkpoint; however, they should not be able to search anyone without probable cause.

What is probable cause?

* Person has a huge carry-on bag.
* Person wearing very baggy clothes that could conceal a weapon.
* Person sets off a metal detector.
* Person acting unusually (looking at screeners a lot... hands shaking... nervous, etc)
* Person with 3 ft beard walking around in typical Muslim attire chanting praises to Allah.

I believe in equality, but I heartily oppose stupidity.

-Warik

 

[the nature boy]

It's not a big deal to use profiling. If you have nothing to hide then there's no problem. Plus getting searched isn't humiliating, it's an inconvience, but it's not humiliating. And the middle eastern folks I know that fly don't really give a shit.

Racial profiling exists. Either at an official level or subconsious level.

 

[GLADIATOR351]

IMO, profiling is in order for this situation.


If a 5'5" white guy robbed a bank.... would you fill the line up room w/ 6'4" black guys? NO!!. You would look for guys fitting that profile. So, if 8 out of 10 times a plane has been hijacked or blown up by a muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40, why would you not try to single them out...

If I were someone that fit the "Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40", and I were searched it would be ok w/ me, I would also understand and hope they checked every other person that fit that profile. Why? Becayse it would be keeping me a little safer also....

 

[dballer]

IMO, profiling is in order for this situation.


If a 5'5" white guy robbed a bank.... would you fill the line up room w/ 6'4" black guys? NO!!. You would look for guys fitting that profile. So, if 8 out of 10 times a plane has been hijacked or blown up by a muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40, why would you not try to single them out...

If I were someone that fit the "Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40", and I were searched it would be ok w/ me, I would also understand and hope they checked every other person that fit that profile. Why? Becayse it would be keeping me a little safer also....

NOT ONLY DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!!!!! IT IS RACIST!!!!!!!

 

[polarpixie]

Re: Re: Re: Racial Profiling... Good One!!

The problem here is NOT that Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 are being racially profiled - the problem is that they are being IGNORED in order to avoid claims of racial profiling. We have airport "security" screeners searching old ladies and fondling attractive young women "by accident" while Osama bin Laden himself could probably walk through a security checkpoint wearing one of those plastic glasses/rubber nose & moustache disguises and no one would be the wiser.

Exactly. What they are doing is wasting their time searching little old ladies in a cover up attempt to AVOID getting ACCUSED of using racial profiling and being prejudiced against certain groups of people. As I think someone else pointed out, the term Racial Profiling may be somewhat misleading. Hell no, they should not be pulling out each and every Muslim men between the ages of 17-40 aside! Racial profiling also includes gender profiling, psychological profiling, and other factors that should tip off airline workers as to whether or not someone should be watched and searched or not.


BTW, the police use racial profiling....controversial to a degree? Yes, because there will always be those people who will be tempted to abuse their power of authority, but racial profiling has done more good than bad, you just hear more stories about the bad cases where things went wrong.

 

[Mysterio]

I think it is useful, but if someone stops me in my car one more time or let all the white poeple pass by at events so they can search check me...........Now I'm really PISSED!!!!!!!

 

[GLADIATOR351]

NOT ONLY DOES THIS MAKE SENSE!!!!! IT IS RACIST!!!!!!!

I know it makes sense.. as for racist, I probably should not have sterotyped the white guy like that, as 5'5" is not avaerage height... lol hahahahaha

 

[dballer]

BINGDANG

 

[RyanH]

Re: Re: Re: Racial Profiling... Good One!!

* Person acting unusually (looking at screeners a lot... hands shaking... nervous, etc)

that would be half the population. Are you forgetting the daily stresses of our time? Thus, nervousness would not indicate probably cause, instead nervousness would only reflect an ordinary daily occurrence found to exist in many of us

Back to the drawing board, Warik....

Ryan.

 

[starfish]

Look at Oklahoma City... those same people could have easily targeted a plane.. 9-11 probably gave all kinds of extremists ideas. Just searching Muslims, naive