Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

RACIAL Confrontation in Circuit City

  • Thread starter Thread starter RyanH
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
R

RyanH

Guest
I was in Circuit City today, with my best friend, who happens to be black. One of the sales guys kept watching my friend, while he wasn't watching me nor any of the other white customers.

So I went up to the salesguy and asked him, "Why the hell do you keep watching my black friend over there? Is it because he's black?" The guy responds, "I don't know what you are talking about." I said, "Why aren't you watching the Country Club bitch over there, for all you know, she could have a couple of CD's in her handbag...." He still denied, denied, denied.....

Blacks live in a world most of us don't have to live in....A World of oppression and racial strife.....

I'm now thinking about changing my choice in law to Civil Rights Law....there's way too much injustice in this IGNORANT world....
 
I used to work for a chain in retail electronics years ago. It is true they profile customers and watch those that fit that profile. Blacks are profiled as well. I understand your anger, that would piss me off too.
 
I can't even begin to imagine what it must feel like to walk into a store, any store, and be watched as if you are a criminal because of the color of your skin.

And what's more troublesome is that many whites are scum of the earth, and yet our bad deeds go largely unnoticed.....
 
We certainly know the police departments use racial profiling.....But how do we solve the problem? Would national legislation be the answer? It seems so, but how do you enforce it in private companies. Companies will deny they use racial profiling, but still maybe national legislation might reduce profiling substantially...
 
superdave said:
your going to give yourself an ulcer with this race stuff ryan.

I think all of us should be having ulcers over "this race stuff." You haven't lived the hell many blacks have had to live.......

America is still way too passive on issues of race.......Things aren't "O.K." In some ways, race relations are worse than they were back in the 60's. In the 60's blacks at least knew where they stood with people, now much racial bias is masked, covert.
Sometimes the overt is more appealing than the overt...
 
With interracial mating on a sharp increase, I would venture to say that sometime in the relatively near future, whites are gonna be a minority. Then "racial profiling" may stop, or turn against whites.

I'm also a high school dropout, so I'm probably wrong.
 
Dude...Get the chip off your shoulder..I am white and sometimes i feel like im being watched by store clerks.so fuckin what....It must be because im white???We have come a long way the past 10 years and if we can live and let live we will be ok.But your never gonna get a perfect world bro...
 
Crazy1: Your argument makes little sense because how do you compile the statistics that blacks are stealing more than white......Do you honestly think whites will admit when they shoplifted, and if your stats show that blacks have shoplifted more its because you haven't obtained accurate statistics on whites ----because you haven't been looking out for them.....

YOu offer a circular argument....
 
Satanic Goatslayer said:
Mr.T is black.

I pity da fool who calls Mr. T black!

And RyanH, don't take it all too seriously. I doubt shouting at a store clerk is going to change the world, or change his mind, some people are just set like that. Maybe he was admiring your friend... or he was gay? Who knows, but you definitely didn't help the situation any.
 
LOL. I was using the typical liberal argument against them. i.e. you cant legislate morality to people who support abortion.
 
superdave said:
I thought you couldnt legislate morality?

This isn't about morality....this is an issue about humanity...what it means to be human...
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
And why would a black guy care if he was being watched, if he didn't plan on stealing anything anyway?

This comment is so ignorant...I'm hesitant to respond to it, but ignorance must always be put down in its appropriate place....So I indulge.......It's laughable that you wouldn't mind be stared upon, eyes gleaming, being watched as you search a store for even basic necessities....If you had to endure this kind of treatment day after day, your reaction would be different.

But as usual, you haven't walked those shoes. You haven't been treated lesser than other humans. Aren't we all entitled to be treated fair, to be treated equally at a minimum? Why does this notion frighten you? Is it because you like looking down on others from a white power persective?....You aren't speaking from experience but your usual extremist, radical right-wing uninformed perspective.

All the World is a Stage.....Your comment is masked with racisim.......
 
BigPhysicsBastard: You are right in that many other countries discriminate. For instance, Bristish Society is very white with the few Asians there being ostracized. But, we are America....we weren't founded upon a monarchy or a system of classes....

Indeed, here, all men are supposed to be created equal...If we cannot hold true to this principle....then America and what it stands for means nothing........The Statute of Liberty is there for a reason....as a symbol of the principle that we are to be free from the historical evil roots of inferiority...
 
RyanH said:
about changing my choice in law to Civil Rights Law....there's way too much injustice in this IGNORANT world.... [/B]




I agree. Injustice like NAACP is "acceptable" but you're called a "nazi" if you wanted NAAWP.

Injustice like Marxism social programmes which steal from hard working tax payers to fund black criminals who breed illegimate little crooks
 
DaWickedMoor said:

Injustice like Marxism social programmes which steal from hard working tax payers to fund black criminals who breed illegimate little crooks

Your attitude is precisely the problem....
 
all of us should be having ulcers over "this race stuff." You haven't lived the hell many blacks have had to live.......>


Bullshit. I'm a Jew. Those cry babies think 500 years is bad? Try 5000, baby. The diffrence is we get on with life and dont bitch and expect hand outs. Oh, and how come Arab and Vietnemase come over here and in 2 or 3 generations they are affulent, but blacks are still poor after 20 or 30 generations?
 
DaWickedMoor said:
all of us should be having ulcers over "this race stuff." You haven't lived the hell many blacks have had to live.......>


Bullshit. I'm a Jew. Those cry babies think 500 years is bad? Try 5000, baby. The diffrence is we get on with life and dont bitch and expect hand outs. Oh, and how come Arab and Vietnemase come over here and in 2 or 3 generations they are affulent, but blacks are still poor after 20 or 30 generations?


First---not all blacks are poor...you made that generalization, I didn't.
Second---Blacks have been particularly oppressed in this country.....It bothers me when someone from a historically disadvantaged group, like yourself, is unsympathetic to those who share the same boat....

You, being Jewish, should no what its like to be treated unfairly and "unAmericanly"....
 
DUDE, THIS ISSUE IS SOOOOOOOOO DEAD!!! I DONT THINK THE BLACK FOLKS NEED YOU TO TAKE UP FOR THEM. THEY CAN DO IT THEMSELVES. BTW---MOST OF MY FRIENDS ARE BLACK SO DONT TELL ME I DONT KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
 
KAYNE said:
DUDE, THIS ISSUE IS SOOOOOOOOO DEAD!!!

THIS ISSUE IS ALIVE, and it won't go away. Deal with it. You are going to hear injustices like this for the rest of your life....me, the media, other Americans, both black and white....will never shut up.....not until blacks and whites are treated equally..........WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE TO REMIND YOU....of how racist and insecure many of you are....
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
since you have the inside track to black folks ryan, why don't you tell them to deal with their problems from the inside out. They have to fix their own culture before they get viewed upon equally with everyone else. There are no handouts, if you're fucked up you're fucked up, gotta take care of business before you can expect people to recognize you.

Tell that to blacks who are unable to get job promotions because they are black....although they work harder than many whites.....tell that to black voters who are disenfranchised because of white cops keeping them from the polls.....tell that to blacks beaten down and shot by white rogue cops.....

The problem lies on the outside.....
 
While 100 rapes were committed by whites against blacks in 1991, 20,204 rapes were committed by blacks against whites. If we factor in that whites heavily outnumber blacks in the population, we find that the chance of a black raping a white is 1,500 times as great as the chance that the opposite will occur!
 
Ryan listens to alot of rap and feels their pain.

Tell that to blacks who are unable to get job promotions because they are black

what about the blacks who get promotions becuase they are black? That happens more often. And have you ever considered that they might not be the best educated, lack vocational skills.
It is the blacks telling you that they were equally qualified, when I am sure that in some cases they are, in most cases I think that they are not. But who am I to judge becuase i dont promote anyone.
 
Last edited:
Champ said:

It is the blacks telling you that they were equally qualified, when I am sure that in some cases they are, in most cases I think that they are not.

ANOTHER RACIST STATEMENT!!! Why do you assume that in "most cases" blacks aren't as qualified?
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
I'm so sure that nationwide, on election day, there was this conspiracy by all police departments to keep blacks from the polls.........are you hearing yourself? You discredit yourself making those kinds of "dramatic" anacdotes. And if you want to talk about cops shooting blacks, let's talk about cincinnatti where since 1995 15 black men have died by being shot by police. Of those 15, 14 were in the process of shooting at police officers or shooting other people.

There was a conspiracy in Florida to keep voters from the polls....Why didn't Secretary of State Katherine Harris and Governor Bush spend money on voter education...why were most of the antiquated voting machinery in black voting districts? Why did many blacks report meeting roadblocks, keeping them from the polls....

As for police brutality, have you forgotten about the Diablo shootings in New York, the guy was shot over 40 times. That was really necessary wasn't it?

Or what about the black guy who had a plunger shoved up his ass by some rogue, punk New York cop who didn't have the balls to act like a real man?
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
There should be no affirmative action, people who review applications should not know the color of the applicant, EVERYTHING should be based on your qualifications to handle the job.

This argument makes a helluva alot of sense. Beat blacks down in the streets, enslave them, deny them civil rights, and release them on a white job market, and say "SINK OR SWIM PAL...WE MAY HAVE TREATED YOU LIKE SHIT FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS....BUT MAKE IT OWN YOUR OWN....."
 
Just out of curiousity, how was your friend dressed and groomed? Would a store manager waste his time keeping a close eye on a well-dressed black man with a nice haircut? I doubt it - I sure wouldn't.

If I were a store manager, I would be keeping a close eye on anybody walking around in my store wearing FUBU crap or stuff Nike checks all over the place. What the hell, people aren't allowed to keep an eye on people in their stores anymore?

I walked into one of the more expensive parts of Burdines one day wearing a pair of jeans and a sleeveless shirt. The black guy handling the area didn't take his eyes off me. He must be racist, right? Duh, I'm a college student with jeans and a sleeveless shirt walking around in 3-digit land. What's he supposed to do? Put on a blindfold and tell me to ask if I need anything?

Blacks commit significantly more crimes than whites - PERCENTAGE-WISE. YOU CAN'T EXPECT A PERSON IN A PLACE OF BUSINESS TO STAND AROUND AND HOPE HE CAN TRUST EVERYONE WHO WALKS INTO THE STORE!!! Jeez. You're being ignorant.

BTW, do you happen to have a physical description of the men who attacked and robbed your friend? Thx.

Disclaimer: I am not a racist.

-Warik
 
RyanH said:


THIS ISSUE IS ALIVE, and it won't go away. Deal with it. You are going to hear injustices like this for the rest of your life....me, the media, other Americans, both black and white....will never shut up.....not until blacks and whites are treated equally..........WE WILL ALWAYS BE THERE TO REMIND YOU....of how racist and insecure many of you are....

I'M NOT INSECURE AND NEITHER ARE THE BLACKS I HANG AROUND. THEY KNOW THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE TRASH WHO DISCRIMATE AGAINST THEM. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CAUSE MORE TROUBLE AND ADD TO THE STEREOTYPE BY DOING STUPID SHIT. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE IS DEAD ON THIS BOARD MAN, NOONE WANTS TO ARGUE ABOUT THIS SHIT ANYMORE ON HERE. IT IS OLD AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO BRINGS IT UP ALL THE FUCKING TIME. GIVE IT A BREAK.
 
There was a conspiracy in Florida to keep voters from the polls....Why didn't Secretary of State Katherine Harris and Governor Bush spend money on voter education...why were most of the antiquated voting machinery in black voting districts? Why did many blacks report meeting roadblocks, keeping them from the polls....



Where is the proof of any of this and why didn't the media jump on it?
 
RyanH said:
There was a conspiracy in Florida to keep voters from the polls....

Please explain why NOT A SINGLE VOTER, BLACK OR OTHERWISE, came forth and swore under oath that he or she was denied the right to vote in Florida?

NOT ONE.

Pardon my presumptuousness, but could the reason for that perhaps be the fact that NO VOTERS WERE VICTIMS OF ANY CONSPIRACY?

Ezly done. Next liberal propoganda, please?

-Warik
 
Warik said:
Just out of curiousity, how was your friend dressed and groomed?

BTW, do you happen to have a physical description of the men who attacked and robbed your friend? Thx.
-Warik

My friend had baggy jeans on, but so what? Country Club Betty had a huge handbag? The type of clothing one wears tells you nothing about a person...Looks are very deceiving.......So your argument is senseless....

The issue of my friend being attacked and robbed by black men has nothing to do with this issue, Warick....you are offpoint.....
 
RYAN H

WHY DONT YOU GO IN A TANNING BED FOR A FEW DAYS AND TRY TOGET BLACK? AFTER THAT YOU CAN SUCK A BLACK DUDES DICK AND INGEST HIS PROTEIN. I HAVE A FRIEND AT MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW, HE IS HALF BLACK AND HALF SPANISH, AND EVEN HE SAYS YOU ARE ON THE DICK OF THE BLACK MAN. HE WANTS YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND IS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE A SISTER WHO LOVES BLACKS SO MUCH ALSO.

THATS NO JOKE EITHER, HE WILL BE HERE FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES!!!
 
Warik said:


Please explain why NOT A SINGLE VOTER, BLACK OR OTHERWISE, came forth and swore under oath that he or she was denied the right to vote in Florida.

-Warik

Because the methods used were INSIPID, and very difficult to prove. Tell me why minority voting districts had shitty voting equipment? Tell me why Governor Bush and Katherine Harris refused to offer voter education? Because they wanted to make it as hard as possible for minorities to be able to vote. They knew they couldn't win the election fair and square.....
 
KAYNE: I will no longer respond to your posts....you've proven your vast ignorance......not because of your views but because of the way you present them...

You deserve an honorary degree in "how to be inept."
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
Ryan, I'll fully admit that there are cases where police officers behaved like criminals themselves. I'm still not certain what happened in the Diallo case, it does seem suspicious...

As for affirmative action...........we haven't enslaved blacks in 200 years, nobody beats them down in the street, in fact, it's quite the opposite and YOU KNOW IT!!! So I see no reason in coddling them any longer. They have EVERY advantage in the world now, and if they don't take advantage of it, that's their problem.

Blacks were beaten down in the streets just thirty years ago.

I'm sure that Diallo deserved to be shot 43 times....Come on, where is your common sense on this issue.......
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
please post proof of these stories you tell that your beloved liberal media would have jumped all over had they heard it.



The secret is out. Jews and other Whites are all against the black men. Oh yeah, Beethoven was black, so was Moses, Jesus, Einstein and Arnold.

They Jewish-White media just paints them peach to keep the black men down.
 
RYANH

THAT WAS THE POINT (FOR YOU TO STOP RESPONDING). THIS SHIT IS OLD. AND MY FRIEND REALLY IS HERE AND IS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE A SISTER!!!
 
RyanH said:
Because the methods used were INSIPID, and very difficult to prove.

Irrelevant. No one stepped forward. If they had indeed been "violated," they would have pointed that out.

RyanH said:
Tell me why minority voting districts had shitty voting equipment?

Tell me why the Democrats in charge of those districts didn't do anything about it.

RyanH said:
Tell me why Governor Bush and Katherine Harris refused to offer voter education?

They did. It's called: "read the fucking instructions."

RyanH said:
Because they wanted to make it as hard as possible for minorities to be able to vote.

Let's completely ignore the fact that Bush and Harris had nothing to do with the voting process.

RyanH said:
They knew they couldn't win the election fair and square.....

I assume giving cigarettes to the homeless and giving rides to convicted felons is fair and square, then?

RyanH said:
My friend had baggy jeans on, but so what? Country Club Betty had a huge handbag? The type of clothing one wears tells you nothing about a person...

Odd that you're older and are so uneducated in things like this. I take it if you ever become a judge, you'll have no problems with lawyers practicing in your courtroom in baggy jeans? A man's clothes can tell a great deal about him. You'll learn that eventually.

RyanH said:
Looks are very deceiving.......So your argument is senseless....

Are you then saying that whites are more likely to shoplift than blacks, and thus, the sales person was being racist by keeping an eye on your friend when in fact he should have been keeping his eye on the nasty white people?

I'm not saying that your friend and/or any black/minority is a criminal. I'm saying that just like that sales person can't conclude that your friend is a potential shoplifter just because he's black, YOU can't conclude that he was being racially prejudiced by watching your friend.

Let's see you weasel your way out of that one.

-Warik
 
Warik said:

Tell me why the Democrats in charge of those districts didn't do anything about it.

Let's completely ignore the fact that Bush and Harris had nothing to do with the voting process.

Odd that you're older and are so uneducated in things like this. I take it if you ever become a judge, you'll have no problems with lawyers practicing in your courtroom in baggy jeans? A man's clothes can tell a great deal about him. You'll learn that eventually.

You are dead wrong, the Secretary of State's office oversees the election process. She could have set aside funds for voter education but did not. You cannot leave it to the political parties to offer voter education....Government too, has a role...

Clothing: Of course, a dress code can be important. But, that doesn't mean you can judge a person based on what he or she is wearing. Look at the most notorious serial killers, they were well-dressed white men...

Nice Try, Warik!
 
RyanH said:
You are dead wrong, the Secretary of State's office oversees the election process. She could have set aside funds for voter education but did not. You cannot leave it to the political parties to offer voter education....Government too, has a role...

No, I'm not dead wrong. Harris didn't pick the voting machines or the damn ballots. You can't call this some evil Republican conspiracy.

What the hell is "voter education" anyway? Is this some 6-week course the Democrats are preparing to teach people in Palm Beach how to push a stylus through a hole (after reading the name adjacent to the hole, of course... they have certainly mastered the first part... now for the second)? How much taxpayer (i.e. MINE AND YOURS) money would this waste? Is it really THAT difficult to read a sheet of instructions? If someone can't read a sheet of instructions, what is he or she doing standing around casting, or rather, TRYING to cast a vote for the President of the United States?

RyanH said:
Clothing: Of course, a dress code can be important. But, that doesn't mean you can judge a person based on what he or she is wearing. Look at the most notorious serial killers, they were well-dressed white men...Nice Try, Warik!

You can't judge a person based on what he or she is wearing, but you can make relatively educated assumptions that may benefit you. For example, you're walking through the bad part of town late at night (assumption: you are an idiot... but that's not my point). Let's say you see a group of raggedy dressed "thug-like" characters speaking incoherently. Do you a) continue on your merry way like nothing is wrong, or do you b) think to yourself: "Gee, those look like bad dudes, let me cross the street or duck into this little store for a few minutes."

Who do you think is more likely to shoplift, a guy in a suit or a guy dressed like he's ready to star in a rap music video? The latter, but of course, that doesn't mean that the former won't do it as well. See, RyanH, this is the point of statistics. You look at the statistics and you make assumptions based on those statistics. The sales person had a rough idea of the shoplifting statistics and acted accordingly. That doesn't make him a racist.

-Warik
 
Ryan -

I like you and if given the opportunity, I'd like you to rape me. But, I digress ....


Take off that hair shirt you've been wearing. You've got to lighten up a bit. I think you over-reacted.

Now, let's chat about that rape fantasy of mine. :D
 
First off, I read in the paper how some guy was pulled over and was found with a bunch of drugs on him. Now he was aquitted of all charges when he claimed he was the victim of racial profiling. Not very fair if you ask me. If you get pulled over and are found with someting illegal, no matter what they say, your guily and your ass should be locked up.
Another thing i think we should get rid of is Affirmative Action. That law doesnt nothing but totally disgrace the idea that it takes hard work to be successful. When you want a job, you busted your ass to get the high marks to get that job and someone else is given that job because of the color of their skin.
I deal with people constantly everyday. I can tell you from experiance that there is a notciable difference in the personalities of blacks & whites. These are just a few things i've noticed.
 
RyanH said:
I was in Circuit City today, with my best friend, who happens to be black. One of the sales guys kept watching my friend, while he wasn't watching me nor any of the other white customers.

So I went up to the salesguy and asked him, "Why the hell do you keep watching my black friend over there? Is it because he's black?" The guy responds, "I don't know what you are talking about." I said, "Why aren't you watching the Country Club bitch over there, for all you know, she could have a couple of CD's in her handbag...." He still denied, denied, denied.....

Blacks live in a world most of us don't have to live in....A World of oppression and racial strife.....

I'm now thinking about changing my choice in law to Civil Rights Law....there's way too much injustice in this IGNORANT world....

WHAT THE FUCK!! bwhahahahahahahaaaahaha.
let me get this straight: a sales person was looking at your friend and you go up and get in his face and right off the bat ask if he is profiling your friend becuase he is black?!?

you are a retard.
 
RyanH, the large number of replies to your thread should tell you what an explosive and divisive issue this is. Start a discussion on race relations/issues in America and you'll still be going on with it 200 years from now.

Racial discrimination is still one of the biggest social problems facing society, not just in America. Unfortunately at this point in time I cannot see an end in sight for this problem. For what it is worth at least you are able to see the problem unlike many other board members here who refuse to see or acknowledge it.

hardgainer (peace y'all)
 
I don't know where you've lived during your life. But I used to live in a predominately black city and attended high school there. It wasn't a picnic. Getting harassed almost every day, getting threatened for wearing a red shirt, and seeing them basically act like animals has tainted my view somewhat. Up till my senior year I attended a all white high school and seen none of that. And if you take this as a racist statement you're just afraid of the truth. I think you're just blind to basic facts in life...
 
I agree with big physics. My father is black and I don't ever hear him complaining of the "white man holding him down". The younger generation of african americans are so used to hearing that, they start to believe it. You know just because a situation like what happened to your friend occurred doesn't mean all white people are like that.
 
mena1 said:
I agree with big physics. My father is black and I don't ever hear him complaining of the "white man holding him down". The younger generation of african americans are so used to hearing that, they start to believe it. You know just because a situation like what happened to your friend occurred doesn't mean all white people are like that.
:D
Damn .
Someone who understands.

Its not up to a whole race to change at once, But rather to notice that anything can change as long as one has set their mind to do so.

Its up to each person.


RyanH, What did your freind say?
Did he confront the retailer?

Just wondering why it bothered you and not your freind.
 
oh my god, every race and creed has been oppressed at one point in time or another

damn you are complained about a little racism

the god damn US murdered thousands of indian
and they were here first

Jews by the millions in WWII

so i dont want to here any sob stories
 
Let me start with legislation.
When America was founded, it was a huge, loose belt around the waist of the free man. Then we started to legislate. Every single piece of legislation passed puts a notch in that belt and tightens it. OSHA, Civil Rights Laws, diving age and drinking age limits, drug laws, gun laws, property laws and every supreme court decision puts a notch into that belt and tightens it. Where some people see legislation as "freedom", all it is doing is making it easier for some while hampering the pace of others. It is this sense of security gained by a "common sense" law, like racial profiling or hate crimes laws which is truly limiting and destroying the freedom of this once great land. All notches in the belt. Its feeling pretty tight to me, and I'm only 19.


I have a friend, his name is Phil. He is adopted. He is black. He was raised by French people of Chinese descent, and therefore(not a racist remark) he speaks proper english, dresses is "normal" clothing, and most of all, was never told that he is a victim, he was never told that the white man hates him, and most of all, was never ever told that because he is black and that he has been opressed for so long, that he deserves a free ride! He is a very good friend of mine.

The wonderful mayor of my city has referred to a member of his staff as a "funny little white boy."
Is this not a racist remark? As a white person, I do not write this off as a description. What happened to Willie Brown though? Did he get smeared in the media? Did Jesse Jackson fly out in his private jet to protest Willie Brown for being racist? Of course not. Because being a black racist is alright. This wretched display of bigotry and cover up is a total slap in the face to peace loving Americans like myself who are constantly painted as racist.


I live in San Francisco. I live across the street from a police station, on the corner of Turk and Fillmore. SInce I've moved here, about one year, there have been three shootings and countless assaults, in fact, a few people attacked my roommate, but he was able to defend himself and sent them wimpering into the night.

All of the shootings were committed by black men. My roommate was jumped by two black youths. I see drug deals go down outside the local McDonalds by black people. I see white people get stared at and yelled at, sworn at and cursed by these black people. I am stared at by these black people, and the stares I get throw electric shivers down my spine, stares that would halt a charging bull.
Why am I getting hard looks? Are you going to tell me that they are staring at me for a reason other than the fact that I am white?

There are teachers at San Francisco State that teach the students that when black people are outright racists, it is ok because they are black. If white people are racist, they are scum.

Do I need to mention that at the store at which I work, we often get ripped off (I work at Wolf Camera). People steal mostly film and disposable cameras, sometimes small frames. By and large, surprise surprise, the people who commit these thefts are black! We had one guy rip five cans of film and a fucking underwater camera, putting them into his Old Navy bag and then walk out. Can we call the cops? Of course not. What description could we give him? "Yes officer, he was black, 5'10'', baggy pants, big jacket,hat on backwards, big nike shoes."
WTF are they supposed to do? They cant do shit because if they pursue a person who fits his description, its racial profile because they were looking for black men fitting that description. Black men fitting that description in San Francsico=about 75,000.

I stopped at a stop sign and an older black man was crossing, so like a cordial young man, I waited patiently as he slowly made his trek across the crosswalk. He stops, looks at me with that cold, dead stare, and shakes his head. Then he continues walking.

I get stares from crowds of "La Raza" freaks at school all the time. Its probably because I am a white racist.

I am an independant conservative who is a registered Republican. I have a "Hot Talk 560, KSFO" sticker (its the local conservative station) on my notebooks. I spent the entire school year sitting ALONE. Prejudice? I think so. People see that I'm a white conservative, so they think I'm a racist. A bigot. Which I'm not.

I grew up in Folsom, CA. An extremely white town. The two major occupations are Intel technician and prison guard. The people in Folsom are white, but I dont know a single damn racist in the whole bunch. Why? Lets see, because Folsom is a very conservative city, they are taught that everybody is equal and that hard work pays off. They are not taught that everybody is racist and that you should be watching people around you.

But I digress..back to San Fran.
I wont walk to the fucking grocery store after 10 at night because those two blocks are filled with cold hate. Hate that a person of my pleasant and peaceful convictions will not tolerate. I dont want to spend two blocks looking behind my back. I dont want those reviling eyes searching me.

I was at the candy stand in the store the other day (yeah so I cheated!) and I saw five black youths enter the store dressed like thugs. They stepped in front of me, secured their new belongings(which included a box of cereal, a bag of chips, a quart of milk, and a few forties)under their belts, closed their jackets and stood there.
Stood there to look at me. All five of them dressed the same. Staring at me, those filthy demeaning incriminating glances. Along with that glance comes the pretext "if you say shit, you aint leaving this store alive."

Do you think that they would gave given those looks to a black man? Of course you do, because that would further your cause.

Ryan, this is happening every day so you cant give me any of your white racist bullshit because I WONT STAND FOR IT ANYMORE. I AM TIRED OF THIS BULLSHIT! Just because whites were not enslaves by blacks, we're supposed to open up our federal treasury up to them? Why cant they just be Americans like all of the brave immigrants (LEGAL immigrants) from the early 1900s who, despite rampant racism and strife as you put it, were able to assimilate and become true Americans?

Are you aware that in Africa RIGHT NOW there are black slaves? How about the fact that tribal leaders were engaged in slave trading far, FAR before the anglos got involved? Or that the African tribals sold the slaves to the whites freely for MONEY AND TRADE? Of course you'll deny this, because it does not help to further your cause.

And the fact that most of the scum of the earth is white scum, I have one shining reason for that.

THERE ARE MORE WHITE PEOPLE THAN THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE.
That is why there are not as many black sitcoms on tv. That is why there are not as many black CEOs. You cant blame wall street for being racist because CEOs arent black because blacks only account for what, 11 percent of the national population? Oh but that means nothing, because the white majority is obviously racist, and has a long history of aristocratic racism so they would naturally never be so crass as to let a black man be CEO of anything important!

You racist jackal. You paint white people with the same brush. You automatically think that if an affront is cast upon a black from a white, that it was a racist act. You are a sickening spectical of a man who dismisses arguments that prove you wrong while you dont even look at facts. You sicken me with your reighteous ignorance and I dont want to ever hear you call someone racist again because you are totally full of hate and spite. You do not think, because you're too busy "feeling." I cant argue with someone who doesnt think, but lets their emotions take over thair thought process. It is a completely lost cause.

You have cried racism in a crowded country. You have created this phrase that, if you paint someone with it, they are destroyed, regardless of their actual convictions.

Hey! I'm psychic! I predict that...in the near future...
You are going to call me a racist.

Fuck this. I'm done with you.
 
absolute hardgainer said:

RyanH, the large number of replies to your thread should tell you what an explosive and divisive issue this is.

No, I think its just a long thread because everyones taking turns smashing Ryan on the head with the jackhammer. :D

Elitefitness Chat - 84 points
RyanH - 0 points
 
May1010 said:
Ryan -

I like you and if given the opportunity, I'd like you to rape me. But, I digress ....


Take off that hair shirt you've been wearing. You've got to lighten up a bit. I think you over-reacted.

Now, let's chat about that rape fantasy of mine. :D

MAY---NOW I KNOW YOU LIKED TO BE RAPED, BUT IN THIS CASE WOULD YOU CONSIDER RAPING HIM???
 
The ONLY way for RyanH to be happy is........mass brainwashing of every man, woman and child. I think that a lot of the racism that is not overt comes from ppl that don't know a lot of minorities and suffer from the "uncomfortable feeling" of being around someone that is different. Hollywood and the media don't help.
 
Hey Ryan, join the ACLU. I'm a member. You can sign up over the net and they will send you messages about current legislation. They even have it set up where you can contact your congressman about voting on certain bills. There is a bill about to be introduced regarding racial profiling by the police. I sent a fax to my representatives in congress and one of them even wrote back to me.
 
Ryan

You're white, right?

Considering all of your posts, you are trying way too hard to take on the role of the conscientious/guilt- laden white liberal...

It's cool that you took a stand for your friend, but...

Why don't you let him take a stand for himself?

Maybe the clerks weren't eyeballing your friend...maybe your friend (who has a lifetime of experience with these things) didn't feel, for whatever reason, that their behavior warranted a reaction...

I respect your idealism, but don't go around imposing your worldview/suspicions on other citizens, especially when you claim to be doing it on behalf of someone else
 
as a mathematician, i agree w/warik's thinking re: statistics.

in this day and age, it's become heretical to even DISCUSS issues with regards to race and how they relate to cold, hard facts.

why has there been only one white starting cornerback(the most speed-reliant position) in the nfl in the last ten years? why do we never see a starting white halfback? why are the sprint events TOTALLY dominated by black athletes? whenever there's any attempt to discuss these things, the discussion is closed due to pc reasons...once you start going down that slope of racial differences, (where in this case blacks measure superior) you must address the racial differences in other areas: IQ or other intelligence measurements being a biggie. i'm not gonna' sit here and say blacks are less intelligent genetically than whites or asians: i don't claim to be an expert on the subject and certainly am not capable of analyzing the impact environment plays in intelligence. it just galls me than any attempt to intelligently discuss such issues, to rationally analyze the numbers, is shot down immediately as being "racist".

there are no "out" gays in professional sports...sure, there are many societal reasons which could explain this. yet, why is it wrong to wonder/study the fact that gay men MAY on average be more "feminine", less athletic genetically than their straight counterparts? being gay and observing many gays, i personally suspect that to be the case.

the fact of the matter is that blacks are ON AVERAGE, poorer (and a liberal like you would be the first to admit that poverty is the reason many resort to thievery), they probably do (for whatever reason!) commit more crimes... so why is it wrong for a shop owner to keep an eye on someone from a group that seems to statistically have a better chance of stealing from him????
 
Budiak said:

I have a friend, his name is Phil...He is black. He was raised by French people of Chinese descent, and therefore(not a racist remark) he speaks proper english, dresses is "normal" clothing, and most of all, was never told that he is a victim, he was never told that the white man hates him, and most of all, was never ever told that because he is black and that he has been opressed for so long, that he deserves a free ride! .. You do not think, because you're too busy "feeling." I cant argue with someone who doesnt think, but lets their emotions take over thair thought process. It is a completely lost cause.

Hey! I'm psychic! I predict that...in the near future...
You are going to call me a racist.


Your friend has been brainwashed. Why doesn't he talk to Rosa Parks who was denied a seat on a bus just some 30 years ago? Why doesn't he talk to Diallo, shot over 40 times? Your friend reminds me of the few blacks who have sold out to the likes of Colin Powell and Clarence Thomas-----who have, in short, allowed themselves into being deluded, into believing, that there is no great racial divide in this country. Thus, your friends experience really tells us nothing.

Funny you would accuse me of being racist....Does your friend look like America, I am white, but the closest people in my life are both Japanese and Black. Your world probably looks like the Republican Party --------Uninformed, one-dimensional..

I bet I have a helluva alot more education than you do , and certainly have no problems getting employment opportunites in high places. And, as usual, extremists, like yourself, argue that I'm thinking with my heart and not my head. This argument is downright SILLY. Most of this country's greatest acts have been done by heart. Would Abrahama Lincoln have freed the slaves, but for his deep-seated belief that, blacks too, are humans, worthy of being treated fairly. Luckily, your flawed notions of reality mean nothing in the end. What really matters, is that we live our lives outside of your small microcosmic, unexposed world, and wake up to the realities of what it means to be human.

Your brainwashed illogical arguments are yesterday's news....they reached their peak in the 60's.

The fact still stands: Blacks are treated unequally. And, blacks will no longer be silenced while being treated this way. The whole country has "risen up" and will continue to rise up. From the Democrats in Congress, to the modern civil rights leaders, to "enlighted, well-informed whites"---blacks will have defenders out there pointing out racists like yourself for the rest of our lives.

As the honorable President Bill Clinton once said, we will be in the ringing fighting to the last dog dies. There is still much work to be done to flush society of your evil, biggoted hearts.....but we are going nowhere. We conquered Hitler, we conquered white Southern racists judges, we even conquered the Republican Party and its hate.

We are in your government and as for me, I'm in your courtroom chambers.....We will infiltrate and do what it takes to ensure that the darkest days, the holocaust, slavery, discrimination stays where it belongs...down in the trenches with the filth and squalor of your brutal horrific INSIPID way of life.

You are right------You are a racist.

We are alive and well------and as always....I STAND BY EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID.......NO REGRETS.......NOT NOW......... NOT EVER......
 
Originally posted by DaWickedMoor
The secret is out. Oh yeah, Beethoven was black, so was Moses, Jesus, Einstein and Arnold.
ARNOLD WAS BLACK ???
Damn, that explains why he was so Bad Ass!!! :cool:
 
Can't we all just get along?

Ryan, this is one white man that agrees with you!

Oh, BTW ..... DaWickedMoor is now on my ignore list..... you are a dumb shit racist.... and if I happen to be wrong about the your racism, then you are definately a segregationist!

Let's all try to be blind to the color of skin please!
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
It's been documented PLENTY of times ryan, alot of black people get free rides because of their skin color, and were not nearly up to the qualifications that were expected of other applicants. Companies are just afraid NOT to hire black people because they'll have the NAACP filing suit against them for not having enough blacks on their staff. There should be no affirmative action, people who review applications should not know the color of the applicant, EVERYTHING should be based on your qualifications to handle the job.


Exactly true, employers shouldn't need to know the race of potential employee's, just qualifications for the job. I feel that affirmitive action is just legalized racism which is popular. I understand there were times when blacks and other minorities were very oppressed and the NAACP needed to be aggressive to help out their people, but times are very differant now and the aggressiveness should not be to the extent where a new small businessman hires 4 people and the first thing he thinks of is oh I better make sure 2 of them are black so I dont get my ass sued right from the get go..viewpoints on this topic vary a lot especially due to location and where you live, my point of view is this, where I live, me being italian I am the minority, there are far more blacks and puerto ricans than italians or caucasions. many times puerto ricans will start speaking spanish to me out of the blue, and when I tell them im not spanish, the attitude seems to be oh my mistake, fuck you then. right now I work in corrections and am currently trying to get in a better facility for about double the pay, my best friend james, who is black is also trying to get in, we both just took the test last tuesday and he was given 5 extra points for being black, while I received 3 extra points for serving my nation for 4 years and busting my ass. I have a serious problem with this...especially when on a few occassions I got to be called nice names by the local civilians like baby killing murdering motherfucker... and even if I hadn't served then this means he was 5 pts ahead of me still, yet IM the minority here, and we both went through the same horrible public school that was actually condemned..lol so its not like o well he is white and has a better shot yada yada..my friend also feels the same way on this, hell he even joked and said I should tell them im half black so I can get 2.5 pts so it would be fair. anyways this isnt a topic I get into much as there is usually super ignorant posts involved, but the point is affirmative action is a very bad idea.
 
Before I add my "two cents" to this long thread, let me reiterate what I have stated on other similarly-themed subjects: Although I shouldn't be surprised, it still amazes me that there are so many racists (and let me add, homophobes) on this site. No matter how you word your comments (and saying, "by the way; I'm not a racist" doesn't make you not), the racism is loud and clear. The fact that virtually no blacks respond to these threads also indicates that this website is predominantly white, so I guess that means (to you) that you can expound on your racially-virulent ideas without contest. The "Jap" comments on the "Pearl Harbor" thread, the "nigger mocking" on the "Black comedians" thread... it's appalling... and sad, because it shows that no matter what "gains" blacks have made, there will always be ignorant whites who never see the big picture.

Racism, by definition, means the notion that one's own race is superior to others -- prejudice and discrimination is solely based on racism. So, how can an African American be racist when they are not in a position of superiority? How can a black person discriminate against a white when he isn't in a position of power to do so?

Racism, bigotry, prejudice, discrimination... alive and well, according to the previous comments. I'm black with a "white collar" job and, a few years ago, I was outside with my white co-workers hailing down cabs to go home (I worked evenings and my job would send us home in cabs and reimburse us). They got their cabs and left. Almost ten cabs passed me up before one stopped for me, and I was wearing a suit and tie and carrying a briefcase. I complained to my company about the blatant racism and they were conscientious enough to open a taxi account with a cab company so that ALL of us could get a cab in a timely fashion. But, a situation like that would NEVER happen to you (and that's a small example), so how can you POSSIBLY get the larger scope of racism in employment, housing, etc. ? YOU CAN'T.
 
Is your real name....Danny Glover?????...Listen Pal its people like yourself white/or black that have this huge chip on your shoulder..So next time i flag down a cab he dosent stop i guess its because im the color i am?:rolleyes: All you wan't to do is sit there and CRY about living in such a horrible place....PLEASE U MAKE ME SICK...I guess the Job you hold is ok because they gave u a job,but soon as someone isnt kissing your ass,if accourse they are white...they must be racism..Poor confussed soul......
 
oh come on, _outlaw.

is there really any doubt that black people get passed over for cabs more than white people? it would piss me off, too.
 
BigPhysicsBastard said:
Ryan, you can spin all you want, facts are facts. Do white people commit crimes? Sure they do, but do blacks represent the majority of crime in the U.S?..........They sure do. Black store owners will watch blacks more than whites.....OK? People who own property or whatever, don't care about your liberal bleeding heart candy ass, THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR DAMN PROPERTY!!!!! If whites committed the greater percentile of crime in the U.S. than they would be racially profiled as well. There are areas of the United States that are predominately white, where police still profile, only their looking at other characteristics. It's just a fact of life. And why would a black guy care if he was being watched, if he didn't plan on stealing anything anyway?

Its just simple math.
 
Wow I see Ryan H is out saving all of us from ourselves again. Do you actually work out or do you just troll here trying to figure out what is wrong with all of us. Of course you would never be prejudiced against anyone,unless they don't agree with your beliefs.

Does racisim exist? Yes. Will it always exist in one form or another? Yes. Is it my problem or do I give a flying fuck? Nope.

I feel as long as I treat people the way they treat me then I am doing ok. I know people from all backgrounds who are good people and know assholes from all backgrounds. Color, creed, religion, sexual preference I treat everybody the same.
 
Last edited:
Let me clear this up for all of yoiu that dont know. Circuit city is not a small mom and pop place. The sales guy looses nothing if the kid decided to walk out with a bunch of expensive equipment. Furthermore, they have security devices on everything....I know, i went in there today to price some equipment.
Im guessing that guy could give two shits if the kid threw some CD's into his baggy pants and attempted to walk out. The security guard there would catch him anyway.
So then you must ask, why was the sales guy looking at him?? Maybe it was his goofy ass looking baggy pants. I know when i see someone dressed funny i stare at them also and wonder whats wrong with them...
This fool is just looking for a reason to complain. Its people like that, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson who piss me off. Things are pretty equal now..The only way to change things and make them better off for the blacks is giving them more than anyone else and adjusting laws to suit them fine. Doing this would give an unfair advantage and someone or race (whites) would be left out. Thats the way it's always been with any type of civil rights law and when we complain about it we're called racist. So FUCK YOU RyanH for trying to take away my fuckin rights to give some negro an advantage..If he wants what I want he should work just as hard as I.
 
What would happen if race wasnt an issue in hiring people...If all that was needed for getting a good job was good credentials and qualifications...Would there be more blacks or less blacks in the work place???
 
VicTusDeuS said:
What would happen if race wasnt an issue in hiring people...If all that was needed for getting a good job was good credentials and qualifications...Would there be more blacks or less blacks in the work place???

You're just begging that someone answers that question so you can call him or her a racist, aren't you?

Didn't they invent "Affirmative Action" BECAUSE good credentials and qualifications were all that were needed to get a good job?

-Warik
 
Wow, it must be really great to be white, outlaw, and not be bothered with the petty, little problems that blacks claim they have to deal with. It must be terrific to be able to ride your bike into any neighborhood without someone calling you a nigger and trying to run you over with their car (this happened when I was 17). How wonderful it must be able to buy a house in any suburb in the country without the sheriff knocking on your door to warn you about a bomb threat to your new home if you don't move out (happened to my mother three years ago). To be able to hail down cabs without any problems, walk through a department store without security guards following you, to drive through Beverly Hills in your new Mercedes and the police never pull you over, make you get out and sit on the sidewalk while they go through your car with a fine-tooth comb (which happened to me last week). What a joy to be white, huh, outlaw? These little incidentals mean nothing to you... and, why should they, you piece of shit racist fuck?
 
Mitchellm said:
It must be terrific to be able to ride your bike into any neighborhood without someone calling you a nigger and trying to run you over with their car (this happened when I was 17).

Must be terrific to be able to drive your car through a black neighborhood without getting a rock thrown at it. (This happened to me a few weeks ago when I drove through the black neighborhood lying between my area and the Grove. Last time I go to the Grove btw.

Mitchellm said:
How wonderful it must be able to buy a house in any suburb in the country without the sheriff knocking on your door to warn you about a bomb threat to your new home if you don't move out (happened to my mother three years ago).

Oh give me a break. There are like 3 black families in my neighborhood and they've never had nor given any trouble.

Mitchellm said:
To be able to hail down cabs without any problems, walk through a department store without security guards following you, to drive through Beverly Hills in your new Mercedes and the police never pull you over, make you get out and sit on the sidewalk while they go through your car with a fine-tooth comb (which happened to me last week).

Cabs: What cab would drive past a well-dressed man or woman who looked important, had an important place to go to, and would probably tip nicely for getting there quickly?

Department Stores: If you're not going to steal anything, why should this bother you? I had some geek following me around today cause I walked into the store wearing a pair of shorts and a sweaty t-shirt after getting out of the gym. Oh no he must be racist against white people who work out!

Being pulled over: You can't be pulled over just for the hell of it. Were you speeding? Did you ignore a stop sign? Did you run a red light? Your car also can't be searched without probable cause. Don't you read the Constitution? I'm certain that a) You did something that gave the police the right to pull you over and b) You gave them permission to search your car.

Any cop/former cop on this board can confirm that they can't just pull you over and dig through your car without probable cause or permission.

Mitchellm said:
These little incidentals mean nothing to you... and, why should they, you piece of shit racist fuck?

So people like me are racists because we think logically? That's some good logic, buddy - maybe you're a racist too.

-Warik
 
If you are between the ages of 13-20, the salesperson is going to watch you. And because Blacks commit crimes at a ridiculously higher rate than whites. Why the hell would you not watch him.

Your friend should be blaming his thug ass peers for distorting his image. Not some innocent circut city worker. And you had a lot of balls to go up to a stranger and start talking shit when you were probably wrong about everything.

I think you said you were in Law school, so it looks like you will be playing the race card to get your way all the time. You should be pretty sucessful in bailing out as many black criminals as you can.

The reason there is so much racial injustice in society is because of idiots like you. Everything is racist, you see no double standard. Everyone is against blacks. How did you know he was only looking at your friend?? did you watch him for a couple hours and see a pattern?? No, you just jumped to a conclusion like a dumbass.
 
-Warik"You're just begging that someone answers that question so you can call him or her a racist, aren't you?

No, everything should be based on credentials. Your acceptance into a good college should be based on a well rounded educational experiance such as college prep classes, sports and activities, clubs. Good grades and SAT scores should be important too. Those should be the only things that should determine if you are qualified for a certain college...Not race.

For a job, good marks in college and past experiance such as internships and co-ops along with a degree in the field you wish to pursue should determine your employment at a job.

All that information is stuff that has nothing to do with race but based only on your performance. Of course there will always be a person to sit back and complain that they werent hired because of their race or whatnot. To keep this from happening, all job applications along with the resumes should be kept on file until the statute of limitations runs out for such a case. With all that documented information, the lawyers for the company can proove that only the brightest most qualified people that applied were hired. No questions asked, no more racial discrimination complaints.
 
I think the gear is getting to ryan,j/k anyway yeah thats shitty when you get profiled but it also matters where you are .If your black and your in a hillbilly town you think they aint gonna look at yo ass.:confused:
 
Natymike said:


The reason there is so much racial injustice in society is because of idiots like you. Everything is racist, you see no double standard. Everyone is against blacks. How did you know he was only looking at your friend?? did you watch him for a couple hours and see a pattern?? No, you just jumped to a conclusion like a dumbass.


Why are you so afraid of blacks? Is it because you are afraid that they are brighter, more intelligent, and more equipped than your ignorant verbalizations.....
 
RyanH said:
Why are you so afraid of blacks? Is it because you are afraid that they are brighter, more intelligent, and more equipped than your ignorant verbalizations.....

Why are you now saying that blacks are "brighter and more intelligent" than whites? Isn't that the whole "racist" viewpoint against which you are attempting (note the word "attempting") to argue?

Please try to stay consistent.

-Warik
 
I dont give a shit what law school you go to, someone has seriously fucked your head with an agenda
 
wtf

I think you guys are giving Ryan too much of a hard time. I'm a half breed native american who lives in the SW and has to put up with racial shit all the time. I'm not bitching about it just telling you how it is. The way I see it Ryan is just looking for a solution to the problem- and yes, maybe there is no solution but we'll never know until we keep looking. I believe everyone is biased and partially prejudice against one race or another, that's just the plain truth of the matter, admit it or not. I'm done with this before I get really fuckin pissed off.:mad:
 
Warik said:


Why are you now saying that blacks are "brighter and more intelligent" than whites? Isn't that the whole "racist" viewpoint against which you are attempting (note the word "attempting") to argue?

Please try to stay consistent.


That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm simply saying that people should not be so quick to conclude that blacks are somehow "lesser" than us whites. There are many blacks who have accomplished far more than any of us have hoped to accomplish....

Warik.....you are the KING OF INCONSISTENCY in your arguments. One day, if I ever really care to, I'm going to begin a post with proof of your prior arguments and how inconsistent they are....
 
BUMP FOR THE 100TH POST IN CELEBRATION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., BOOKER T. WASHINGTON, GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER, REVERAND JESSE JACKSON, REVERAND AL SHARPTON, AND ROSA PARKS.......LONG MAY THEY LIVE...
 
RyanH said:
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm simply saying that people should not be so quick to conclude that blacks are somehow "lesser" than us whites. There are many blacks who have accomplished far more than any of us have hoped to accomplish....

I have no doubt that there are many blacks who have accomplished far more than many of us have hoped to accomplish... many blacks who have accomplished these things DESPITE THE ALLEGED RACISM THAT IS PRESENT IN EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE UNITED STATES ACCORDING TO YOU. If they can do it, why can't other blacks?

RyanH said:
Warik.....you are the KING OF INCONSISTENCY in your arguments. One day, if I ever really care to, I'm going to begin a post with proof of your prior arguments and how inconsistent they are....

And you are the KING OF MAKING ME LAUGH with your responses. The whole "if I really care to" clause is nothing more than a reason for you NOT to attempt the impossible - show me how "inconsistent" my arguments are.

Oh, and if by some miracle you DID happen to find inconsistencies in my arguments, how many posts do you think I'd have to sift through to find twice as many in yours? Just curious.

-Warik
 
Bump For Gen Nathan Bedford Forrest, Bump For Adolf Hitler Long May They Live!!! Your such an idiot RyanH..All Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton do is cause more racial tension between all of us. I wouldnt have half the anger on this issue as I have if it werent for their sorry asses trying to cause trouble all the time.
 
BigPhysicsBastard: You don't know what you are talking about.....Read David Herbert Donald's biography of Lincoln.....it is well documented that Lincoln did have great compassion for the slaves....hence the Emancipation Proclomation when the rest of the country was against it.....

Where do you get your historical analysis from? Probably Jerry Falwell's website....
 
RyanH, you would make a good cult member. Your zeal with which you chase your convictions is unmatched (at least your arguing). The worst error you commit is not giving creedance to logic on the other side or at least considering it. Cult members don't like to think that something could be wrong or that their view might need to be modified. I think you might need to modify your views ( don't hit me with something like "what if Frederick Douglas modified his views"). I do believe racial injustice needs to fought against where it is feasable. I think your friend in the store might have fit the profile of a "punk" rather than a "black man"(maybe "black punk"???). AND even if the clerk in the store was watching him for the fact that he was black, what good would it do to confront the clerk? Arguing almost never changes a person's opinions. Then, RyanH, what is the solution to the clerk's heart??? You ain't got the anwers and neither does the legislation! I hope you see that...
 
First of all if anyone here thinks that JIM CROW is dead than they are in serious denial, or just blind!I am a 36 year old black man and I have been pulled over so many times that I have almost stopped counting.Driving while black is not a crime yet someone said that the police cannot pull you over for no reason and THEY ARE SERIOUSLY WRONG!The police can do what they want until the driver goes to the station and files a complaint on that officer and demands an explanation for why they are being singled out. I kept records on all the times and places that it occured to me and when I went to the desk sargeant and had a sit down they agreed that there is a problem and he called the officer in from duty to discuss the matter!The look on the cops face was one of shock because he couldnt beleive that I had called his bluff and now he was under the microscope.I drive a pretty conservative car a toyota camry and all of my lights work ,I use my indicators,no loud music that could be heard from 50 ft away from my car and I generally mind my own business.To make a long story short I ended up filing a complaint against the officer and it turned out he had been doing this for a while .He was made to attend a sensitivity class and he was not to happy about that!I am not one to raise the race card but the area I live in is a 90% white and we have a home owners association and everything is fine and dandy but I will not be targeted by a cop who feels that I do not belong in a certain area because in his mind I am up to something! I read all the posts on here and It is a little scary to see that some of you think that profiling a person because he or she has baggy pants on or looks like eminmem statistically is a potential thief.Statistics are fine on paper but in the real world you cannot do that and if you do be prepared to pay up and plenty because if you own a store and you tackle a person who you think has stolen something and they resist and your coworkers hog tie him or her only to find that they have not stolen anything then all hell is going to break out,LEGAL HELL FOR THE OWNERS!!! I know that statistically I have a better chance of getting robbed by a black or other minority but I watch my back even in the most upscale area and I will not be caught slipping anywhere end of discussion.I have a concealed weapons permit and carry a semi auto with me and I hope I never have to use it on anyone WHITE OR BLACK BUT I will protect myself from the perp no matter what shade his or her skin color is.I have been followed in the mall and one time I was disrespected so badly and verbally abused that I went to the mall manager and we both walked to the store and had a long talk with the store manager and with their corporate manager via phone to see what the problem was.I do not look for trouble but if you think this black man is going to take crap from anyone then you are mistaken.I will call a lawyer and hurt them in their pockets and they do not want that at all.I dont go looking to bait the police or store employees on but I choose to ignore them and when I feel I need help in a department then I will seek their services.Anyone who has had a problem with stores ,police, or just in general will tell you that the one bad experience you have will stay with you forever and forever is a long time in my book.I see that many white families are having problems with their teenagers listening to rap and dressing the roll so to speak.In their minds they are saying I did not raise my kids this way but the kid has gone with the fad and mommy and daddy are buying the $150 sneakers and jeans and the pounding sound systems for their cars and now what they moved away from in the LIBERTY CITIES all across america has now walked into their family room and is looking them right in the EYE!!! YOU CANNOT DENY THAT!!Next th kids start to bring home their minority friends and do they blame the new friend for influencing the son or daughter?? One step further mommys little girl is now dating a black youth and all hell has broke out because their worst nightmare has occured!! This topic on RACE MAY BE OLD TO SOME BUT IT TAKES CERTAIN SITUATIONS TO BRING OUT THE TRUE FEELINGS IN MANY OF US AND IF ITS FAMILY THEN IT HITS ALL THE WAY HOME. I hope I did not bore you but I have enlightened some or even one person here.I would like to think that the person spotting me at the gym is not a card carrying KLAN MEMBER but some would say that the klan now wears a three piece suit?? JUDGE ME BY MY CHARACTER AND NOT THE COLOR OF MY SKIN AND WE WILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS.........
 
The same thing happened to my friend and I once. This redneck fucker owned a convenience store and always watched my friend because he was black. At first my friend got pissed, then we went in there and while he was watching my friend, I stole everything I could. Fucking racist.
 
NCLifter said:

The same thing happened to my friend and I once. This redneck fucker owned a convenience store and always watched my friend because he was black. At first my friend got pissed, then we went in there and while he was watching my friend, I stole everything I could. Fucking racist.


Your parents must be very proud of you...
 
NCLifter said:
...while he was watching my friend, I stole everything I could. Fucking racist.

He's a better man than you are if what you're saying is completely true. Mangy thief.

-Warik
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom