r-ALA...Powerful stuff!

[mlkmgr]

referring to post # 6->reduced insulin=more fat burning. so how long do you take it and what are the sides to stop taking it? will your insulin levels go up and less fat burning? just curious before i invest

 

[Ulter]

Yes they go back up. It's not a cure. It is a supplement to the r-ALA your body already produces. By adding in more r-ALA to your system you reduce your insulin levels and dispose of your carbs into your muscle cells. So the muscle get stronger, the body fat comes down and your liver and you live a long happy life.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

while insulin levels will rise with cessation.. they will likley be lower than before "treatment" particularly with the loss of fat. WHich increases insulin sensitivity.. there may be some restorative effects that last considerably after cessation..

basically you should be better off than before taking it.. how much will vary..

 

[Frackal]

Macro did you just state that a higher level of insulin will not equate to a higher level of amino acids being delivered to the cell assuming there is an adequate supply of AA available?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Macro did you just state that a higher level of insulin will not equate to a higher level of amino acids being delivered to the cell assuming there is an adequate supply of AA available?

...yes..

 

[Baby Gorilla]

GREAT NEWS FOR rALA USERS....

I hope this is permanent at AF, but you can get 12 bottles for the price of 10 in a bulk pack. Makes each bottle $16.63.

Costs a bit up-front, but if you KNOW you'll use it, might as well go for the cheaper price....I do that with protien powder.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

 

[Frackal]

So let's say I just injected 8ius of humalog and drank 75 grams of isopure along with 100grams of (phosphagen) dextrose and ginger root... (which I did)

If I were to intake the same things, only leaving out the humalog, there would likely be no difference in the amount of amino acids delivered to the cell?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

So let's say I just injected 8ius of humalog and drank 75 grams of isopure along with 100grams of (phosphagen) dextrose and ginger root... (which I did)

If I were to intake the same things, only leaving out the humalog, there would likely be no difference in the amount of amino acids delivered to the cell?

well it depends.. in a post workout state.. their MIGHT be greater uptake..

the data referenced was developed using a feeding from and unfed state.. so their MIGHT be differences..

but if you have normal secretion levels.. ??

the use of slin may have secondary effects on muscle gain.. due to water, fat and likely IM fat gain...(which likely allows greater training volume and stability.. plus sheer mass)

however it would seem that primary effects.. as stated above are minimal in the absence of a secretion issue.. with perhaps, PERHAPS, the exception of PW.. no benefit with respect to amino uptake.

 

[Frackal]

Isnt it said that lipoic acid products (dont know if 1 or other is better at this) increase both glucose and Amino acid uptake? Is this above and beyond what natural insulin can do?


This is confusing me a bit as i have read that along with the proper supply of protein a hyperaminoacidemia state can be achieved in the cell with the use of insulin....