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instant.muscle
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how is QV's enanthate 250mg compared to other enanthate products? i know qv's deca is awesome but what about their Test. good equal or worse compared 2 others? thanx
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SharonNeedles
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All of QV's products are good EXCEPT their enanthate, it hurts sooooo bad. If you are looking for cheap Mex juice you got to try Tornels test 200, I don't know why, but this stuff for what ever reason is great.instant.muscle said:
instant.muscle
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TheRide said:
is it as painful as he said it was? jeezum lol n e one?
instant.muscle said:
No
I have used 3 of the 50 ml jugs of QV Enan over ther years and never had any real problems with it...
Nighthawkk
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It hurts...a lot. I think iranian enanth is superior in all respects
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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instant.muscle said:
NO, there is no pain
I'll begin on numero two of the 50ml soooon
instant.muscle
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thanx bros! time 2 bust out the qv deca and test! booya
instant.muscle
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injection pain or soreness the next day pain are yall talking about?
NaturalOnlyAtBirth
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it worked fine except its also the only thing ive ever taken thats given me the "test flu" and holy shit did it suck.
instant.muscle
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what happened, it came at start of cycle? how did u feel how long did it last.
instant.muscle
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Mr. Burns said:
nice gains, what u stacking with, how many cycles have u done and hows ur strength lookin?
instant.muscle
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i know and have heard sust takes 3-4 weeks to come in, does enanthate have a long or shorter ester? how many weeks should it take 2 feel it? quicker or longer than sust? thanx
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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NaturalOnlyAtBirth said:
Test flu is a myth that many have put to an end
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shawnerk
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I love it! I would freakin marry the shit if it was legal! She doesn't hurt too bad. Maybe a little sore the first day or two is all, but who cares when it makes you grow like a weed! Did I say I love it?
facethepain
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The first time I ran QV Test E, I did 500 mg(2 cc's) in the quad. It was smooth, no pain at all. But the next 6 days was terrible. I couldn't hardly walk. It would swell and turn red with heat it. Then it moved to just above my knee. I thought I was going to have to see my doc. Luckily it passed and it's fine now. I thought maybe it was the needle but I never touch them(1 to draw and 1 to inject). Another buddy said he got sore as hell on it 2. Maybe it was a bad batch. You think I should split the 500 mg (2 shots/wk. @ 250) instead of 1@500/wk?
trenfan2
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instant.muscle said:
Enanthate IS the ester. Sutanon is a Testosterone blend, with 3 or 4 different esters depending on if you have sust100 or sust250. Ihave always used single esters so I can't give advice on how long it takes for sust to have effects. You may find some useful knowledge on this chart or products/esters and their halflives.
http://www.come.to/roidcalc.
NaturalOnlyAtBirth
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Actually it was mid cycle, probably the 4th or 5th week. I was doing 2 mL's a week and for some reason this time it took me out. I dont think I got out of bed for 2 days. I tried tylenol flu and all the medicine I could get. Only thing that really helped was a few vicodin (i never take any med's unless I have to), made me sleepy and took away the ache's. But in the end I kept going and got good gains. I just think QV gear is a little "dirtier" than most other human grade gear and is probably the reason for it. I've done several cycles since then and not a problem even with everyday injects of homebrewed tren.
instant.muscle
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i wanna do qv enanthate for 10 weeks at 250 mg with deca qv at 300 with winstrol at the end for 6 weeks at 50 mg eod. 2nd cycle, think i should bump up to 500 mg of test or the 250 is good?
instant.muscle
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FanOfTheKitty
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HORSESHIT! Lot# QVE 015,EXP. 06 2006.TOTAL GARBAGE. I never used this stuff before until last Sunday.My ICN Galenikas were flagged so I had to get this crap from a buddy. On Monday,I started to get a bad soreness in my shoulder,I felt like I was starting to get the flu. My body was fighting it off.Felt like total shit Mon. night.
Felt fine the next day,but I still have some swelling in my delt,where I injected,and it is hard.Still a little painful.Just took a shot of the Teston 200 in my quad. I hope I fair better with the cyp then the garbage Enth.
...Oh Yeah,by the way,If you have ever used good human grade Test,i.e.,Upjohn,Primoteston,Testoviron,Steris(This stuff was the shit back in the late 80's),ICN Galenika,you will never experince excessive injection site pain,Test flu,or abcesses,or any other complication of the sort.Take it from someone who has used juice since I was 17. I am 34 now,and have alot of experience with the gear.Mexican Vet gear BLOWS
Felt fine the next day,but I still have some swelling in my delt,where I injected,and it is hard.Still a little painful.Just took a shot of the Teston 200 in my quad. I hope I fair better with the cyp then the garbage Enth.
...Oh Yeah,by the way,If you have ever used good human grade Test,i.e.,Upjohn,Primoteston,Testoviron,Steris(This stuff was the shit back in the late 80's),ICN Galenika,you will never experince excessive injection site pain,Test flu,or abcesses,or any other complication of the sort.Take it from someone who has used juice since I was 17. I am 34 now,and have alot of experience with the gear.Mexican Vet gear BLOWS
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shawnerk
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qv is treating me very well at this very moment.. hmm- different strokes I suppose 
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supertech69
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It depends on how sensitive you are to the BA content in it. It does (or did) have a very high BA content. I haven't used it for going on 2 yrs now but, I can tell ya, the 50ml cripled me, the 10's were bearable but, I decided to not fuck with it anymore, no need to suffer when there are equal products w/out the pain. Maybe pick up a 10ml or two & try it along with something else to see if it bothers you or not. I had friends wo ran the same batch as me w/no pain whatsoever. On the positive side though, it worked very well!
instant.muscle
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if i mix the 10ml test E for 1 cc with 1 cc of deca think it will reduce pain?
FanOfTheKitty
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Quite possibly it might reduce the pain,but there is only one way to find out.Good Luck.Let me know how it goes.
instant.muscle
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thx
LVTitan
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how many cycles have you done, if this is the first cycle you should be good at 250, but i try to keep my test equal to or above my deca dose.. maybe shoot 1.5cc test w/1 cc deca.. and yes you can mix them in the same pin if you want, not to reduce pain, just to reduce the number of pokes..instant.muscle said:
i think some people just have a naturally low pain threshold, us real men never had any probs with qv being painful, just let your nuts hang where god put 'em and stick that shit, if it hurts, you might wanna just consider crochet or basket weaving instead of body building..
hope this helps..
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instant.muscle
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LVTitan said:
cool i'm taking it with deca and winny so i'll feel the test as about weeks 4 or 5 and the deca around 6? and i guess the winny if i'm running it 7-12 around 8, sound right? will i still get stronger and bigger off those first 3 weeks though?
instant.muscle
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true. i'm hoping to put on around 25 quality pounds, when ia dd the winny at week 7, will i keep goin up in weight or more likely just get harder and stay the same weight cuz of fat burn? thanx and i know u say uve always used QV test E, how were ur gains on it. how did ur cycles look exactly? thanks, specifics please
LVTitan
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my first two cycles were old school taper style.
12 weeks. 1cc 1cc 1cc 2cc 2cc 3cc 3cc 2cc 2cc 1cc 1cc 1cc
first cycle put on 25lbs, but didnt know about pct. still kept 15lbs
second cycle same way (supertest) about 15lbs gain didnt keep much cause i always get depressed post cycle and stop going to gym (no pct most likely the reason)
the last one was only 8weeks and it was 500mg/week good quality gains
i have no one to blame for losing it but myself. gf probs after cycle..
12 weeks. 1cc 1cc 1cc 2cc 2cc 3cc 3cc 2cc 2cc 1cc 1cc 1cc
first cycle put on 25lbs, but didnt know about pct. still kept 15lbs
second cycle same way (supertest) about 15lbs gain didnt keep much cause i always get depressed post cycle and stop going to gym (no pct most likely the reason)
the last one was only 8weeks and it was 500mg/week good quality gains
i have no one to blame for losing it but myself. gf probs after cycle..
instant.muscle said:
Like I said before, if you are gaining THAT kind of weight on a cycle then you are NOT READY to be using anabolics
How old are you anyway?
The Terminator said:Like I said before, if you are gaining THAT kind of weight on a cycle then you are NOT READY to be using anabolics
How old are you anyway?
You're becoming a broken record, Termie.
How does it feel?
I've been preaching these type of things for months......
DIV
DIVISION said:You're becoming a broken record, Termie.
How does it feel?
I've been preaching these type of things for months......
Why do you think I dont spend NEARLY as much time her anymore...
Its RARE that a newbie actually listens so I tend not to help them out as much anymore
DIVISION said:True.
DIV
Its too bad for them, as those are the guys who need it THE MOST
Someone else always seems to fill in for a little while though before they get burned out of answering the same questions again and again and again that have already been asked over 1000 times in the past year
The Terminator said:Its too bad for them, as those are the guys who need it THE MOST
Someone else always seems to fill in for a little while though before they get burned out of answering the same questions again and again and again that have already been asked over 1000 times in the past year
Right.
Some people have to learn the hard way.
DIV
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