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saint808

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Ok, I can't sleep yet again... what would you guys take if you needed a drastic improvement and only had 4 weeks or less to do it in? What would provide the most dramatic results in such a short period of time?


Rich
 
since i couldn't sleep last night was doing the hypotheticals... i've been reading about every single post on the boards just trying to make it all make sense in my head... so consider this like an essay test... well excepti don't want like a thousand words :)... guess you guys would need a subject for your experiment... we'll use me i guess. the guy woulkd be 5'9" 205, around 18% BF. See what you can come up with... for fun.


Rich
 
I have seen some guys on this board have had a decent experience with fina for 4 weeks. It would probably be of benefit to run it for more than that (liek 6 to 8)but I think it would show some results. Fina/Winny on lower than maintenance cals would probably get some LBM and reduce BF a little bit....Dont have any experience with fina yet....but I will in a few more weeks:D . Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

-Chuck
 
i want your abs bulldog.... heheh. goal would be to drmatically lose bf, and retain as much muscle as possible, considering it is a first cycle good chance you could actually add some muscle.
 
Even fina/prop every other day would be good. Toss in some winny or anavar and you should have a good quick cycle. Try this:

Fina........150mg/EOD.........1-4
Prop.......150mg/EOD.........1-4
Winny.....100mg/ED...........1-4
or anavar..80mg/ED...........1-4
Clomid................................5-7

Should be good, short and sweet!
 
yeah i noticed i misread who you were... heheh haven't seen your abs actually... and hop i didn;t offend you or the 8-pack guy :)
 
ironmaster, what would the dosages be? keep in mind this would be a first cycle, so would they be low?


Rich
 
If this is your first cycle and you want good solid gains, you're going to need more time than 4 weeks. Botom line. But if you're fully intent on doing a 4 week cycle, I would suggest this:

Prop---500mg----weeks 1-4
Fina---75mg ED--weeks 1-4
Winny--50mg ED--weeks 1-4

Clomid---300,100,50--weeks 5-8

This would give you some decent gains, but you would get much better results by extending it a couple more weeks. The doses are pretty average, not too much, but just enough to make good gains. If you never done fina before,you might want to lower that to 50mg ED, as it is the harshest drug there, but the one that will give you the most strength gains.
 
guess i should have clarified... won't just be a 4 week cycle, was wondering what would change the body the quickest, like noticable differences in 4 weeks... make sense?
 
Can't think of anything better than what Bulldog recommended I would definately do something around Fina and Prop!
 
Seriously you need more time...Fina and Halo, but it is a harsh combi....Test Prop is good, but 4 weeks is pushing it for results.....I would hit the Clen, Fina and Halo if you can handle the halo.....Becareful and hit the cardio and straighten your diet out....18%%%%%%%%!!!!
 
oddly enough i will be hitting the clen, although the fat has been coming off really well with a nyc product... almost a lil too strange because diet is not so good as of late.



Rich
 
Well now, suspension has a half life of maybe 6 hours, anadrol.....12 hours, and winny....12 hours tops. So these are clearly faster choices than even the prop/fina combinations. And any experienced user knows that nothing blows you up faster than abombs and suspension........yes, you will lose a fair amount of the gains, and quickly, but that wasn't part of the question.
I would use at least 100 mg ED of the suspension and anadrol, and at least 50 mg. of the winny ED, if I only had 4 weeks to get the job done.
The winstrol, quite anabolic on it's own, will also compliment the anadrol by fighting off prog. gyno, and you know what to do about the sides of the test, I assume.
 
why would you loose suspension gains fast if your using clomid,zma,glutamine , and mad protein ? and suspensiopsn life is liek 10 hourse
 
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