Quick Question Regarding Test Prop

[Dirty Boy]

Cycle:
1-8 Test Cyp 500 mg/wk
2-8 Fina 75mg/ed
arimidex .5mg/ed (through clomid)
clomid therapy

I want to switch to test prop (basically so I can start clomid earlier). I understand test is test so would I use test prop at 500 mg/wk? If I used prop I would inject ed with the fina so that's around 70mg/ed.

Also, with the cyp i was going to frontload at 750mg/wk for the first two weeks. Do I need to frontload prop? I know prop has a shorter half life but I just want to make sure.

Thank you for your help. Also any cycle critiques would be greatly appreciated

21 yrs old
185lbs
5'11"
12% bf

Goals: Gain as much lean muscle as possible as this is my first cycle (bulking).

 

[Dirty Boy]

Any advice?

 

[Spidey]

That's a lot of gear for someone your size on his first cycle.

First off, test prop has a smaller molecular weight (344.49) than test cyp (412.60). What that means is you need proportionately less test prop to get the same serum testosterone increase as with test cyp; so you only need 83.4% as much test prop to get the same effect as test cyp. That translates to about 417 mg/week test prop=500 mg/week test cyp.

That being cleared up, IMO that's still too much gear. You should try running the fina at 50 to 75 mg/day to start and see how that goes for three weeks. Remember, tren ac is some 3 times as androgenic than test so running 75 mg/day fina is comparable to running 1.575 g test per week!! That's a lot of test my friend. Being your first cycle, you don't know how your body will react to all that extra androgenic activity. You just might want to try it out for a few weeks and see how you feel. You can always add a little test prop in later if your libido takes a dive or something. Also, TEST PROP HURTS LIKE A BITCH.

Hope this helps.


-Spidey

 

[Dirty Boy]

That does help. I really want to keep my libido so maybe I'll use prop sparingly. Thank you for your advice.

 

[Golfer18--old]

I agree with spidey a little too much gear. Try running the Fina at 40mgED or 80mgEOD. The arimidex will stop gyno but you will still bloat a little. The drugs are only as good as your diet/training. Good luck Db.

 

[Spidey]

I agree with spidey a little too much gear. Try running the Fina at 40mgED or 80mgEOD. The arimidex will stop gyno but you will still bloat a little. The drugs are only as good as your diet/training. Good luck Db.

Thanks for the back up but I must disagree a little here. Arimidex will do nothing for fina induced gyno.

Fina gyno is progesterone related, not estrogen related. Arimidex is an aromatase inhibitor that will prevent estrogen buildup. Not a problem with fina to begin with as fina does not aromatize. If he adds in the test prop at some later date he might want to keep an eye out for estrogen related bloat or gyno but as long as he keeps the dose of test prop low (30 to 50 mg ed), test related gyno shouldn't be a problem either.

A benefit of using test prop and fina is that they are both short acting esters too. If he starts to see problems, he can just quit taking them and both compounds will be out of his system in a couple of days. That should stop any gyno or bloat in its tracks.

Arimidex is expensive. Save it until you need it with a later cycle.

-Spidey