Questions regrading different PCT protocols

[Toogood]

I have been reading a lot on other forumes about PCT protocols. If someone could explain to me which PCT is better from experience that would be great.

Clomid and nolva combo? A lot of sites are BIG advocates to this protocol still..

Or unleashed, post cycle, clomid and forma stanzol?

Also is HCGenerate as effective as HCG on cycle? I have heard just to use either or the last two weeks of your cycle... But some people say to run it the whole cycle.. Which is needed and the most effective?

I just wanted to clear up a bunch of the contradictory statements being made and know which one is going to be the most effective for PCT

I am referring to PCT protocols with just a basic Test cycle.

 

[Jbranken]

I have been reading a lot on other forumes about PCT protocols. If someone could explain to me which PCT is better from experience that would be great.

Clomid and nolva combo? A lot of sites are BIG advocates to this protocol still..

This is an old school recovery combo that some guys just can't let go of. It works well for some guys but others get terrible sides like impotency and emotional issues on them. Some don't even recover. These drugs weren't created to recover our hpta though they do a decent job of binding to the AR.

They are trying to evolve the way pct is done on this board but you'll find that other boards refuse to try something new. After I did an all natural pct using mrsupps and n2bm products, I'll never go back to a SERM pct, but others still like using them. They still have a place I suppose but it's just not for me anymore.

Or unleashed, post cycle, clomid and forma stanzol?

Youll have a much better pct using this combo in my experience. I throw in other things too like DAA, test infusion, ostarine amongst other things; anything to help recovery and maintain my hard earned gains

Also is HCGenerate as effective as HCG on cycle? I have heard just to use either or the last two weeks of your cycle... But some people say to run it the whole cycle.. Which is needed and the most effective?

A lot of us don't like running hcg the entire cycle, rather blasting it at the end before pct. That's where hcgenerate comes in. You can run it your entire cycle and a few weeks before pct, blast your hcg around 1000IU each week

I just wanted to clear up a bunch of the contradictory statements being made and know which one is going to be the most effective for PCT

I am referring to PCT protocols with just a basic Test cycle.

I hope that helps

 

[Toogood]

I don't know if we can quote stuff from other sites but I just read a whole explanation why you shouldn't blast HCG during the PCT because basically HCG is suppressive... Thoughts?

Have you tried the nolva/clomid combo and compared it to the natural PCT EF advocates?

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Clomid and Nolva stimulate our own natural test production from the beginning of the process.. at the hypothalamus. But after the drugs are discontinued, the levels it raised your test will drop. But, using these drugs will help raise your test levels without suppressing you, and may shorten the period it takes for your body to fully recover.

The natural products will help elevate your test levels, and keep you feeling good while your body is recovering.

HCG should not be used for a long period of time.. and can be counter productive if used for two long. I do a short blast somewhere in the middle of the cycle, and then a short blast before PCT. You want to discontinue HCG use a few days before you start Clomid or Nolva.

In my opinion, you should do a combo of both of them.

 

[Lou Super Man 123]

The best PCT documented is the PoWeR PCT which consist of:

Day 0-20 : HCG 2000 IU EOD
Day 0-30 : Clomid 100 mg ED
Day 0-45 : Tamoxifen 40 mg ED

Starting 10-14 days after last injection if you were using Enanthate of Testosterone 500 mg a week.

 

[nickb86]

I don't know if we can quote stuff from other sites but I just read a whole explanation why you shouldn't blast HCG during the PCT because basically HCG is suppressive... Thoughts?

Have you tried the nolva/clomid combo and compared it to the natural PCT EF advocates?

You run in on cycle or blast it in the last few week leading up to your pct bro you do not want to use it inside the actual pct period it just gives you a nice kick-start to pct.

 

[Jbranken]

I don't know if we can quote stuff from other sites but I just read a whole explanation why you shouldn't blast HCG during the PCT because basically HCG is suppressive... Thoughts?

Have you tried the nolva/clomid combo and compared it to the natural PCT EF advocates?

Blast hcg before pct, not in pct. And yes I've used both pct's on multiple occasions and had much better recovery using natural supps as opposed to breast cancer drugs

 

[RickRock13]

Here is what I recommend for best recovery. The only thing I would add is possibly HCG as a kick start to PCT as well.

PCT


Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AG Guys)
Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
Test Stack 17 or PHYTOSERMS (see link below for info and discounts)
Ostarine 25mg per day (sarms1)

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html

Another effective PCT:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AG Guys)
Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
Unleashed (NTBM or MR Supps)
Test Infusion (MR Supps)
Forged Methyl EAA (MR Supps or NTBM)
Ostarine 25mg per day (sarms1)

Use RickRock10 at NTBM for 10% off

 

[Nelson Montana]

The best PCT documented is the PoWeR PCT which consist of:

Day 0-20 : HCG 2000 IU EOD
Day 0-30 : Clomid 100 mg ED
Day 0-45 : Tamoxifen 40 mg ED

Starting 10-14 days after last injection if you were using Enanthate of Testosterone 500 mg a week.

Horrible advice.

 

[infraredline]

The best PCT documented is the PoWeR PCT which consist of:

Day 0-20 : HCG 2000 IU EOD
Day 0-30 : Clomid 100 mg ED
Day 0-45 : Tamoxifen 40 mg ED

Starting 10-14 days after last injection if you were using Enanthate of Testosterone 500 mg a week.

Lol is this a joke?

Op this in my opinion is the best pct:

- torem 90/60/60/30 (unless using a 19-nor)
- unleashed
- post cycle
- d-aspartic acid 3g ed
- formastanzol 10 pumps daily

 

[dylangemelli]

The best PCT documented is the PoWeR PCT which consist of:

Day 0-20 : HCG 2000 IU EOD
Day 0-30 : Clomid 100 mg ED
Day 0-45 : Tamoxifen 40 mg ED

Starting 10-14 days after last injection if you were using Enanthate of Testosterone 500 mg a week.

please disregrd this advice... this is the worst layout i have seen in quite some time... you should NEVER use hcg in pct... beyond that, the clomid dosage is outrageous and so is the nolva for that long...