Questions about taking Beastdrol...

[ChrisUlrich]

First, between this, Katanadrol, Helladrol, and Dieselbolan 2.0... which is the strongest or do they all have different goals in mind?

I am 5'7" 165lbs and looking to gain a little weight but I mostly want to shed fat and put on lean muscle. Beastdrol seems to do exactly what I want. Gain some weight but mostly put on very lean muscle mass.

Right now i'm benching 230lbs 4x3. I'd love to get that up to 255 4x3 and get my singles to the 285lbs range.

Is 12 weeks is long enough in between 4 week cycles?

If I gained 13lbs and put the weight on my bench that I mentioned earlier... will I still gain PCT and when i'm off everything, completely? Or will I lose and have to regain naturally?

I know these questions are very novice but i've been reading and talking to people about all sorts of AAS and Beastdrol seems to be the route I want to take. But I want to clear up somethings before I take the dive into it. Any information would be helpful.

Also, I do have almost a full bottle of PhytoSerms and HCG on hand.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Bulk or cut....choose one and stick with it

In that case if you want to lean bulk then beastdrol is your best option here

For cutting go with katanadrol 2.0

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[ChrisUlrich]

What about stacking the two?

 

[gymjunkie09]

What about stacking the two?

you can do that as well but if you havn't used any of these products I would go with one for your first run

 

[stopstalking]

beastdrol is an excellent ph/ps. sounds like it is your first cycle ? if it is i would not recommend beastdrol.

If this is your first cycle i would go with helladrol or epi-strong. I would also recommend running transaderm on cycle as test base, and n2guard for cycle support.

phytoserms will be great in pct. is it hcgenerate you have or hcg ?

 

[deejleos]

I love beastrol 30mg for 4 weeks solid diet and exercise routine, and don't forget beastrol loves carbs, shit gives u legit strength and size!


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[ChrisUlrich]

HCGenerate. I thought HCG was HCGenerate... hahaha sorry.

Yea, this would be my first cycle. Why not Beastdrol for my first cycle? I thought Helladrol wasn't as good ast delivering great results?

I was planning to run Forged Liver Support, Transaderm, PhytoSerms-347, HCGenerate, and Forma-Stanozolo 1-4. Maybe some Arimidex and Nolva for PCT? Or Unleashed from NTBM. I haven't really found a PCT i'm comfortable with yet. Arimidex is in a lot of big PCTs so I might use that.

I haven't really worked out the details yet. Still trying to see what results are working best!

At 167lbs i'm decently lean. Would definitely like to be leaner. Putting on some weight really isn't a problem as long as I can cut down fat while doing it.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Adex is used on cycle not for pct and not needed for a beastdrol cycle. And phyto-serms 347 is a stand alone test booster

This is how a beastdrol cycle should look

Beast 2-3 ed week 1-4
N2guard 7caps ed 1-4
Hcgenerate 5caps ed 1-4


Pct
Post cycle/unleashed combo 5-8
Forma-stanozolo 5pumps a.m. 5pumps p.m.5-8

You can also run rs-transaderm on cycle for even better results


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[packers6211]

Beastdrol is amazing but def need some support supps like Liver aid or straight Milk thistle. This stuff had me lethargic but also increase my strength big time.

 

[stopstalking]

Adex is used on cycle not for pct and not needed for a beastdrol cycle. And phyto-serms 347 is a stand alone test booster

This is how a beastdrol cycle should look

Beast 2-3 ed week 1-4
N2guard 7caps ed 1-4
Hcgenerate 5caps ed 1-4


Pct Post cycle/unleashed combo 5-8
Forma-stanozolo 5pumps a.m. 5pumps p.m.5-8

You can also run rs-transaderm on cycle for even better result






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Beastdrol is a pretty intense first cycle. If you feel comfortable then go for it just listen to your body.

This setup looks good only thing I would change is take the hcgenerate out on cycle and save it for pct. Instead run transaderm on cycle


So like this
Beast 2-3 ed week 1-4
N2guard 7caps ed 1-4
Transaderm 5 pumps in am after shower everyday. 1-4

Hcgenerate 5-8
Pct Post cycle/unleashed combo 5-8
Forma-stanozolo 5pumps a.m. 5pumps p.m.5-8
Optional but I also run n2guard during pct

 

[gymjunkie09]

Beastdrol is a pretty intense first cycle. If you feel comfortable then go for it just listen to your body.

This setup looks good only thing I would change is take the hcgenerate out on cycle and save it for pct. Instead run transaderm on cycle


So like this
Beast 2-3 ed week 1-4
N2guard 7caps ed 1-4
Transaderm 5 pumps in am after shower everyday. 1-4

Hcgenerate 5-8
Pct Post cycle/unleashed combo 5-8
Forma-stanozolo 5pumps a.m. 5pumps p.m.5-8
Optional but I also run n2guard during pct

hcgenerate is ran on cycle for a reason. Would you run a test/deca/debol cycle and wait until pct to use hcg? think about bro......you can use hcgenerate for pct but it needs to be ran on cycle and is not needed for pct with this cycle

 

[stopstalking]

hcgenerate is ran on cycle for a reason. Would you run a test/deca/debol cycle and wait until pct to use hcg? think about bro......you can use hcgenerate for pct but it needs to be ran on cycle and is not needed for pct with this cycle

Sorry bro going to have to disagree with you here. Have your ever ran transaderm on cycle ? It works great as an on cycle test base. Hcgenerate will work great in pct to get things back to where they should be

 

[ChrisUlrich]

You guys ever run PhytoSerms with Beastdrol?

 

[NOS2.0]

If you use HCGenerate on cycle, you hvae have to "get things back where they should be", they will stay where they should.
It should be used to prevent shutdown, not to recover from it.
Maybe talk to the creator of the product.
To each his own.

 

[freakshow85]

And it actually does stop total shutdown. I don't have bloodtests, but after 2-2.5 weeks of Helladrol @ 100mg a day, I saw the obvious sign of shutdown. HCGenerate brought me back in 2 days and kept my boys dangling since, and I'm on week 6 of my cycle.

 

[stopstalking]

Hcgenerate is a great product but transaderm it better used on cclenas a test base and hcgenerate I'm pct. I rep for the company and would not b giving you info that wasn't true

 

[jester72]

Here's what I propose:

1-6 RS-Transaderm
3-6 Beastdrol
3-6 N2Guard
3-6 HCGenerate

7-10 Unleashed
7-10 Post-Cycle
7-10 Forma-Stanzol

Everything run at manufacturer recommended dosages.

RS-Transaderm gives you your test base. Use for 2 weeks prior to starting orals to get levels up and maintained. Beast is your choice for dosages, but 30mg daily is reasonable. N2Guard is hands down your best liver support. HCGenerate PREVENTS shutdown and testicular atrophy, making PCT much easier. It's NOT about benefiting from the test boost from HCGenerate, it's about preventing shutdown in the first place. Yes, Beast WILL shut you down.

PCT is a breeze with Unleashed and Post-Cycle, as you haven't let yourself get shut down in the 1st place. Forma-Stanzol for estrogen control, and to help dry/lean out your gains.

With good diet and training, I'd say 15 or so pounds of gain, keeping 80% or better with an easy PCT.

Between cycles, Bridge and Phytoserms-347 will keep you golden, and feeling like you were never "Off" cycle!

 

[mathew34]

beastdrol FTW!!

 

[stopstalking]

Here's what I propose:

1-6 RS-Transaderm
3-6 Beastdrol
3-6 N2Guard
3-6 HCGenerate

7-10 Unleashed
7-10 Post-Cycle
7-10 Forma-Stanzol

Everything run at manufacturer recommended dosages.

RS-Transaderm gives you your test base. Use for 2 weeks prior to starting orals to get levels up and maintained. Beast is your choice for dosages, but 30mg daily is reasonable. N2Guard is hands down your best liver support. HCGenerate PREVENTS shutdown and testicular atrophy, making PCT much easier. It's NOT about benefiting from the test boost from HCGenerate, it's about preventing shutdown in the first place. Yes, Beast WILL shut you down.

PCT is a breeze with Unleashed and Post-Cycle, as you haven't let yourself get shut down in the 1st place. Forma-Stanzol for estrogen control, and to help dry/lean out your gains.

With good diet and training, I'd say 15 or so pounds of gain, keeping 80% or better with an easy PCT.

Between cycles, Bridge and Phytoserms-347 will keep you golden, and feeling like you were never "Off" cycle!

Legit setup right here

 

[gymjunkie09]

Legit setup right here

so let me ask you something. How is this a legit set-up (which it is) when it's basically the same thing I layed for him but with RS-transaderm added? But you say the one I set up for him is wrong? you're confusing me bro.,.....I also rep NTBM by the way

 

[jester72]

so let me ask you something. How is this a legit set-up (which it is) when it's basically the same thing I layed for him but with RS-transaderm added? But you say the one I set up for him is wrong? you're confusing me bro.,.....I also rep NTBM by the way

Wasn't disrespecting your set-up at all gymjunkie. That was posted in response to stopstalking saying to use HCGenerate in PCT, and not on cycle. HCGen's function is to prevent and slow shutdown, not PCT it. Just didn't like the fact that he advocated RS-Transaderm on cycle, an HCGen in PCT, when BOTH should be run "On".

Just a poor job on my part making that point I think. I posted that half asleep from work.

 

[stopstalking]

so let me ask you something. How is this a legit set-up (which it is) when it's basically the same thing I layed for him but with RS-transaderm added? But you say the one I set up for him is wrong? you're confusing me bro.,.....I also rep NTBM by the way

Its not that your set up is wrong it's the fact that transaderm is a big plus on cycle. Every cycle should have some sort of test base and if your not gonna shoot up test cyp, test eth. Etc. Then transaderm is the way to go on cycle

 

[stopstalking]

so let me ask you something. How is this a legit set-up (which it is) when it's basically the same thing I layed for him but with RS-transaderm added? But you say the one I set up for him is wrong? you're confusing me bro.,.....I also rep NTBM by the way

Also I wasn't trying to come off rude or question your judgement. I follow a lot of threads on this forum and know you have your stuff together. I guess I'm just huge on having a test base on cycle

 

[gymjunkie09]

Wasn't disrespecting your set-up at all gymjunkie. That was posted in response to stopstalking saying to use HCGenerate in PCT, and not on cycle. HCGen's function is to prevent and slow shutdown, not PCT it. Just didn't like the fact that he advocated RS-Transaderm on cycle, an HCGen in PCT, when BOTH should be run "On".

Just a poor job on my part making that point I think. I posted that half asleep from work.

That wasn't directed at you at all bro, it's all good

 

[gymjunkie09]

Its not that your set up is wrong it's the fact that transaderm is a big plus on cycle. Every cycle should have some sort of test base and if your not gonna shoot up test cyp, test eth. Etc. Then transaderm is the way to go on cycle

I understand that, if you noticed at the bottom of the cycle I setup for him....I said "you can also add RS-transaderm". The whole disagreement was about running hcgenerate on cycle or in pct that's why I was confused when you said the cycle jester layed out was legit because it had hcgenerate weeks 3-6 with beastdrol and not in pct when you're saying that hcgenerate needs to be run in pct.

 

[stopstalking]

I understand that, if you noticed at the bottom of the cycle I setup for him....I said "you can also add RS-transaderm". The whole disagreement was about running hcgenerate on cycle or in pct that's why I was confused when you said the cycle jester layed out was legit because it had hcgenerate weeks 3-6 with beastdrol and not in pct when you're saying that hcgenerate needs to be run in pct.

Hcgenerate is a must have in Pct but I think it is a solid addition to any pct.

 

[NOS2.0]

HCGenerate on cycle for sure, if you have the cash in PCT its good too.

 

[lweaver]

NTBM seems to be out of the beast...do you recommend mrsupps?

 

[gymjunkie09]

NTBM seems to be out of the beast...do you recommend mrsupps?

Yes...mrsupps is good to go

Discount code needto10
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[lweaver]

Thanks, and where can I get HCgenerate? I think it's the only item listed that isnt in the mrsupps starter pack.

 

[NOS2.0]

Orbit has Beast a little cheaper. PLus he has the Transaderm a bit cheaper.
Orbit109 for 5% off.
NTBM for the HCGenerate, N2Guard, Unleashed/Post cycle
Radar15 for 15% off.
Mrsupps for the Formastanzol
Needto139 for 10% off.

 

[ChrisUlrich]

Here's what I propose:

1-6 RS-Transaderm
3-6 Beastdrol
3-6 N2Guard
3-6 HCGenerate

7-10 Unleashed
7-10 Post-Cycle
7-10 Forma-Stanzol

Everything run at manufacturer recommended dosages.

RS-Transaderm gives you your test base. Use for 2 weeks prior to starting orals to get levels up and maintained. Beast is your choice for dosages, but 30mg daily is reasonable. N2Guard is hands down your best liver support. HCGenerate PREVENTS shutdown and testicular atrophy, making PCT much easier. It's NOT about benefiting from the test boost from HCGenerate, it's about preventing shutdown in the first place. Yes, Beast WILL shut you down.

PCT is a breeze with Unleashed and Post-Cycle, as you haven't let yourself get shut down in the 1st place. Forma-Stanzol for estrogen control, and to help dry/lean out your gains.

With good diet and training, I'd say 15 or so pounds of gain, keeping 80% or better with an easy PCT.

Between cycles, Bridge and Phytoserms-347 will keep you golden, and feeling like you were never "Off" cycle!

Thanks for the overwhelming replies everyone! I really appreciate all the input.

The cycle mentioned above is probably what i'm gonna go with. I like the idea of running a test base and trying to keep everything as level and EASY as possible for my body.

When you say i'll keep 80% of my gains... do you mean body weight wise or weight on my lifts?

 

[jester72]

Thanks for the overwhelming replies everyone! I really appreciate all the input.

The cycle mentioned above is probably what i'm gonna go with. I like the idea of running a test base and trying to keep everything as level and EASY as possible for my body.

When you say i'll keep 80% of my gains... do you mean body weight wise or weight on my lifts?

I mean muscle gain when I say 80%. You'll probably lose a little on your lifts, but not much.

Remember, the Beast needs to be fed, and loves good carbs! You'll also need to continue eating during and after your PCT as well. All that new muscle needs to be fed. If you don't eat well and eat big, don't expect to keep gains.

 

[ChrisUlrich]

Oh man... really? That's gotta freakin suck! So then how do you gain when you're off it? Or do you just maintain while off and go up while on at that point? I mean, there's no way i'm ever going up 40lbs on anything in a month after i've already kind plateaued on a certain exercise. That's totally absurd! 5lbs gain on anything i'm doing would be nice!

 

[NOS2.0]

you can expect about 10lbs usually from beast, if you eat and train like a beast.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Also I wasn't trying to come off rude or question your judgement. I follow a lot of threads on this forum and know you have your stuff together. I guess I'm just huge on having a test base on cycle

It's all good bro were all fam here

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[gymjunkie09]

Oh man... really? That's gotta freakin suck! So then how do you gain when you're off it? Or do you just maintain while off and go up while on at that point? I mean, there's no way i'm ever going up 40lbs on anything in a month after i've already kind plateaued on a certain exercise. That's totally absurd! 5lbs gain on anything i'm doing would be nice!

You gain when you're off by running a proper pct,good diet, and continue training with intensity.
That's what its all about on cycle or off
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[ChrisUlrich]

I like to think I train hard. My diet isn't perfect but it's definitely better than the average lifter. I cheat too much. I have a high metabolism so I don't really get fat. But I know i;m hurting my chances of getting leaner when doing so.

But if I do the cycle and PCT mentioned... the numbers COULD and SHOULD look like this if it goes well?

Just using bench as an example since it's everyone's favorite lift.

230 4x3

260-270 4x3

Off cycle and now PCT

250-260 4x3 after a couple of weeks?

That just seems so demoralizing... don't it? Is there a way to keep all gains made on a 4 week cycle of Beastdrol?

 

[freakshow85]

You won't necessarily get weaker after you are off. You will lose a few pounds, though. Just keep the intensity up and also make sure you are getting enough calories for your newly aquired muscle.