Question on First Cycle

[wguttrid]

Hello Started first cycle of Sus250 (250mg once week) and Deca (400mg once a week) last week. This is now going to be coming up to my second week but have a question. Thinking about increaing the Sus to 375mg (125mg EOD). Is this recomemebded. Have been reading that it is best to increase the injections due to the short acting esters. Here is how I am thinking of changing my 10 week cycle.

Week 1 - Mon. Sus 250mg, Wed Deca 400mg
(This is where I want to start changing it
Week 2 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 3 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 4 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 5 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 6 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 7 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 8 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 9 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 10 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg

What do people think, should I go to this or stay with my current 250mg Sus?

If I do make the change this is what I will stay with, know it is not advisable to jump around on mg/week to keep sides down.

Thanks,

 

[riverrock]

Sustanon comes in 250mg Amps. Your must be confusing these Amps with Testosterone Propionate which come in 75mg Amps. Anyhow, apart from that, I trhink you would be very wise to do a Test only cycle first. In fact, I would recommend that you only use the Sustanon this time out. Keep the Deca for your second cycle. A simple cycle that would work very well for a newbee would be:

Week 1 - 10: Sustanon * 500 mg per week. (Take a 250mg Amp on Monday and another 250mg Amp on Thursday)

Week 13 start your PCT (sut stays active for 3-4 weeks after last injection so don't atart PCT until then) A simple PCT would be one clomid tablet per day for 4 weeks.

 

[hammertime30]

Hello Started first cycle of Sus250 (250mg once week) and Deca (400mg once a week) last week. This is now going to be coming up to my second week but have a question. Thinking about increaing the Sus to 375mg (125mg EOD). Is this recomemebded. Have been reading that it is best to increase the injections due to the short acting esters. Here is how I am thinking of changing my 10 week cycle.

Week 1 - Mon. Sus 250mg, Wed Deca 400mg
(This is where I want to start changing it
Week 2 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 3 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 4 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 5 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 6 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 7 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 8 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 9 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg
Week 10 - Mon. Sus 125mg, Wed Deca 400mg / Sus 125mg, Fri. Sus 125mg

What do people think, should I go to this or stay with my current 250mg Sus?

If I do make the change this is what I will stay with, know it is not advisable to jump around on mg/week to keep sides down.

Thanks,

First cycle run test only with maybe some dbol for a kick start to see how you tolerate estrogen based compounds....after that you can try deca which is progestrone based that way if your nipples begin to tingle you will know where it's coming from.............Sus 500mg is a great starter.............

 

[savage1026]

^^agreed.

 

[anthony518]

Yeah, go with the sust only. and take it twice a week. Mon thrus.

 

[sixfoot2whiteboy]

your shootin 4cc's of deca in 1 shot? thats not to good you should split it up and not inject more than 3cc at a time especially if its your first cycle

 

[wnt2bBeast]

drop the deca save it for another cycle..
go with the sust 500mg/wk assuming you have enough for a 10 week cycle

 

[wguttrid]

Thanks for the information, to add the deca i have is 10ml vials at 200mg=1ml. I am taking a 400mg =2cc injection every week.
The Sus250 I have are the 1ml/1cc ampules.

Also have already started last week so going to continue with the deca and sus cycle, what I mainly am wondering about is that I have heard I should proabably increase Sus closer to what I am taking for Deca, also have heard that Sus is good EOD. Don't want to take 500mg a week so was thinking about splitting it up into three injections of 125mg=.5cc a week (375mg total). This 375mg would bring me closer to what I am taking in Deca but still not too high for my first cycle.

What do people think.

Do have clomid on hand for possible side effects.

 

[wguttrid]

Was just thinking (apologize for asking another question), or would it be ok if I stay with my current 250mg of Sus a week and instead of injecting it all at once, could I say inject half the amp on monday and the other half on Thursday to try and get the most out of Sus due to the short acting esters.


Thanks, again.

 

[wguttrid]

Hi guys going to be picking up this weekend enough Sus to allow for 500mg a week. Not sure if I will take that much might just save it for another cycle.

Still wondering if I should try

One) 3 x 125mg = 375mg injections a week
Two) Split the 250mg into two shots a week
Three) or stay with one shot of 250mg a week.

Really not sure what to do. Spoke to a buddy this weekend and he recomemend I increase it but give my current 250mg shot another week to see how my body will react to it beings this is my first cycle and then increase in the third week.

Any adivce and thoughts.

 

[slat1]

Hi guys going to be picking up this weekend enough Sus to allow for 500mg a week. Not sure if I will take that much might just save it for another cycle.

Still wondering if I should try

One) 3 x 125mg = 375mg injections a week
Two) Split the 250mg into two shots a week
Three) or stay with one shot of 250mg a week.

Really not sure what to do. Spoke to a buddy this weekend and he recomemend I increase it but give my current 250mg shot another week to see how my body will react to it beings this is my first cycle and then increase in the third week.

Any adivce and thoughts.

I would just stick with 250mgs a week. Use the deca on your next cycle. You can either do one shot a week or do 125mgs twice a week.
If you don't like the results you can increase the amount on you next cycle. You have your whole life to get into the shape you want. Don't overdue it right away. Take your time...

 

[iamnikvanhelsing]

I agree with Slatl. 250mg will be enough first time round, and don't worry about the different half lifes of the Esters as they work together in that the faster acting one, Propionate, kicks in in just a day or two followed by the other three that literally kick in one after the other giving Sus250 the ability to start working straight away and last for up to 4 weeks. And as far as the Deca is concerned I'd keep it till next time, you won't need it on your first cycle.

 

[wls8687]

Sustanon comes in 250mg Amps. Your must be confusing these Amps with Testosterone Propionate which come in 75mg Amps. Anyhow, apart from that, I trhink you would be very wise to do a Test only cycle first. In fact, I would recommend that you only use the Sustanon this time out. Keep the Deca for your second cycle. A simple cycle that would work very well for a newbee would be:

Week 1 - 10: Sustanon * 500 mg per week. (Take a 250mg Amp on Monday and another 250mg Amp on Thursday)

Week 13 start your PCT (sut stays active for 3-4 weeks after last injection so don't atart PCT until then) A simple PCT would be one clomid tablet per day for 4 weeks.

Anyhow, how would he inject 125mg even if Propionate come's in 75mg concentrations?