Question for clockwork??

[Kano]

Bro do you feel at all that your steriod use contribied to you getting cancer even in the slighest bit? For everyone else before the shit starts i am not knocking anything i am asking clockwork his option only i am not judgeing anything or anyone... I love the guy he is hot.

 

[Jon79]

i think he was saying he was goin to ask his doc's if they think it was related

 

[the_clockwork]

I believe it had something to do with it. I use to boost my test so high I couldn't imagine it didn't have an affect on it

 

[Lestat]

tom green got nut cancer too and he didn't use juice. shit just happens.

 

[Tytan]

Damn man, Still got you in my prayers.

 

[the_clockwork]

tom green got nut cancer too and he didn't use juice. shit just happens.

My cousin got lung cancer and never touched a cigarette or anything in his life, so cigarette's aren't the cause for cancer?

 

[Kano]

i love you clockwork... i am glad you are doing okay

 

[Mr. Black]

So are you planning on getting your test levels tested soon?

 

[Cutiebaby]

wow Interesting ?..
When you get the results of the test levels and also the response from your doctor post it up in here. I am interested in knowing what he has to say....

 

[time]

yea you still in my thoughts too bro.. keep on movennn bro. HEAD UP HIGH!

 

[javaguru]

My cousin got lung cancer and never touched a cigarette or anything in his life, so cigarette's aren't the cause for cancer?

Asbestos as well as other airborne carcinogens and genetics are also linked to lung cancer.

There is no evidence linking steroids to testicular cancer.
http://www.mdanderson.org/diseases/...8d5f-11d4-80f800508b603a14&method=displayfull
"Risk factors for testicular cancer include:

Age: testicular cancer is most common in adolescents and young adults up to age 40. It is the most common form of cancer in young men.
Family history: if a man has testicular cancer, his male relatives are at increased risk.
Cryptorchidism: a condition in which one or both of the testicles fail to descend from the abdomen into the scrotum during infancy. Cryptorchidism is associated with about 14% of testicular cancer cases.
Prior cancer history: a man who has had cancer in one testicle has a higher risk of getting it in the remaining testicle than someone who's never had testicular cancer.
Other possible risk factors include the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), injury to the testicles and vasectomies, but to date, studies have not found a clear association between these conditions and testicular cancer. "

 

[Kano]

Asbestos as well as other airborne carcinogens and genetics are also linked to lung cancer.

There is no evidence linking steroids to testicular cancer.
http://www.mdanderson.org/diseases/...8d5f-11d4-80f800508b603a14&method=displayfull
"Risk factors for testicular cancer include:

Age: testicular cancer is most common in adolescents and young adults up to age 40. It is the most common form of cancer in young men.
Family history: if a man has testicular cancer, his male relatives are at increased risk.
Cryptorchidism: a condition in which one or both of the testicles fail to descend from the abdomen into the scrotum during infancy. Cryptorchidism is associated with about 14% of testicular cancer cases.
Prior cancer history: a man who has had cancer in one testicle has a higher risk of getting it in the remaining testicle than someone who's never had testicular cancer.
Other possible risk factors include the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), injury to the testicles and vasectomies, but to date, studies have not found a clear association between these conditions and testicular cancer. "

lol @studies.. for every study out there there is ten more saying the oppisites..

 

[jh1]

Are ya gonna ever juice again?

 

[binö]

lol @studies.. for every study out there there is ten more saying the oppisites..

and i really doubt their is many long term health studies of aa.s

 

[the_clockwork]

Asbestos as well as other airborne carcinogens and genetics are also linked to lung cancer.

There is no evidence linking steroids to testicular cancer.
http://www.mdanderson.org/diseases/...8d5f-11d4-80f800508b603a14&method=displayfull
"Risk factors for testicular cancer include:

Age: testicular cancer is most common in adolescents and young adults up to age 40. It is the most common form of cancer in young men.
Family history: if a man has testicular cancer, his male relatives are at increased risk.
Cryptorchidism: a condition in which one or both of the testicles fail to descend from the abdomen into the scrotum during infancy. Cryptorchidism is associated with about 14% of testicular cancer cases.
Prior cancer history: a man who has had cancer in one testicle has a higher risk of getting it in the remaining testicle than someone who's never had testicular cancer.
Other possible risk factors include the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), injury to the testicles and vasectomies, but to date, studies have not found a clear association between these conditions and testicular cancer. "

yes I'm well aware of the studies but they don't cover outliers... link me some studies on excessive steroid use (which happens to increase testostrone, which happens to be produced in the testicles) and I'll believe it. There is no way to have a study and control every outlier on the map to say this is the route of cancer

 

[javaguru]

yes I'm well aware of the studies but they don't cover outliers... link me some studies on excessive steroid use (which happens to increase testostrone, which happens to be produced in the testicles) and I'll believe it. There is no way to have a study and control every outlier on the map to say this is the route of cancer

When Dennis Newman came down with Leukemia years ago he asked his oncologists about his leukemia and they said that steroids had nothing to do with it but his HGH abuse MIGHT have encouraged it's growth. When SI published the article where a former teammate of Lance Armstrong claimed that steroid's caused Armstrong's testicular cancer there was a general outcry by MD's about the recklessness of SI in even publishing it since there was zero link established, not a single study.

Cancer is one of those diseases that bite you in the ass ten or more years after the fact. Someone doesn't pick up smoking for two years and get lung cancer in the third year. Likewise, if there was a causality you would expect high rates of testicular cancer among pro bodybuilders. The biggest risk factor is being a caucasian, which makes you 5-10x more likely than an African American male and 2x the chance as an Asian. Another emerging link is HIV, you might want to get tested.