Question about taking prohormones before steroids

[nickster#1]

dude that whole fresh receptors deal is just kind of bullshit. your receptors are your receptors they haven't been fresh since they've existed in your body they've been used. ever since the womb your body has been exposed to testosterone, dht and other androgens it's not like using steroids is the first time you introduce these substances, everyone uses steroids, it's called puberty.

that being said yeah after each cycle you have to up the dosages, however there are mitigating factors generally the more you use with less time in between builds up a "tolerance" because your body tries to reach homeostasis by adjusting other metabolic factors to compensate for massive gear usage.

in other words if it's been a while (year or so) since you used a PH you might as well be a "virgin" and you can put 20+ pounds on your first cycle with 500mg test and maybe a dbol kicker or some deca, that is if you eat enough.

BADDA BING BABY,,,,, WELL SAID.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Dermacrine is suppressive, but i imagine if i did UNLEASHED/BIG BLAST/VIGOR/Amp02/Lipoflame/RawMCC i would be at 195 in no time, im 180 right now 5'9" 10% BF. I might just do that, should be a good log.

Oh and idk which one it was but on POST-CYCLE/Sustain Alpha amd i felt GREAT, no crash, harder muscles, more/longer erections, hmm exactly what its supposed to do. Wouldnt of wanted to take anything else, so its good i can vouch for OTC supps for PCT.

Yes, Dermacrine can be suppressive. I should have said Sustain. However, UNLEASHED/BIG BLAST/VIGOR are all non suppressive and yeah, will bring great gains.

Glad to hear POST CYCLE worked out for you.

 

[SouthernLord]

DO NOT use PROHORMONES

if you do I wont train you IMMEBZ

Supps at your age are MORE then enough and the TRAINING Method

Omega is the Man!!! These guys are right on as usual. I wouldn't worry too much about that cycle of Cyclo as it is about as mild of a DS as you can get. That being said you are just a youngster and the proper training(Omega), diet, and supplements will put you way ahead in your development. Save the high octane stuff until you are mid to late 20's.

 

[immebz]

Ok, thanks everyone, i guess my main concern was wether ill still be able to train natty and gain. I did a bottle of ACL tren and ah-89 before, but there stuff is legit and i dont notice anything that would be associated with low test levels.

Thank you NELSON: POST CYCLE worked. enough said

Omega: Cant wait to get ridiculous gains, gonna be patoent with it and give 110% in everything you tell me to do.

SL: Thanks for the advice as usual, this place is seriously fuckin awesome. IM gonna go drink some beers but once im on OMega its totally different. Im the next alpha/omega

 

[eddymerckx]

DO NOT use PROHORMONES

if you do I wont train you IMMEBZ

Supps at your age are MORE then enough and the TRAINING Method

treat this advice like gold bro--OMEGA will help you get to where you want to be, but don't substitute anyones' advice for his--and you will grow like a weed.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

A young guy who has just done PH's is the perfect subject to show the superirity of supplements. Invest in a UNLEASHED/BIG BLAST/VIGOR stack using Lipoflame and ZIP during workouts, andAMp02 and Dermacrine afterward. WOW, I bet that would blow away an PH stack and it's 100% non suppressive.

^^^
best natural stack right here

 

[GoldenDelicious]

pharmacist.

using prohormones is really stupid.

the bottom line is that no matter how you increase your androgen levels (prohormones or steroids) your body will resist that change by decreasing endogenous production of testosterone.

if you use prohormones, you cant acurately predict how much (or little) yorue going to increase your androgen levels by - but no matter how much you do, your body will CERTAINLY react by decreasing testosterone production, which means that yorue certainly going to face testicular supression when you stop using the prohormones

now does that sound like a smart thing to do? use prohormones and MAYBE end up with more androgens in your body, and therefore MAYBE benefit with a little growth, and in exchange for that, youll DEFINITELY get testicular supression?

if yorue going tlay with your hormones, use proper steroids. at least then you know what he hell is going on in your body, and can make some informed decisions.

oh and listen to omega. if you dont need them, dont use them.

cheerios

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Prohormones are steroids. No difference but an official Rx on the bottle.

 

[immebz]

Prohormones are steroids. No difference but an official Rx on the bottle.

of course, im jus talking about designer steroids as to pharmaceutical steroids.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Prohormones are steroids. No difference but an official Rx on the bottle.

19-Norandrosta 4,9 Diene 3, 17 Dione: From what I read is a Schedule III Steriod, I wonder if people would be bashing things like this if it was never marketed as a PH first and they heard is was a "Steroid" off the bat.


-Legacy