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question about faith in god

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i myself do not personally believe in a deity or such, but i am curious of those that do believe in a god, here is a question

do you find that practicing a faith or religion makes your life better than otherwise?

for instance, does it make you feel happy on a regular basis, do you have much anxiety, do you feel in control of your life, etc.

just give me some details on how your mental and emotional outlook is if you have "religion".
 
I don't see my convictions as providing happiness, per say. They are part of who I am. I honestly believe that there is a God, and that He listens to all those who talk to Him. I cannot explain His actions, nor do I attempt to question them. But, on several occasions, I have noticed after going back to church after a long lapse, that things seem to go better for a while. Take that for what you will, but I see it as a sign. And don't worry, no offense taken.
 
dread_lady said:
i myself do not personally believe in a deity or such, but i am curious of those that do believe in a god, here is a question

do you find that practicing a faith or religion makes your life better than otherwise?

for instance, does it make you feel happy on a regular basis, do you have much anxiety, do you feel in control of your life, etc.

just give me some details on how your mental and emotional outlook is if you have "religion".
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It has been shown that having religion helps people with both happiness and fewer health problems.

Since I am God...I must believe in him. :D
 
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Test boy said:
It has been shown that having religion helps people with both happiness and fewer health problems.

Since I am God...I must believe in him. :D
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i see, :>
but i thought Dread Lord was god :o
 
i feel overall better inside when i goto church,im in a much better state of mind and yes i find things seem much better,although i sin like you wouldnt believe im only human,but expressing faith and religion helps make life happier
 
spentagn said:
I don't see my convictions as providing happiness, per say. They are part of who I am. I honestly believe that there is a God, and that He listens to all those who talk to Him. I cannot explain His actions, nor do I attempt to question them. But, on several occasions, I have noticed after going back to church after a long lapse, that things seem to go better for a while. Take that for what you will, but I see it as a sign. And don't worry, no offense taken.
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I totaly agree, also to me having faith in god is not something you practice. It just as much part of your life as say . . . breathing.
 
Kryp2o said:


I totaly agree, also to me having faith in god is not something you practice. It just as much part of your life as say . . . breathing.
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True, but breathing ceases with life. :)
 
dread_lady said:
if you could, let's say, have a clean slate
how would you know what direction to go with your beliefs?
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if i could have a clean slate i would stop doing all th bad things i do,the drugs,the sex,just all the bullshit that i do,thats pretty much the only thing i could try to do
 
The Canadian Oak said:


if i could have a clean slate i would stop doing all th bad things i do,the drugs,the sex,just all the bullshit that i do,thats pretty much the only thing i could try to do
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but what would motivate you to do that?
how would that make you feel better or happier ?
 
The Canadian Oak said:
i feel overall better inside when i goto church,im in a much better state of mind and yes i find things seem much better,although i sin like you wouldnt believe im only human,but expressing faith and religion helps make life happier
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I agree with Oak here. When I was a kid we went to church every weekend when we stayed with my father. Once I was in HS I only went for holidays. But I did have a prayer that I read each night before I went to sleep during a rough time in 10th grade. I have been suffering from panic and anxiety for a year now and I find that when I do get a chance to get into church, I feel I guess spiritually cleansed, if that makes sense. I feel better and things seem to be brighter. It's been one of resolutions to get to church more often...
 
i really dont think i could answer that,i know it would be nice to start over but i dont know what would keep me from doing the exact same crap i am,maybe if i could start life over but we wont get into my screwed up childhood and lack of disapline by parents
 
i appreciate the repllies

i may not reply much aftre this tonight, as i am occupied by guests for the night... so hope to see more replies

more details please!

be more religion specific and why oyou feel comfortable with that religion and why it is "yours"
or just this general faith/spiritual stuff
where do you start with this?>
 
keep this bumped for musclebrains. he's a very spiritual person, and usually respectful of others' opinions.
 
At the age 14 or so I was a very bad kid that needed some serious direction. I was hanging around the wrong people and i ended up in jail one day, and my parents picked me up, and i realized that i wasnt happy and i needed some guidance.

my parents are muslim but i didnt want to blindly follow a faith, so i started learning about 3 religions that interested me, Christianity, judaism and islam. I liked all 3 religions, but i chose islam becauese i felt that it was the best for me.

since then, i have been very calm, controlled, and fearless. nothing scares me, i am very daring and nothing really bothers me because i see all my hardships as merely God's way of testing my faith. So practicing islam has made my life a lot better. I have much better morals, i dont steal, cheat or lie because i try to live life where i imagine that God is by at all times and even though i cant see Him, i know he can see me so i try not to do fucked up shit. Even though i slip at times and fuck around w girls (premarital sex is a sin in my religion!) i repent and try to live a pure life.

But I have no anxiety, and a lot of control. I fear nothing and i feel like i can handle the worst that comes my direction and this is only due to my faith in God.
Mentally, I feel i can accomplish anything, and i feel the best, and i am emotionally great.

Also, I have christian and jewish freinds that actually practice their religions, and i see them living great lives so i think religions help people improve thier lives.

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i think it gives people a since of moral values and a general guideline to live by. the ten commandments come to mind. i also think it gives people a sence of peace. for me it's a part of me. i've grown up in the church but i have my own mind. i don't let men or women tell me what to believe. i don't consider myself religious as religious folk follow too many rules, they are rules man has conjured up as well as interpeting what the bible(or koran). the way i see it, jesus was a rebel of sorts. he rebelled against the religious leaders of the day to bring the truth and the new testament to people. well, much like today i don't follow the crowd. if i see something that is'nt my cup of tea though many of my fellow christians are into it i just shy away from it. i don't think being a good little church boy or girl is the answer. you need to find a level of spirituality and build on that. yes i believe going to church is part of the equation, we are commanded to attand church, but i also think you don't have to go everytime the doors are open. many people do. you just have to find your place and work with it. i'm still in the process of doing so.
 
dread_lady said:
if you could, let's say, have a clean slate
how would you know what direction to go with your beliefs?
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Being raised in the N. Texas bible belt I am all too familiar with the pressure one faces to have god in your life from a very young age-but my parents were realists-scientists who only believe that which is proven over time. God or no god you can go to church with people and feel a little better-we are social beings. But it does nothing for me. never has. I feel worse. I see the history of violence and bloodshed religion brings to this planet and just want to ask everyone WHY? Our fore-fathers(Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, Adams, Lincoln, ect ect ect) distinctively and publicly condemned religion as a waste of time. Even if one could prove there was a god, no religion in this world has accurately delivered a true and humane message that promotes peace, freedom and diversity. So, if you ask, I say don't waste your time unless it is for someone you care about. For clarity, and when I feel alone because everyone else in the world is an idiot, (not true but we all feel that way sometimes) I go here or someplace else on the net like :
http://www.geocities.com/area51/corridor/1491/famousathiest.htm#lincoln
 
brainiac said:
jeez. is that all you have? Trivial one, aren't you? [/B]
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No, I've responded a couple of times to this thread already. If I thought it were necessary to judge religious opinions I'd live in Iraq. I'll assume your second question is rhetorical, so I won't answer it.
 
daised said:
i personally feel spirituality is more important than religious practices.
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yeah, I agree. I belong to no religion; they are money makers. But I am a beleiver and deeply spiritual. I live by the bible and it brings me a lot of things; safety, happiness, helps me go through the temptations. I am a christian and I want to follow the truth, the narrow path that Jesus himself showed us to take. I am not perfect, nobody is. I might be doing something wrong right because I am currently thinking about something bad but as long as you beleive and accept that Jesus died to save us and we are in the time of grace; you'll be saved. I ask forgiveness all the time because I know I can; God will always forgive me.

Don't flame me becaue I am serious, this is why he asked about this thread. Posts serious only; this is exactly what I gave you all.
 
omar said:
Also, I have christian and jewish freinds that actually practice their religions, and i see them living great lives so i think religions help people improve thier lives.
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I agree with you totally but there are many people and many religions that do not accept those who don't follow their religions. We can't judge people and I am proud to see you respect us all. This is why I say I am only a christian; every religion did something bad at one time and is asking us money. I only follow the bible and do my prayers at home. And remember, you are not perfect and you must recognize that; it's ok to have fears sometimes and fight them. God will always forgive you but there is one thing that you can't come back on: don't ever turn your back on the saint spirit. This is the greatest gift you have ever received, this is what allows you to understand acheive good things.
 
I believe only the visible truth and that which has been proven true over time. So the current conglomerates of belief currently have no place with "god", a set of absurd "sins" or simple "faith" in my life.

We inherit our opinions, for the most part, and are heirs to our providers habits and customs. Our beliefs, like our accents and clothing, depend a lot upon where we were born.

As a rule, children love their parents, believe what they teach and take great pride in saying the religion of their mother is good enough for them.

All of these comforting and reasonable things were thought by ministers in their pulpits, by teachers in Sunday school, by parents at home and now the Gov't and mass media. Most of us were assaulted with this belief system long before we could rationalize-thus etching a system of lies in our heads that make it difficult to see truth, right and wrong until the day we die.

Religions are all alike, built on fear and superstitions during the intellectual immaturity of the world. And the underlying effect is always mind control. Fear is the parent of cruelty. So it should be no wonder religion and cruelty go hand in hand.

So, I do believe in the idea of God, just not as an entity but as simple nature. We will figure it all out soon, if the desperate monkey ass churches will ever just get off our scientists' backs...
 
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I belive in Deism, a theory that God created the Universe and then backed away from it, thus giving us Free Will. But I also belive that God comes to those that need Gods Direction, ie , She/He? is there if you really need Him/Her..... I think organized religion is.... not my cup of tea.... But I attend 12 step meetings, not really to keep clean/sober, but to help me find the path that God wants me to walk....
 
What a great question!!!!!

My personal relationship with Jesus provides me with much joy and guidance in my day to day walk through life.

It's called the Joy of the Lord!

He helps me with relationships and all decisions that make(when I am smart enough to listen)

A relationship with Christ is free to all----all one need do is ask.

Revelation 3:20 states -- Behold I stand at the door and knock. If anyone open the door and let me in, I will fellowship with him and he with Me.

Isn't that great!!!!!

Upon making this decision, one is not expected to be perfect, but rather to believe in Jesus, that He is the son of God, that He died for our sins, and that He rose from the grave and abides by the Father in our behalf. It is a walk that involves growth and progress---not instant perfection.------He just wants a relationship with His creation---us!!!!!!



To walk with the Lord, for me, is to maximize my life on earth and also provides me with the confidence that I will be with Him when this life is over!!!!

AWESOME

HM
 
brainiac said:

Our fore-fathers(Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, Adams, Lincoln, ect ect ect) distinctively and publicly condemned religion as a waste of time.
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Our fore-fathers left England and came here because of religeous persecution.
 
We can debate who our fore fathers were till we are all blue in the face. I am talking about the men who built this country and its political system. Not a bunch of warped-uneducated pilgrims who burned women at the stake because they though they were witches...
 
Its impossible to "LABEL" my beliefs and faith simply because it is mine. I have had many influences from around the globe, however, its still my own faith. Funny thing is that I can defend it to a T, thats why it feels right. Science only proves my personal beliefs. Many believe science goes against many religions when in fact science helps prove it, especially if one is looking at in the original manner it was supposed to be viewed. For the past hundreds of years Religion has been labeled improperly in my opinion, there are names, faces, etc that are all false. Take God for example, when people think of God, they think of a man with a white beard, sittin in a chair with clouds around him. Or the face of Jesus for example, that came from the second son of Po Alexander and a certain Caesar. Everything is changed to suit the environment of today, to suit the people that let others think for them, for the mentally dead if you will. Its impossible to define God, the mind of a human can't possibly come close to it, you can't even fathom a minor spec of what God is, to say the God is beyond you is almost an insult, not only is God beyond you to the fullest extent and your most intricate thoughts, God is..........? Well I can't even come up with a proper word, one doesnt exist and never will. God is in everything, you just have to know how to look, anything you or any other human have ever conceived is because of God. God is what he is. An entity beyond all others, the beginning and the end. God is draped in Mystery. In ancient times, the stories of gods developed, many gods always said there names, well that gave them away in a certain aspect, gave them a type of ownership and left the mystery known. The God in which the Bible speaks of says "I am who I am" never giving anything away. Again, regardless if you believe in the Bible, one can't deny that it is a very interesting read with Wisdom of the Ages inside. True Wisdom that comes through knowing yourself, which stems from God's blessing of insight. We(humans) came from somewhere, that somewhere is God, God doesnt have to be this or that, God is what he is. People make things difficult when it really isnt, let the obvious happen by freeing your mind, get out of the mental slavery you have chained yourself up in. For me, my beliefs bring a feeling of righeousness and natural like state of "how I am supposed to be and my purpose on this earth", stop complaining, be humble, realize your worrying is worthless, don't live the way everyone else lives, your trained to live, act a certain way, TV, RADIO, etc is false propaganda, and there is nothing proper about it. peace
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I grew up in a Christian house, and around 16-18 started having doubts.
In retrospect I realize I was more turned off by the superficiality of how adult strangers interreact, and projected that onto the religion itself.
To this day, I'm still turned off when I'm in a church meeting and someone hugs me and I know they haven't a clue what my name is.
The difference is today I don't use that as a reason to throw out religion.

Strangely enough, the way I found my way back to Chrisianity was thru Buddahism. While living in San Francisco I attended a wonderfull talk by a Zen master. I applied, was accepted, and studied with him for 10 years.
During those years I had amazing experiences with him. During meditiations his presence would actually glow a golden radiance you could see with your eyes either open or shut.
But I also came to the realization that everything he said, no matter how much sense it made, was just his opinion.
Nowhere could he point to anything as proof.

It brought me back to a study of the Bible.
The Bible has thousands of prophesies that are all interlocking and have come true.
If this conversation were held in the '40s it would be hard to explain the many prophesies that require the Jews to be in their homeland. At that time the Jews were scattered and Israel didn't exist. Many non-believers mocked the prophecies as impossible because the Jews didn't have a homeland. But now, just one generation later what a difference. The Jews have a state, and they've raised the money to rebuild the Temple. They've bread the "flawless Red Heffer" required for temple sacraments and are ready to rebuild. This will the be fullfillment against all odds, of prophecies over 5,000 years old.

When I left my Zen teacher he gave me some advice.
He said in the world of leadership I would never be a General, but I would be a hell of a good Lieutenant. I should move wherever I wanted, and find the most genious leader I could find, someone with "vision", listen to what they want and contribute my talents to their cause.
I did just that. I moved home to Austin, and found the most wonderfull minister,
a true visionary leader of our community.
He is leading his congregation to create community.
We've bought land, and built our own meeting facilities valued at over a million dollars, using mosty sweat equity from the congregation.
And in the process I am becoming a member of a community, meeting people, working with people, learning their names, going to their parties.
The church gives me a pool of wonderfull people to meet and make my friends.

At the same time my faith has deepened.
About a year ago we studied a part of the Bible discussing Tithing.
There is a section (I don't remember where) that actually challenges you to test God. Put God to the challenge.
If you Tithe your income to God, God pours out blessings on you.
Strange how it works, I certainly can't prove it, but it seems to be true.
Seems like the more I spend on the church, the more I recieve to spend on myself.
(Did I mention I'm in the process of buying my first house?).

I am a computer system administrator. It's my job to create/maintain/back up the system and database.
Since I took the challenge to Tithe, I have experienced something several times.
I have gone thru the day at work, did my thing. Then later go to an evening church activity, or Sunday service. In the middle of prayer, I'll suddenly remember something important I had forgotten, or figure out something that was puzzling me.
On two different occasions, this realization directly helped me avert a disaster on the computer system. On one occastion, I just got an uneasy feeling during Sunday church service, went in to work on Sunday after service, and took an unscheduled backup of the database. Just hours later there was a disk crash on that system, but I had everything I needed to recover.
Divine intervention? I can't prove it. But I certainly was saying "Thank you, Lord" a lot that day.

Before someone starts picking this apart and flaming me - save your breath
I really couldn't care less if a non-believer doesn't accept what I have experienced to be true.
It is my responsibility to state what I experience to be true.
It is not my responsibility that others believe it.

Dread Lady - best wishes. I notice you struggle with this topic a lot. Here's hoping you find the answers you seek. I think you'd have a lot better luck finding them by searching out a local congregation of people you respect, and talking to a minister that can hold a candle to your intellect. You deserve nothing less. Just because a forum of muscleheads aren't giving you the answers you seek doesn't mean the answers don't exist. Put every bit as much effort into finding these answers as you do into your workouts and you'll find peace.
 
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brainiac said:
We can debate who our fore fathers were till we are all blue in the face. I am talking about the men who built this country and its political system. Not a bunch of warped-uneducated pilgrims who burned women at the stake because they though they were witches...
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The point is, you dont need to make false statements that will lead others astray.

If you do, be prepared to be corrected.

Facts are Facts, they need not be 'debated till your blue in the face'

HM
 
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