Question about comming off cycle ..

[dal022]

Was just wondering i am in day 17 of PCT came off a 17 week test cyp,deca,EQ, and winny cycle from weeks 14-17 i dropped the test cyp cause i ran out and add test prop 100mg ed. PCT is HCG 500iu ed for 10 days and clomid 50mg ed for 30 days so i am done with hcg and in day 7 of clomid. was wondering when you start to lose the size and strength gains cause i havent at all still doing all same weight and seem to be the same size does it take longer or i might keep most my gains?

 

[Mrpumped]

You will lose some water weight and strength but keeping the rest of your gains will depend on how you continue to eat and train.

 

[needtogetaas]

You will lose some water weight and strength but keeping the rest of your gains will depend on how you continue to eat and train.

true and also it takes some longer then others to start to lose them...

 

[Cal_21]

long ester test is still in your system for 10-14 days after the last injection. So your body has only technically only been off for a few days. Best of luck to you keeping up strength & size.

 

[timtim]

hcg than clomid alone for pct? risky.

 

[rdel85]

HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - than clomid alone for PCT - post cycle therapy - ? risky.

says who?

500iu of HCG the last ten days of your cycle. 50mg clomid for 3 weeks. Run a light AI throughout. What more do you need?

 

[needtogetaas]

says who?

500iu of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - the last ten days of your cycle. 50mg clomid for 3 weeks. Run a light aromatase inhibitor throughout. What more do you need?

why not just run dermacrin sustain its already got the light ai's in it along with so much more...

run the hcg threw out cycle and stop injecting early..

 

[rdel85]

why not just run dermacrin sustain its already got the light aromatase inhibitor's in it along with so much more...

run the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - threw out cycle and stop injecting early..

You could do that. Everyone has to figure out for themselves what works and what doesn't then stick to it. No need to piss away those gains you busted your ass for because you don't know PCT - post cycle therapy - . My last cycle I used H C G for the first time and recovery was remarkably easier. I am fortunate I can run 50mg of clomid ed and don't get any sides. I think my P c t protocol will be H C G throughout or at the least the last ten days of the cycle, 5omg clomid ed, and AIFM or whatever aromatase inhibitor I have around.

 

[dal022]

long ester test is still in your system for 10-14 days after the last injection. So your body has only technically only been off for a few days. Best of luck to you keeping up strength & size.

i quit all long ester test 3 weeks before pct in thoes 3 weeks i ran test prop and winny winny was actually five weeks 2 weeks while i was still on everything else so theres no way the long easter test is still in my system

 

[hyp1]

if you're done with your HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - injections and it's been 4.5 days since your last propionate injection I would immediately start dermacrine sustain(ran for an entire month) and continue with your clomid @50mgs a night for a couple of weeks.

this is the exact post cycle therapy I did,and I didn't lose any size or strength gains,and I came off of a heavy cycle of enanthate,equipoise,trenbolone acetate,and propionate

 

[samsaige]

You could do that. Everyone has to figure out for themselves what works and what doesn't then stick to it. No need to piss away those gains you busted your ass for because you don't know PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . My last cycle I used H C G for the first time and recovery was remarkably easier. I am fortunate I can run 50mg of clomid ed and don't get any sides. I think my P c t protocol will be H C G throughout or at the least the last ten days of the cycle, 5omg clomid ed, and AIFM or whatever aromatase inhibitor I have around.

ok, so yes to clomid or no if you are runing derma? need to seems to say no need to do it, and you seem to do clomid with derma?

 

[Cal_21]

i quit all long ester test 3 weeks before PCT - post cycle therapy - in thoes 3 weeks i ran test testosterone propionate and Winstrol - stanozolol Winstrol - stanozolol was actually five weeks 2 weeks while i was still on everything else so theres no way the long easter test is still in my system

I missed the Test P part, my bad bro. Sounds like you may well have a good chance at keeping a high % of your gains

 

[timtim]

says who?

500iu of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - the last ten days of your cycle. 50mg clomid for 3 weeks. Run a light aromatase inhibitor throughout. What more do you need?

dude, read the post, he said hcg and clomid. you turn and say hcg, clomid, AND AN AI. he never said that. i responded to his post and then you try and trump it up and say its cool, but add this too. you ever think that couldve been my point? he needed alittle something extra?

and why do i think its a bad idea? look up what clomid does and then youll see why i think its risky.

 

[st8grad]

Can I crash your thread and ask how you liked the results of EQ and Deka in the same cycle?

Was just wondering i am in day 17 of PCT - post cycle therapy - came off a 17 week test testosterone cypionate,Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ,Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , and Winstrol - stanozolol cycle from weeks 14-17 i dropped the test testosterone cypionate cause i ran out and add test testosterone propionate 100mg ed. PCT is HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500iu ed for 10 days and clomid 50mg ed for 30 days so i am done with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and in day 7 of clomid. was wondering when you start to lose the size and strength gains cause i havent at all still doing all same weight and seem to be the same size does it take longer or i might keep most my gains?

 

[Papa Lion]

says who?

500iu of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - the last ten days of your cycle. 50mg clomid for 3 weeks. Run a light aromatase inhibitor throughout. What more do you need?

longer/heavier cycles call for a longer pct and that's a fairly light one for heavy 17 weeker IMHO!! I finally nailed my personal pct last cycle and I was still making gains through p-c-t had minimal drop in strength a bit after I finished p-c-t but it was VERY minimal the only problems I had other than that were a drop in sex/and desire for sex for a little while and I had kind of a flat feeling in the gym... the pumps just weren't really there.... but I pushed through it anyways!! and I did have a drop in endurance... though I was stil shoving the same poundage... I cou;dn't do it set after set like I could on cycle!! but my maxes stayed the same!! hope that helps!!

 

[ironclaw]

Was just wondering i am in day 17 of PCT - post cycle therapy - came off a 17 week test testosterone cypionate,Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ,Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , and Winstrol - stanozolol cycle from weeks 14-17 i dropped the test testosterone cypionate cause i ran out and add test testosterone propionate 100mg ed. PCT is HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500iu ed for 10 days and clomid 50mg ed for 30 days so i am done with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and in day 7 of clomid. was wondering when you start to lose the size and strength gains cause i havent at all still doing all same weight and seem to be the same size does it take longer or i might keep most my gains?

keep your diet in check, up the calories, maybe cut back a little on working out, lower the number of sets and go for relatively heavy weight to maintain muscle mass. You will loose a little, but keep most of it.

 

[Harleymarleybone]

Was just wondering i am in day 17 of PCT - post cycle therapy - came off a 17 week test testosterone cypionate,Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ,Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , and Winstrol - stanozolol cycle from weeks 14-17 i dropped the test testosterone cypionate cause i ran out and add test testosterone propionate 100mg ed. PCT is HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500iu ed for 10 days and clomid 50mg ed for 30 days so i am done with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and in day 7 of clomid. was wondering when you start to lose the size and strength gains cause i havent at all still doing all same weight and seem to be the same size does it take longer or i might keep most my gains?

My experience is about a month after PCT you will start to see weight and strength loss. Depends on diet and how successful your PCT was. Deca shuts down your HPTA hard, and even with PCT, your natural test levels could fall below the norm for a few months after, affecting your gains, motivation, etc.
You should get blood work done a month or two after PCT to see how your test levels are holding up.

 

[dal022]

Can I crash your thread and ask how you liked the results of Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and Deka in the same cycle?

it was good for alittle bit though the deca started to smooth out the rip look i was acheving with the EQ but when i threw in winny it all came together very well