Question about Clen and T3 cycle

[jessiew01]

I need help. I am fixing to start taking a cycle of clen and T3 but I don't know what doses I need to take.

I am 23, 5 foot 2 inches tall, 140 pounds and I do cardio 6 days a week and do weights 5 days a week.

If anybody knows how to take this please let me know. Thank you.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Not to bypass the question, but you will find that around here, people don't like to give drug dose answers without more info. Those two drugs are serious shit - especially T3 - and not to be jumped into lightly. Neither one of those will give shit for results without a lot of dedication from you.

How is the diet? Specifically. Not just "I eat pretty good, but cheat every now and then". That can mean anything. We need food choices, timing, amounts, measurements, condiments, etc. How much water do you drink? Your diet is the NUMBER ONE thing that will make or break you. The rest doesn't mean shit if your diet is messed up.

6 days of cardio? Pretty useless unless you are doing it right. Cardio is not the end-all-be-all of fat loss. It is simply one small tool. What do you do, when, how long, intensity?

5 days of lifting? That is a lot of lifting. What is your split like? The intensity? How long do your workouts last? Exercise choices?

Your history. How long have you been working out? What are your goals? Other supplementation?

 

[vachelle72]

I am new here , but my first question would be , why are you starting a cycle of two drugs that you are unaware of what the dosages should be and effects of the dosage?

I would assume that you are trying to lose somewhere around 20lbs or less, and if this is true , it would seem to me that with a clean diet and all the cardio , and lifting, the weight should come off on it's own.

Try taking a look at what your doing now , and see if any changes would be beneficial before going down that path.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I am new here , but my first question would be , why are you starting a cycle of two drugs that you are unaware of what the dosages should be and effects of the dosage?

I would assume that you are trying to lose somewhere around 20lbs or less, and if this is true , it would seem to me that with a clean diet and all the cardio , and lifting, the weight should come off on it's own.

Try taking a look at what your doing now , and see if any changes would be beneficial before going down that path.

You may be new here, but DAMN your advice hit the nail on the head. Niiiiice!

 

[Gymgurl]

IMHO....if your diet is not TIGHT and your training isn't...it won't help much

 

[forka]

IMHO....if your diet is not TIGHT and your training isn't...it won't help much

You know, I was going through a number of threads, looking for some information with regards to the overall effectiveness of CLEN. I'm not expert when it comes to chemical warfare here, but aren't some of us forgetting that CLEN is used solely to preserve muscle? I think burning fat is secondary when it comes to preserving muscle during contest prep. Obviously you want to be shredded, but at the same time, you want to preserve as much muscle as possible. There are so many posts with regards to this topic, but people should be commenting on the anti-catabolic properties of clenbuterol as opposed to its effectiveness of burning fat. That's why I want to use it, so I can restrict cortisol levels in my body, protect my hard earned work, and still diet hard.

FO

 

[fitbabe]

That's why I want to use it, so I can restrict cortisol levels in my body, protect my hard earned work, and still diet hard.

FO

get a cortisol blocker then.

If you do decide on clen I would buy the tabs not the liquid. That way it is accurately measured. I don't trust the pumps. I don't rate clen anyway, I think it increases the apetite. ECA is much better IMO.

 

[Sassy69]

I actually agree w/ that. Aside from the 24 hr panic attacks, clen makes me feel like I'm hungry.

 

[forka]

get a cortisol blocker then.

If you do decide on clen I would buy the tabs not the liquid. That way it is accurately measured. I don't trust the pumps. I don't rate clen anyway, I think it increases the apetite. ECA is much better IMO.

Do cortisol blocker's work? Honestly? I mean, I've heard some things, but nothing well documented.

Fo

 

[Sassy69]

They may work but to rely on them for "fat burning" like the commercial says is probably a joke. You can reduce your cortisol by reducing your stress which you can do by exercising & eating right.

 

[forka]

They may work but to rely on them for "fat burning" like the commercial says is probably a joke. You can reduce your cortisol by reducing your stress which you can do by exercising & eating right.

I don't think I can naturally suppress my own stress levels that much at this point in my life.Firstly, I'm a bit of worrier to big with. Secondly, my life in terms of demands, is very high at this point. I'm heavily engrossed with my academics, and there's always issues with my program. So between work and school, its incredibly difficult. That's why I'm considering doing a cycle of clen. For the most part, I've seen more negative responses then positive ones here at elitefittness. I'm slightly perplexed by this, because so many people advocate the use of clen during a calorie reduce phase or just coming of cycle. For me, its not so much losing, its preserving. When I diet hard, I lose a lot. I'm 27 now, and I think I’m ready for some changes. But its hard, with so much going on. I find myself reading a lot, but I also find some many varying opinions. I have the liquid form, but I am bit frightened of making a mistake. I mean, if something did go wrong…. What should you're response be to say, a doctor?

I’m all over place, sorry.

Anth

 

[Sassy69]

Its usually guys who say that things work so great for them. If you are female the same doesn't necessarily apply. Clen - it specifically depends on how you are able to handle the stuff. I think that guys are able to handle it better because they have greater body weight. It's also usually the first entry point to experimenting w/ controlled substances so everyone seems to think they're using the "secret formula" or something. There was a post some where on EF from Fonz that stated that the fat burning capability of clen was really not much more than ECA.

I'm confused as far as using clen for dealing w/ cortisol -- like I said, for me clen tends to up my blood pressure and just leave me in a general state of agitation all the time, and that does absolutely nothing to help any additional stress I might already have. That's why I'm saying -- I am better able to deal w/ stress of life by getting into the gym & eating clean. You get the stress worked out w/ physical exertion, you sleep better and you aren't throwing in more shit food to add to the stress on your body already.

I don't feel that if you already have a lot of negative stresses on your life that self medicating to deal w/ them will make things better. Keep it simple. Eat clean, exercise.

 

[fitbabe]

you need to make sure that you dose correctly with the liquid stuff. Its normally only a drop or two per measure. You need to check it with the supplier. Dont OD FFS.

Maybe you need to look at your protein intake when you diet to reduce muscle loss. Check your diet is on track.

 

[forka]

you need to make sure that you dose correctly with the liquid stuff. Its normally only a drop or two per measure. You need to check it with the supplier. Dont OD FFS.

Maybe you need to look at your protein intake when you diet to reduce muscle loss. Check your diet is on track.

Some how I managed to get myself into this thread, by doing a search. I wanted relative information with regards to CLEN. I always wanted some practical information, you know things like personal experience using. Anyhow, I just wanted to say thanks, especially to 'Sassy69'. I'm not sure what I'm going to do at this point. Some people rave about the benefits of Clen, while other state better alternatives. Regardless, I'll probably try it out, and see for myself.

Because I have CLEN in liquid form, I'll be using a syringe to measure out my dosage. I'm leaning towards the 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off regimen. The only thing I'm uncertain off is how long can you repeat this? I have read countless threads on how to cycle Clenbuterol with ketoifen, but I rather not. I will split my dosage in two, even with the 20mcgs, because I have no idea how I will respond to it.

Anyways, I have to study, is thread is far more interesting then my current work.

Thanks,

Fo