PVL for 30 days = CRAP

[Seth28]

Naw, cortisol epidurals arent enough to produce a systemic catabolic response. Thats odd though,, did you increase your cals enough? ONe way to check and see if test is real is just get a serum test level. You should be on the higher end of normal at 250mg a week or supraphysiologic if you have any natural test production. There are labs that can order the test for you on the net, forget what the name is but someone here should have it.

Also remember that alot of people need 4-6 weeks before the gains from EQ and deca start. I especially think this is true if you have done a few cycles. I just dont put on alot of water wt right away at the doses that I used to bloat at. Gluck bro.

 

[ryker77]

I've got acces to have my blood checked. I'll just not use PVL and start with the ol'e fina. Its never failed me.

 

[BigAndy69]

"Bro, check your pm" ... for what? Is it shit or not? Why, in this day and age, do people buy bootlegs? There should be no demand given the supply of human and vet grade products. People berate vet grade for no good reason but why oh why would you ever take bootleg over vet or human grade gear? Crazy! Tren, okay, because it is in essence a homemade product anyway. But test????? Deca? EQ? Sorry dude but, you know, even if the PVL is real, you'll never know! Unless you have it tested, and where is the cost savings in that? It is good you will never do PVL again. Stay away from all bootleg brands.

Bro, what business is it of yours? Maybe I have some info for him that I don't feel like sharing with the board.

 

[needsize]

"Bro, check your pm" ... for what? Is it shit or not? Why, in this day and age, do people buy bootlegs? There should be no demand given the supply of human and vet grade products. People berate vet grade for no good reason but why oh why would you ever take bootleg over vet or human grade gear? Crazy! Tren, okay, because it is in essence a homemade product anyway. But test????? Deca? EQ? Sorry dude but, you know, even if the PVL is real, you'll never know! Unless you have it tested, and where is the cost savings in that? It is good you will never do PVL again. Stay away from all bootleg brands.

This is a broad generalization....My last 35lbs or so of mass have come from exclusively underground gear, you just need to know which one to go with

 

[jubei]

Bro, what business is it of yours? Maybe I have some info for him that I don't feel like sharing with the board.

No shit... That's why there is the PM option.

 

[Big Boy]

Suprising

PV Lab as a great reputation and the results I see on the boards speak for themselves. In my opinion you can'T go wrong with the UG Labs in Canada (PV Lab, LFC, Jenaka, etc...)

This being said, I find it suprising that it took ryker77 a lot of time to get is goods because I've read on the boards that their customer service is Great that the goods are always readily available. Choose carefully your sources...

Deca usually kicks in within 4-5 weeks and I've seen a lot of bro's mention 5-8 weeks for EQ....

my 0.02$

BB

 

[luke69]

Re: Suprising

PV Lab as a great reputation and the results I see on the boards speak for themselves. In my opinion you can'T go wrong with the UG Labs in Canada (PV Lab, LFC, Jenaka, etc...)

This being said, I find it suprising that it took ryker77 a lot of time to get is goods because I've read on the boards that their customer service is Great that the goods are always readily available. Choose carefully your sources...

Deca usually kicks in within 4-5 weeks and I've seen a lot of bro's mention 5-8 weeks for EQ....

my 0.02$

BB

well put bro. i have tried many canadian underground labs and for the most part been happy,luke

 

[monka]

I can also say that I've used MOST of the line, and can honestly say it rocks!! The dude at my guy, also love it , never had one complaint......
I've also used, WP , Old spectro so far and all were what they say!!

MOnka

 

[Danny Love]

Just a question man ? Have you talked to your rep before making a thread thrashing those products ? If you rep is in fact selling the "real deal", I'm sure he would of compansated you.

I don't think it's right from you to thrash a company who has definitely made her proof within the last year. Well when your at the top, there's always some people who will try to bring you down.

I used those products and have achieve good gains (and nut shrinkage : ) ). I fucking doubled my reps on my deadlift with the suspina in 1 week and you're gonna tell me that
PV Labs = Crap.... Come on ...

And about your cycle dosage, I really don't understand why taking a week with 500mg test, then the next week none.
Enanthate is active in the body for 5-6 days isn't it. So your left with 8 days out of 14 without test .... I think your cycle wasn't well planned (it ain't the usual cycle that's for sure).

QUOTE : I'm no newbie to this world and I know what is what.

Those dosage are a little weak for someone advanced like you say you are.


Another thing, I saw you live in the US ... AS I know , PV Labs only ships domestically to Canada. You said that it took a lot of time to receive your order. So who knows where your order was. Maybe it was sitting all night outside in a truck at -30. You get what I'm saying, it's hard to control quality in those circumstances. I think PV Labs should stay within Canada.

This is no flame but I think you should of thinked and talked to your rep first .

 

[Fonz]

AS I know , PV Labs only ships domestically to Canada.

Thats what I thought too....so whats the story?

And I'm putting my faith in Rykers commentary. He doesn't cry wolf for the fun of it.

Something about PV is askew in the US(Still don't know how it got there).

Fonz