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Public schools should change.

SVT-TROY

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Jr. High and High school should only teach math and english (fuck history, it's only good for trivia games) and they should start implimenting a college type feel, where the students takes classes that prepare them for a career. They don't need Phys ED., don't need science, don't need Home Economics, don't need geography (buy a map), unless these classes are picked by the student because of their career goals. Sex ED is questionable.
 
SVT-TROY said:
Jr. High and High school should only teach math and english (fuck history, it's only good for trivia games) and they should start implimenting a college type feel, where the student takes classes that prepare them for a career. They don't need Phys ED., don't need science, don't need Home Economics, don't need geography (buy a map), unless these classes are picked by the student because of their career goals. Sex ED is questionable.
What do you mean by 'public school'?

Public school to me means an expensive education where you're parents, unless you're on a scholarship must fork out thousands.

Community school means you're in with every other Dick, Tom and Harry.
 
JayC9 said:
What do you mean by 'public school'?

Public school to me means an expensive education where you're parents, unless you're on a scholarship must fork out thousands.

Community school means you're in with every other Dick, Tom and Harry.
I call that a private school. I consider public and community the same thing.
 
SVT-TROY said:
Jr. High and High school should only teach math and english (fuck history, it's only good for trivia games) and they should start implimenting a college type feel, where the students takes classes that prepare them for a career. They don't need Phys ED., don't need science, don't need Home Economics, don't need geography (buy a map), unless these classes are picked by the student because of their career goals. Sex ED is questionable.
Kids in Jr. High & High School are still very impressionable. I think they should make a lot of peripheral courses optional, but I think the Core should be English, Science, Math, Phys Ed, & Home Ec. Home Ec should also focus more on stuff like managing a home, bills, mortgages, responsibilities, etc.
True Sexual Education should also be mandatory in High School, & it should deal with relationships & gender perspectives, not just physical love.
People change careers all the time. To eliminate a core field, when people are so young, will eliminate options when they are older. Besides, who knows what they want to be, at 14, or even 17 yrs old?
 
SVT-TROY said:
Jr. High and High school should only teach math and english (fuck history, it's only good for trivia games) and they should start implimenting a college type feel, where the students takes classes that prepare them for a career. They don't need Phys ED., don't need science, don't need Home Economics, don't need geography (buy a map), unless these classes are picked by the student because of their career goals. Sex ED is questionable.


And...based on this message, they should focus a little more on spelling...

along that line, I called 411 yesterday and asked for the number to Carolina Acceleration.....the girl looked for awhile, then came back on and said there was no number for that....then she asked if I spelled Acceleration...E-X-C-E-L-L....anyway, you get the point. I asked her how in the hell she got that job.....blows my mind...

You ever notice how at McDonalds, etc...if the register is not working, how they cannot figure change ??? Unbelievable that they can't even add or subtract.....not to mention speak correctly...these people would be illiterate as based on a test from 1955....
 
SVT-TROY said:
Jr. High and High school should only teach math and english (fuck history, it's only good for trivia games) and they should start implimenting a college type feel, where the students takes classes that prepare them for a career. They don't need Phys ED., don't need science, don't need Home Economics, don't need geography (buy a map), unless these classes are picked by the student because of their career goals. Sex ED is questionable.

I disagree. A child should emerge from their education not only able to survive college, but also with a foundation of general information.

I don't recall Geography being taught as a separate class.

Students with no science background will not be prepared for college at all.
 
Mr. dB said:
I disagree. A child should emerge from their education not only able to survive college, but also with a foundation of general information.

I don't recall Geography being taught as a separate class.

Students with no science background will not be prepared for college at all.
Geography was one of my classes in junior high. 8th grade.
 
bullett said:
And...based on this message, they should focus a little more on spelling...

along that line, I called 411 yesterday and asked for the number to Carolina Acceleration.....the girl looked for awhile, then came back on and said there was no number for that....then she asked if I spelled Acceleration...E-X-C-E-L-L....anyway, you get the point. I asked her how in the hell she got that job.....blows my mind...

You ever notice how at McDonalds, etc...if the register is not working, how they cannot figure change ??? Unbelievable that they can't even add or subtract.....not to mention speak correctly...these people would be illiterate as based on a test from 1955....
Wow, you found one error (implimenting instead of implementing) oops. There is no real need for me to have correct grammar or spelling when on these boards, if I were writing a letter to my boss or co-workers then yes I would need to be professional. Conversing on a chat site or writing a letter to my family or friends, who cares.
 
SVT-TROY said:
Wow, you found one error (implimenting instead of implementing) oops. There is no real need for me to have correct grammar or spelling when on these boards, if I were writing a letter to my boss or co-workers then yes I would need to be professional. Conversing on a chat site or writing a letter to my family or friends, who cares.
If you think the study of history is fit only for board games, you are a dumb muther fucker. Get the panties outta your ass. ASAP. Thanks, K bye.
 
Your proposal for change is pure shit. If you think classes like science and history arent needed you obviously dont have any knowledge of said subjects.
 
hidngod said:
Kids in Jr. High & High School are still very impressionable. I think they should make a lot of peripheral courses optional, but I think the Core should be English, Science, Math, Phys Ed, & Home Ec. Home Ec should also focus more on stuff like managing a home, bills, mortgages, responsibilities, etc.
True Sexual Education should also be mandatory in High School, & it should deal with relationships & gender perspectives, not just physical love.
People change careers all the time. To eliminate a core field, when people are so young, will eliminate options when they are older. Besides, who knows what they want to be, at 14, or even 17 yrs old?
i know what i dont want to be...i know i will never go into a career or make any sort of life decision knowing i will have to use history or english. right now those classes are just time wasters and aheadache for me.

i wish my classtime could be spend on the maths and sciences, or maybe even art classes instead...(yes i have more use for an art class than i do a fucking english or history class- (unless its for naptime, then history is fine))
 
jestros said:
If you think the study of history is fit only for board games, you are a dumb muther fucker. Get the panties outta your ass. ASAP. Thanks, K bye.
You must spread karma before giving it to jestros again. But seriously, what do you think history is good for? All I've learned from it is man's inhumanity to humanity; Slavery, Wars, Killing, Mass Destruction, Assasinations, Terrorism, Conspiracies, Greed, Hatred, and all the other terrible things that we are capable of. You must have a love affair with Hitler. By the way mother is spelled with an o.
 
superdave said:
Your proposal for change is pure shit. If you think classes like science and history arent needed you obviously dont have any knowledge of said subjects.
look up, this is for u too
 
SVT-TROY said:
You must spread karma before giving it to jestros again. But seriously, what do you think history is good for? All I've learned from it is man's inhumanity to humanity; Slavery, Wars, Killing, Mass Destruction, Assasinations, Terrorism, Conspiracies, Greed, Hatred, and all the other terrible things that we are capable of. You must have a love affair with Hitler. By the way mother is spelled with an o.
Hmm you must be on WWII in history class. There are good things as well as bad things in history. I think history is like broccoli, you think it gross when you're a kid, and when you grow up you appreciate it.
 
jestros said:
Hmm you must be on WWII in history class. There are good things as well as bad things in history. I think history is like broccoli, you think it gross when you're a kid, and when you grow up you appreciate it.
i agree a general understanding of the world and countries history is necessary, but the in depth stress put on it in highschool is REDICULOUS.

i also find ur response to SVtroy about panties out of his ass a bit immature and unecessary...

reguardless, a mathematician or doctor does not need to have an in depth understanding/memorization of history... historians do...politicians do...lawyers do (to an extent)....

if u can think of a good reason for a doctor to to know history (not of medicine, but lets say european history) i will apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

ya fucking idiot
 
jestros said:
Hmm you must be on WWII in history class. There are good things as well as bad things in history. I think history is like broccoli, you think it gross when you're a kid, and when you grow up you appreciate it.
I have been out of school for more than a decade, I have a degree and I am working on another. I don't use any of the stuff I learned in history in every day life. I gaduated with a 3.4 (not that great, but not that bad). As you can see. English is not one of my strong points, Math is my favorite, that may have alot to do with why I am a Designer and not an English Teacher.
 
SVT-TROY said:
look up, this is for u too
Different subject matter provides different methods and patterns for the brain to expand and diversify it's thought processes, in addition to the importance to knowledge of the subject matter itself. These subjects are not simply taught because someone wants you to know how to spell cat, or memorize the date of the Gettysburg Address, or learn 2+2=4, or know that plants intake CO2.
 
I'm amazed at how little understanding people have of basic physical concepts, let alone math. But thats easy to say when 99% of your classes deal with those two subjects in a very complicated manner.

I was thinking it would be cool to teach high school physics.


More emphasis on English is needed. Partly due to the fact that barely anyone reads books anymore.
 
UA_Iron said:
More emphasis on English is needed. Partly due to the fact that barely anyone reads books anymore.
I agree with you here. I'm not really well educated when it comes to things like Shakespeare. I know that's not entirely relevant, but I was reading an article the other day about how literate people are today. The point was that even the lower educated people at the turn of the last century still had knowledge of these stories & others, like Homer, & the Greek philosophers. The reason given was, before entertainment became such a huge industry people were forced to aquaint themselves with these stories. Then when other forms of entertainment arrived, they lost interest in having to read, & even think about what they were reading. Today's internet society is even worse because we spend so much time on these boards & surfing for instant news, that we don't have the patience to actual think about the moral of a story.
 
SublimeZM said:
i agree a general understanding of the world and countries history is necessary, but the in depth stress put on it in highschool is REDICULOUS.

i also find ur response to SVtroy about panties out of his ass a bit immature and unecessary...

reguardless, a mathematician or doctor does not need to have an in depth understanding/memorization of history... historians do...politicians do...lawyers do (to an extent)....

if u can think of a good reason for a doctor to to know history (not of medicine, but lets say european history) i will apologize for calling you a fucking idiot.

ya fucking idiot
I can see you are still upset I called you a pussy for crying about your bloody nose. :D
Anyway, it isn't necessarily about the practical application a knowledge of history gives you, but it makes you a better human being. If it was up to me I would make people take more history, more art, music and things that most people complain about as being "useless".
BTW, I hated history in high school. But in colllege, the professors were much better teachers, they talked more about the interesting (dirt) type stuff.
And now I read books about history, ON MY OWN, with no one making me.
 
SVT-TROY said:
I have been out of school for more than a decade, I have a degree and I am working on another. I don't use any of the stuff I learned in history in every day life. I gaduated with a 3.4 (not that great, but not that bad). As you can see. English is not one of my strong points, Math is my favorite, that may have alot to do with why I am a Designer and not an English Teacher.
In HS the number #1 complaint was always "why do I have to take math, it's not going to help me in the real world". It just goes to show teenagers don't always know whats good for them. I'm a graphic designer as well. I just read a history book called "Picasso's War". It's about Guernika and the historical context it was painted in. Very interesting.
 
jestros said:
In HS the number #1 complaint was always "why do I have to take math, it's not going to help me in the real world". It just goes to show teenagers don't always know whats good for them. I'm a graphic designer as well. I just read a history book called "Picasso's War". It's about Guernika and the historical context it was painted in. Very interesting.
How long have you been a Graphic Designer and how well is it working for you? I was doing Electrical Design for a fire protection company, but now I am attending school again to get a degree in Vehicle Design (what I've been wanting to do for a while). I'm hoping that Michigan's technical jobs bounce back soon, if not; time to move.
 
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