Proviron will shut you down, yes or no...

[MrRTTB]

Some say yes, other say no. I thought of using this while doing PCT. Has anyoe used it while on PCT and recovered like you should(as far as you know and felt)

 

[Ulter]

No. It seems to only bind to the AR in your brain and not in your muscle or testes.

 

[machaveli]

No -

 

[Mr. Black]

Some believe that if your shutdown already, then supplementing with Proviron will keep you supressed. A healthy man taking it however would experience no shutdown.

 

[Slyder190]

I in no way challenge Ulter's knowledge, but I'd say yes on this one. I'd like to see the studies from both sides.

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

bump

 

[alltraps]

i took it pc for 12 weeks, got tested at week 15 and my test levels were that of a 12 year old girl. im dead serious. so i am not sure if it will shut you down, but I AM 100% sure that it will KEEP YOU SHUT down

 

[Slyder190]

Yay - 1, Nay - 0

 

[Ulter]

These guys were given a boatload of Proviron (Mesterolone) for a year, and unless their LH was very high to begin with it had no effect on it. The question was will Proviron shut you down. Even those with high LH counts were not "shut down". It had no effect on Test levels, even after a year. So if someone says it shuts you down I don't know what they are basing that on.



Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1988 Feb;26(1):121-8.

The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

 

[alltraps]

These guys were given a boatload of Proviron (Mesterolone) for a year, and unless their LH was very high to begin with it had no effect on it. The question was will Proviron shut you down. Even those with high LH counts were not "shut down". It had no effect on Test levels, even after a year. So if someone says it shuts you down I don't know what they are basing that on.



Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1988 Feb;26(1):121-8.

The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

i guess there are no studies to show wheather it will hinder recovery post cycle? because, as i said, it completely prevented recovery for me when i used it post cycle to help with sexual function and erectile difficulties