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Proviron as part of stack?
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MrRTTB
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Proviron is very good when on test. The sexhormone SHBG(did I spell this right..) will be affected in time and you will not get those "hard ons" while waking up(often a proof that you would need something for your free testosterone like Zink, Avena sativa or proviron). You know people who always claim they have to bump testo dose every new cycle, well I beleeve this can be avoided if the free testosterone is in action. Proviron kick ass
twistedneck
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Proviron also acts as a natural aromatase inhibitor with test.. wont cause arterial plack build up like arimidex..
Powerhouse_10
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is proviron an effective aromatase inhibitor? does it reduce IGF-1 levels, like armidex for example.
twistedneck - i dit not know arimidex causes arterial build up (build up of what?), in that case, would proviron be a better choice overall (taking into results as well)
i too have heard proviron being used instead of masteron and winny as it provides the same muscle "hardness" effect. i am currently in a "cutting phase" as a natural (not stacking anything) and am considering using proviron to 'free up natural test. would this work, or would i need to be on a cycle for this to be in effect (due to the extra testosterone) or does it have the same effect on natural testosterone levels???
twistedneck - i dit not know arimidex causes arterial build up (build up of what?), in that case, would proviron be a better choice overall (taking into results as well)
i too have heard proviron being used instead of masteron and winny as it provides the same muscle "hardness" effect. i am currently in a "cutting phase" as a natural (not stacking anything) and am considering using proviron to 'free up natural test. would this work, or would i need to be on a cycle for this to be in effect (due to the extra testosterone) or does it have the same effect on natural testosterone levels???
twistedneck
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Powerhouse
Its not a real inhibitor like arimidex but it does actively bind to the aromatse with a higher affinity than test.. freeing up test. And the only thing I know of anti-E wise that lowers IGF1 is Nolvadex.
The coating your arteries part is from lowering estrogen too much from arimidex/letrozole/exemestane.. when E is too low plaque builds up like no tomorrow, HDL plummets, LDL rises.
You don't need to be on a cycle to see higher free T numbers from Proviron. I recall reading blood test #'s from a bro on this board and his free T was almost half his total T and his doc thought he had a Tumor!
Nelson's wisdom, proviron is a much milder way to control estrogen. Only use arimidex if you have too (gyno prone, bloat prone, bp issues). Proviron will slow down recovery too.
Its not a real inhibitor like arimidex but it does actively bind to the aromatse with a higher affinity than test.. freeing up test. And the only thing I know of anti-E wise that lowers IGF1 is Nolvadex.
The coating your arteries part is from lowering estrogen too much from arimidex/letrozole/exemestane.. when E is too low plaque builds up like no tomorrow, HDL plummets, LDL rises.
You don't need to be on a cycle to see higher free T numbers from Proviron. I recall reading blood test #'s from a bro on this board and his free T was almost half his total T and his doc thought he had a Tumor!
Nelson's wisdom, proviron is a much milder way to control estrogen. Only use arimidex if you have too (gyno prone, bloat prone, bp issues). Proviron will slow down recovery too.
Is that ist only benefit? To free up test SHBG, and to bind to aromatse?
I was thinking becasue i is a DHT derivative, it might have some androgenic activity at the androgen receptor...IE increase strength and hardness to some extent while possibly lowering body fat.....i know not to the same extent as winny or masteron, but to some level?
I was thinking becasue i is a DHT derivative, it might have some androgenic activity at the androgen receptor...IE increase strength and hardness to some extent while possibly lowering body fat.....i know not to the same extent as winny or masteron, but to some level?
Powerhouse_10
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thanks for ur reply twistedneck, informed me a lot. i myself am planning to use proviron and nolva for my "cutting" phase, which i am doing without gear (going natural for this cut). i was thinking along the lines of doing 25mg proviron one day, then next day 20mg nolva, and so on, alternating the 2. for about 6 weeks or so (since i read proviron can be suppressive). also i feel the way in which i have planned it, is that estrogen levels won't get too low compared to if i run both compounds everyday (which can cause problems like the ones u stated, and also some estrogen is needed to burn fat). it would be good to hear what u guys think of this strategy.
also can i get this straight, if i use proviron without gear, my natural test levels will rise (and i can see more gains...). also since i am running nolva eod (and this is a SERM that is used for pct to raise natural test levels via lh output) i am thinking that my natural test levels will rise because of that also....
advice would be great (sorry for my long ass post)
also can i get this straight, if i use proviron without gear, my natural test levels will rise (and i can see more gains...). also since i am running nolva eod (and this is a SERM that is used for pct to raise natural test levels via lh output) i am thinking that my natural test levels will rise because of that also....
advice would be great (sorry for my long ass post)
