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Pros and Cons of Winny?

sinice tren and winny are both excellent hardeners, would it be a good for all your summer cutting needs??? Of course prop. should be invlolved. Has anyone done a deca/prop/tren/winny combination cause that sounds like a baddass cycle?!? I would imagine you would get really ripped and very big at the same time so it would be ideal right???
 
Only bad side I get from oral winny is it kills my HDL. Pros-it's easy to get and it's cheap as hell.
 
carlsky said:
sinice tren and winny are both excellent hardeners, would it be a good for all your summer cutting needs??? Of course prop. should be invlolved. Has anyone done a deca/prop/tren/winny combination cause that sounds like a baddass cycle?!? I would imagine you would get really ripped and very big at the same time so it would be ideal right???

My current cycle is Test Prop 200mg eod, Winny Depot 100mg eod, Deca 200mg p/w.

As you can see the Deca isn't really there as a mass builder, more to keep things feeling smooth.

Anyway, I'm feeling pretty fucking hard right now and the gains are starting to show. Only been on 4 weeks, got another 4 to go and gonna run everything straight through as is. Vascularity and pump is awesome when training and all the gains are good solid and lean, looking more ripped every week!

I'm really enjoying this cycle cos firstly my sex drive is spot on, I don't feel over emotional or angry, I'm getting nice and strong, hard and lean, basically I'm feeling no sides at all!

Only down side is the amount of injections this cycle involves but hell, it's worth it!

Hope that helps, would probably add the Tren if I could get any!!! :evil:
 
carlsky said:
sinice tren and winny are both excellent hardeners, would it be a good for all your summer cutting needs??? Of course prop. should be invlolved. Has anyone done a deca/prop/tren/winny combination cause that sounds like a baddass cycle?!? I would imagine you would get really ripped and very big at the same time so it would be ideal right???
thats what m doing this summer, but the deca will be LOW doses just for joint relief (150-200mg/week)
Bionic
 
This constant winny debat is driving me crazy. I cant decide which way to go. I have tAbs from british dragon and injectable from Lyka labs. I am about to start a Omna/Winny cycle. I just cant figure which ones to use. I have enough of both.

Here are my thoughts, I go with the Lyka injectable, I become a Fukkin pin cushion, which I dont mind but if i dont have to why do it. I keep hearing that i am better off.

I go with the orals, it is less of a hassel than shoting up everyday.


But the orals are going to be worse on my Liver.....

For all you scientist HOW much worse is the oral going to be on my liver. Or is it not enough to matter?
 
dont ask..it can be different for everyone.. YOU need blood work to find out

some people can pop dbol for 10months straight at a high dosage and be fine others would have serious problems long before then

injectable is safer because it saves one pass through the liver..

but who knows that might still send your values through the roof

also make sure you take your protectants(r-ala/milk thistle/etc)

good luck
 
The search function (even for non-plats) yields 5 or 6 old posts. There is no debate, absorption of winny in mammals has been calculated.

Can J Vet Res. 2000 Oct;64(4):246-8. Related Articles, Links
The effect of stanozolol on 15nitrogen retention in the dog.
Olson ME, Morck DW, Quinn KB.
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So if oral winny dose = inj dose/0.65.

Once it is absorbed into your blood stream, 17-aa toxicity is the same for winny regardless of how it got there. When you inject, it is absorbed through the blood stream by leaching from the depot (water sol); when you eat it is absorbed through your intestinal circulation. Your whole blood supply passes through the liver either way. There is an enterhepatic first-pass you can read about in any medical text, but its clinical effect is negligible.

It's hard to get excited about topics hot 4 years ago. But being a relative newbie myself, I understand your dilemma. What this board really needs is not more stupid stickies, but a newby forum, for all PCT, winny, test ester, etc questions. Then another forum can be to discuss new ideas in anabolics. If we can have all these useless macrame and hindu meditation forums, maybe a forum to answer common questions would be good.
 
majutsu said:
The search function (even for non-plats) yields 5 or 6 old posts. There is no debate, absorption of winny in mammals has been calculated.

Can J Vet Res. 2000 Oct;64(4):246-8. Related Articles, Links
The effect of stanozolol on 15nitrogen retention in the dog.
Olson ME, Morck DW, Quinn KB.
__________________

So if oral winny dose = inj dose/0.65.

Once it is absorbed into your blood stream, 17-aa toxicity is the same for winny regardless of how it got there. When you inject, it is absorbed through the blood stream by leaching from the depot (water sol); when you eat it is absorbed through your intestinal circulation. Your whole blood supply passes through the liver either way. There is an enterhepatic first-pass you can read about in any medical text, but its clinical effect is negligible.

It's hard to get excited about topics hot 4 years ago. But being a relative newbie myself, I understand your dilemma. What this board really needs is not more stupid stickies, but a newby forum, for all PCT, winny, test ester, etc questions. Then another forum can be to discuss new ideas in anabolics. If we can have all these useless macrame and hindu meditation forums, maybe a forum to answer common questions would be good.



Great idea about the newbie forum!!!
 
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