Prop crystalized, baking info

[jmead]

so i got a 20ml bottle of EO prop.. and when i let it sit there is like a bubble, when i shake it it looks like the horomone spreads throughout the vial like crystals.. kinda weird.. but anyway im wanting to use it to jumpstart my cycle..

the cap is still on.. do i have to pop the top to bake it.. with a needle to release pressure.. or since its unopenend can i just bake it.

how long and at what temperature.. or is it easier to put it in boiling water..

or is this bottle just trash

 

[jmead]

thanks for the help guys, cough

 

[chazk]

thanks for the help guys, cough

pop top insert a needle in the top tilt it in at a angle top keep the platic from melting on the rubber stopper.. heat oven 220 should be ok your not really baking it just heating it up some ....id do it for maybe 15 minutes then swirl and allow to cool

 

[jmead]

pop top insert a needle in the top tilt it in at a angle top keep the platic from melting on the rubber stopper.. heat oven 220 should be ok your not really baking it just heating it up some ....id do it for maybe 15 minutes then swirl and allow to cool

tilt it in at a angle top keep the platic from melting on the rubber stopper

explain that part a little more, kinda confused me.. thanks for the response bro

 

[samoth]

That happened to one of my bottles of 200mg/mL propionate. I think I just gave the bottle a vigorous shaking for a couple minutes and it dissipated; No problems injecting.

 

[jmead]

i shake it.. but then it just forms a bubble again then i shake again and crystals everywhere... its weird..

 

[glennds]

easy solution: immerse vial in saucepan of boiling water, about 1/2" or so. shut of water when as soon as you put in saucepan. will liquefy in few minutes. i dont trust baking or microwaving...and taking chance of an exploding vial of precious steroids.

 

[chazk]

i shake it.. but then it just forms a bubble again then i shake again and crystals everywhere... its weird..

plastic on the needle ( the screw in part) away from the vial i had one melt once it made a big mess on the stopper lesson learned

here is a pic
http://i5.tinypic.com/331dqwg.jpg

 

[jmead]

nice pic rofl.. thanks bro

 

[jmead]

so i think the bubbles are still there.. wtf?

 

[chazk]

so i think the bubbles are still there.. wtf?

dude it been less then 5 minutes you cant even pre heat the over in 5 minutes?
did you bake it ina nuclear reactor?

 

[chazk]

of precious steroids.

you just remined me of lord of the rings " THE PRECIOUS " must have precious...
your right they are precious i have never had one popped when vented with aneedle during baking but anything could happen..

 

[OMEGA]

this happened with NPP over here:

problem solved my immersing bottle in water that was microwaved, just let it sit in there and shake every 3 minutes in goes back into solution

 

[jmead]

i tried boiled water.. and did it that way.. it goes clear.. no bubbles.. then cools.. and gets cloudy with bubbles? haha..i guess ill try the oven next

 

[Selene]

so i got a 20ml bottle of EO prop.. and when i let it sit there is like a bubble, when i shake it it looks like the horomone spreads throughout the vial like crystals.. kinda weird.. but anyway im wanting to use it to jumpstart my cycle..

the cap is still on.. do i have to pop the top to bake it.. with a needle to release pressure.. or since its unopenend can i just bake it.

how long and at what temperature.. or is it easier to put it in boiling water..

or is this bottle just trash

put on a cookie sheet in oven at lowest setting for 10-15 min
then it should be fine and should not crash again

 

[jmead]

now instead of being a bubble.. it is entirely cloudy.. is this better or worse?

 

[samoth]

now instead of being a bubble.. it is entirely cloudy.. is this better or worse?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "bubble", but I would tend to believe that the cloudy sol'n is a result of dispersion.

 

[chazk]

now instead of being a bubble.. it is entirely cloudy.. is this better or worse?

try upping the heat a little bit more like 275 and bake then swirl and cool...

if its crashed then its crashed could be the ba/bb solution was done incorrect while the ug made the gear

i'm no chemist someone else chime in on how much to add to get it to hold again if thats the case

 

[jmead]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "bubble", but I would tend to believe that the cloudy sol'n is a result of dispersion.

originally.. the EO prop solution looked fine... there was just a bubble the size of a marble floating around.. if i shook the vial it would disperse bubbles and it almost looked as if crystals throughout th evial.. then it would settle back into the bubble..

i heated it in the oven on 225 for 10 minutes.. and now the whole thing is cloudy.. so it actually looks worse?

before it was clear like it was supposed to be, but it looked as if the horomone was settled in the bubble

 

[pentatonic]

originally.. the EO prop solution looked fine... there was just a bubble the size of a marble floating around.. if i shook the vial it would disperse bubbles and it almost looked as if crystals throughout th evial.. then it would settle back into the bubble..

i heated it in the oven on 225 for 10 minutes.. and now the whole thing is cloudy.. so it actually looks worse?

before it was clear like it was supposed to be, but it looked as if the horomone was settled in the bubble

I've never seen a "bubble" like you've described with my crashed gear. I dealt with crashd prop in EO just a few months ago. When it crashes, it will look like a bunch of crystals that will settle to the bottom. These crystals will look like small shavings of glass. Does not look anything like bubbles. Cypionate, NPP, Enanthate when crashed looks similar.
I've had NPP that crashed in which I was able to leave the top on and bake in preheated oven for 5 minutes at time (yes you can do this and not explode vial as people say will happen). After each 5 mins, take out swirl it around. May take several times.
I've also had Cyp. that took baking at 250 with needle in top to vent for over 30 minutes.
So if the first thing I mentioned didn't work, I would try baking at 250 (with needle as vent) and remove every 15 minutes to shake/swirl to see if it goes back into solution.
All that said, it doesn't sound like "crashed" gear to me if you don't see the hormone crystals.

 

[jacshelb]

This cloudy look you are talking about may be because of water in your solution. If the original powder used in the process (I have no idea how they are going about it) is holding any moisture, you'll get a cloudy look in the end product if I'm guessing right. The reason I say this is that I have some home-made stuff that I got impatient with and it seems to look a lot like what you are describing. The problem with baking it, boiling etc is that alcohol evaporates quicker than water. And, while eventually you will clear the solution up (water still evaporates more quickly than oil) you might want to ad ba again to it to make sure everything stays intact afterwards. Or, you could be like me- lazy just shake and shoot. I've made a formestane injectible for myself before and it was just a thick ass gel and wouldn't stay in solution, shot it anyway here and there for years with no problems. I just have to shake it up before drawing it out. Use your own judgement, though, I'm one of those fools who tend to "rush in."


Jacob