Products such as HCGenerate, Phytoserms-347, DAA, etc. for HRT people

[njmuscleguy]

Folks,

As you know, I was a very active member of EF for years, then took a long break, and now I'm back. Most of my EF peeps know that I'm no newbie, and I've tried my share of products out there.

In the arena of "pro-hormones", "PCT products", "test boosters", I've certainly tried my share of those as well. I've gotta say, that alot of them were worthless for me and I feel it's because I am on HRT and frankly, alot of them were garbage.

So now that I'm back, I see alot of talk of some newer products... I wanna hear from guys who cycle, and are on HRT and have used test-boosting / recovery products like HCGenerate, Phytoserms, etc... What has been your experience with these kinds of products? Obviously they won't do much to boost your natural test, but do they have any benefits as far as libido, strength, feeling of well-being etc, perhaps via mechanisms other than testosterone-boosting?

Thanks!

 

[Ranger11B]

I have been using HCgen ever since i started and own 10 bottles as we speak if that tells you anything lol. Since I have not cycled without it I cant tell you the difference but i can tell you what it did. Number one i had zero shut down (used while on through pct) , libido was on point good luck being too drunk to fuck cause this shit will put you on auto private, kept my bopys nice and plump, and it kept the high test fell/attitude if you know what i mean which is great for gym motivation. using with other pct stuff after cycle to me, make the sex drive effin rediculous. I was on Hcgen, post/unleashed, forma, and shortly after bridge . i wanted to bang 24/7 and i wanted to effin destroy it during. My gf at the time had no clue i was on and quoted " I think your possesed by some nympho demonic sex ghost" . so yea great stuff well worth it if for nothing else the prevention of shut down and the pillow effect for coming off. I have just ordered 2 months supply of daa and will be sharing my experienece with it.

 

[njmuscleguy]

ranger, buddy... appreciate all that info... sounds awesome... but you're not on HRT, right? that's the main difference and it's what I'm trying to find out... for guys who are on HRT for life, and can never really "recover" their natural test levels, I wanna hear what results / effects products like these have had on them... because I keep hearing great things, but only for guys who have otherwise normal natty test levels and cycle AAS.

Thanks though!

 

[Ranger11B]

Yea im not on hrt, just giving input from a natty perspective just in the thoughts that if it does what it does for me it should do somthing for some one on hrt. There was a post i think its a page or two back title public apology to needto, not sure if this guy was hrt but i know he had a condition that hcgen fixed. Good luck bro .

 

[Stryker1992]

Folks,

As you know, I was a very active member of EF for years, then took a long break, and now I'm back. Most of my EF peeps know that I'm no newbie, and I've tried my share of products out there.

In the arena of "pro-hormones", "PCT products", "test boosters", I've certainly tried my share of those as well. I've gotta say, that alot of them were worthless for me and I feel it's because I am on HRT and frankly, alot of them were garbage.

So now that I'm back, I see alot of talk of some newer products... I wanna hear from guys who cycle, and are on HRT and have used test-boosting / recovery products like HCGenerate, Phytoserms, etc... What has been your experience with these kinds of products? Obviously they won't do much to boost your natural test, but do they have any benefits as far as libido, strength, feeling of well-being etc, perhaps via mechanisms other than testosterone-boosting?

Thanks!

Bro..those are only a couple and there are some new products like DAA now as well. I can tell you I love HCGenerate and phyto when I am not on cycle. Definitely positively impact sex drive. The new DAA added to one of those is going to blow things off the lid bro! As far as how they work biochemically check the infomration out at needtobuildmuscle.com

 

[njmuscleguy]

Bro..those are only a couple and there are some new products like DAA now as well. I can tell you I love HCGenerate and phyto when I am not on cycle. Definitely positively impact sex drive. The new DAA added to one of those is going to blow things off the lid bro! As far as how they work biochemically check the infomration out at needtobuildmuscle.com

yup, I mentioned DAA as well...I've read about DAA... in fact, the results of DAA are debated these days... the quantity required to produce the (I think I read) 33% increase in testosterone in the ONE study out there, was 3grams per day... I dunno how much is in any of the supplements out there, but I know you can get it in bulk... so I may try DAA

I still need to figure out if any of this stuff is beneficial to HRT guys... I guess I'm gonna have to find out for myself

thanks for the feedback dude!

 

[Stryker1992]

yup, I mentioned DAA as well...I've read about DAA... in fact, the results of DAA are debated these days... the quantity required to produce the (I think I read) 33% increase in testosterone in the ONE study out there, was 3grams per day... I dunno how much is in any of the supplements out there, but I know you can get it in bulk... so I may try DAA

I still need to figure out if any of this stuff is beneficial to HRT guys... I guess I'm gonna have to find out for myself

thanks for the feedback dude!

Beneficial in what way...most HRT guys take HCG...HCGenerate will fill that spot to prevent total shutdown.

Brdige and phytoserms can be used when not on cycle to naturally boost levels and continue grwoth or at minimum maintain gains.

forma stanzol is another product that you did not mention that natty boosts test and lowers estrogen.

Finally epi strong will be coming out again soon and that lowers estrogen levels and boosts test but does require pct....

 

[Ranger11B]

yea like i was saying hcgen i believe is a sure bet. im experimenting with daa mainly bc it was cheap from ntbm and i plan to post up. forma we all know is legit but i think thats being replaced by rls new 60 day quantity. I mean it would be a good post up if you do for other guys that are in your shoes

 

[njmuscleguy]

Beneficial in what way...most HRT guys take HCG...HCGenerate will fill that spot to prevent total shutdown.

Brdige and phytoserms can be used when not on cycle to naturally boost levels and continue grwoth or at minimum maintain gains.

forma stanzol is another product that you did not mention that natty boosts test and lowers estrogen.

Finally epi strong will be coming out again soon and that lowers estrogen levels and boosts test but does require pct....

well, I don't think most HRT guys are looking to increase natty test levels... if that was possible for them, they likely wouldn't have gone on HRT... I actually tried alot of OTC supplements before I went on, and they didn't help at the time

I've read up on forma stanzol, HCGenerate, phytoserms... they're of most interest to me right now because aside from raising natty test levels, they're proported to reduce SHBG, reduce estrogen levels, reduce progesterone receptor activity... now all those would be of interest to an HRT person, if the products truly do that... as far as increasing libido, I dunno if these products do that by virtue of raising test levels, in which case, that probably wouldn't happen in HRT cases, but if libido increases by virtue of all the other "benefits" I've listed, then that's a plus

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna give forma, HCGenerate and phytoserms a try... most likely one at a time, so I can see what each one does individually... I just wanted to hear if any other HRT'ers had experience or if the makers of those products had some solid study info...

 

[Liquid 2009]

Great info for great products