Problem!!!

[JKurz1]

Got a problem and need some help. I've been ordering from the source for the past cuple of months. I lie the gear, but every single time I inject, either quad, ass, delt, I swell up in that region, and it throbs for days......this could be test sus, eq, whatever....I've tried sticking gthe full 1 1/2 pin Ive tried half way, it doesnt matter....like tuesday I mixed eq and sus 250 and it's hard to walk today.....what the hell is the deal? am I allergic?

 

[halfcenturian]

Better send it to me for further examination.

 

[centy]

You may be having a reaction to a preservative in that gear. I'd suggest trying a different brand.

 

[JKurz1]

WHAT IF I MIXED IT WITH COTTONSEED OIL (STERILE)? Does anyone know where or if you can buy that at a local pharmacy or store or is it online only?

 

[Advisor_x]

same shit, you'll still be injecting what ever is making you swell........my advice suck it up and train hard.....

 

[HAYEZ]

...maybe the ba is to high in it ...cut it with sterile oil and try that ,anytime ive had somethign that swells me up i just cut it and tis fine...this prop a few years ago made golf ball size swelling on my leg...everyone told me to suck it up but how you gonna train when you cant move properly? so i bout sterile oil..get it from wherever you get your pins more then likely

 

[herblcure]

there are a ton of places to get it but remember this..there is a great article online about the contents of BA and BB and how you can actually relieve soreness from injections by lowering the BA content and adding BB.

Silly question but have done any other injections outside of gear and seen any swelling?

I am not one to say suck it up in this case because your body is telling you something and you need to determine what it is. On the other hand, are you massaging the area in order to move that shit around or are you simply injecting and going? I know that there are many people that simply dont spend enough time massaging the area..make sure you are not one of those people..

 

[OMEGA]

Better send it to me for further examination.

lol

 

[HAYEZ]

there are a ton of places to get it but remember this..there is a great article online about the contents of BA and BB and how you can actually relieve soreness from injections by lowering the BA content and adding BB.

Silly question but have done any other injections outside of gear and seen any swelling?

I am not one to say suck it up in this case because your body is telling you something and you need to determine what it is. On the other hand, are you massaging the area in order to move that shit around or are you simply injecting and going? I know that there are many people that simply dont spend enough time massaging the area..make sure you are not one of those people..

massaging helps alot...i always take my shot right before i get in the shower,then massage it for a few minutes and let hot water hit it while im doing it.

 

[safety4lyfe]

Got a problem and need some help. I've been ordering from the source for the past cuple of months. I lie the gear, but every single time I inject, either quad, ass, delt, I swell up in that region, and it throbs for days......this could be test sus, eq, whatever....I've tried sticking gthe full 1 1/2 pin Ive tried half way, it doesnt matter....like tuesday I mixed eq and sus 250 and it's hard to walk today.....what the hell is the deal? am I allergic?

have you tried heating the gear before inject?

lolZs...i like your avatar, tyson always makes me laugh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwFW834Mrcc

 

[xrsist]

bake it and try it again

 

[JKurz1]

safflower oil do the same thing??

 

[JKurz1]

o, got my cotton seed....came in two cylinder ike tubes, like lotion comes in. It says not for human consuption...hope its right. How do I add it....say I am doing 1cc of sus and 1cc of deca......1/2 cc cotton seed?

 

[JKurz1]

might be a dumb ass qut...but is the gear still working even though I get these painful lumps that go away after a few days and the soreness.....is it still getting to the muscles or just sitting there and disinigrating?

 

[Faizakafez]

yes it working...

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use grape seed oil if you can

 

[dbcooper]

...maybe the ba is to high in it ...cut it with sterile oil and try that ,anytime ive had somethign that swells me up i just cut it and tis fine...this prop a few years ago made golf ball size swelling on my leg...everyone told me to suck it up but how you gonna train when you cant move properly? so i bout sterile oil..get it from wherever you get your pins more then likely

yeah, u need a heat pad and massage the inj area, or get new gear, im assuming it is UG lab gear, lots of those guys are most likely overdosing on BA just to be on the safe side, if it were me i would stick with european pharm grade if possible

 

[jjmac]

I like grape-seed oil, heat it in oven, get a filter, filter it into vial as needed to thin or get some BB to thin it out. I've been there done that, sometimes there's no explanation, I've had the first 5 weeks hurt like hell than all of a sudded the last 7 don't hurt using the exact same stuff. If you have hairy legs or ass(NO SENATOR CRAIG) shave the injection spot, sometimes a hair will go in with the needle and swell up like you describe as well.

 

[JKurz1]

I like grape-seed oil, heat it in oven, get a filter, filter it into vial as needed to thin or get some BB to thin it out. I've been there done that, sometimes there's no explanation, I've had the first 5 weeks hurt like hell than all of a sudded the last 7 don't hurt using the exact same stuff. If you have hairy legs or ass(NO SENATOR CRAIG) shave the injection spot, sometimes a hair will go in with the needle and swell up like you describe as well.

can you explain this process to me in detaill....njot sure what you mean.. I got cotton seed oil and a ton of this gear, I would HATE to waste it....but its so painful the day or two after..

 

[james629]

lolZs...i like your avatar, tyson always makes me laugh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwFW834Mrcc

LOL that is some funny shit. He is an idiot.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Try baking it. Make sure to but a needle in the stopper to vent it so pressure doesn't build up inside the vial. This will help lower the BA levels in the gear, so if that was the issue, you'll be OK.
300 degrees for 20 minutes? Anybody?

 

[xrsist]

Try baking it. Make sure to but a needle in the stopper to vent it so pressure doesn't build up inside the vial. This will help lower the BA levels in the gear, so if that was the issue, you'll be OK.
300 degrees for 20 minutes? Anybody?

agreed

we do prop at 250 for 20mins

then shoot it before you train

 

[JKurz1]

agreed

we do prop at 250 for 20mins

then shoot it before you train

bigger problem....they are glass amps

 

[JKurz1]

yes it working...

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use grape seed oil if you can

Is that why Im 205 and got 305 bench last night??? LOL....July I was maxing around 160.....friggn ureal!!!!!!

 

[xrsist]

transfer to vials and bake or at least shoot it before you train

 

[JKurz1]

transfer to vials and bake or at least shoot it before you train

no its not the initial pain, its the pain that sets in days later

 

[xrsist]

no its not the initial pain, its the pain that sets in days later

i know what your saying bro, try it
if your doing bench one night shoot your delts before you go
if its squat night, shoot your glutes before you go
etc etc

this worked for 4 of us when we were using vet grade prop

 

[PhillyPA#1]

I bet its the lab. start with an A end end with an O by any chance?

 

[futurepro22]

I bet its the lab. start with an A end end with an O by any chance?

phillyPA i know what ur talking about . just started with that lab and damn! it takes 5 days for the injection soreness to go away!

 

[Tweakle]

baking doesn't really make any difference to the BA content.

unless it's H G you likely have gear made with cheap powder with a contaminant, raw deal took out the 'clean' suppliers in china (GO USA) leaving a lot of less reptuable guys to fill the void.

There's no blanket reccomendation, and as you didn't make it yourself you have no idea what the BA/BB content actually is. Cutting it with sterile oil and refiltering is pretty much the only thing you can do (.22u, assuming it was originally filtered with a .45u and the contaminants passed that size membrane filter)

 

[Tweakle]

every lump is potentially a sterile abcess, and the inflammation from a painful shot will cause muscle damage way above and beyond the injection granuloma (calcifying scar tissue in the muscle which is almost impossible to break down)

I dont personally think sucking it up and taking a bad shot is ever worth it when you can try to fix the problem

 

[PhillyPA#1]

phillyPA i know what ur talking about . just started with that lab and damn! it takes 5 days for the injection soreness to go away!

sucks huh. I had to stop using their sust bc of it. I switched to Phama grade and totally PAINLESS!! Im using their EQ now and it isn't nearly as bad.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I've never heard of UG's using amps.
I've never heard of anyone having problems with pharm grade amps.
Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it's just not in my realm of reality.
Hope you find a solution.

 

[xrsist]

I've never heard of UG's using amps.
I've never heard of anyone having problems with pharm grade amps.
Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it's just not in my realm of reality.
Hope you find a solution.

good point