Pro Hormones

[IncredibleHoss]

Anybody have any success with this.

I am NOT juicing but i do want something more than a creatine. Main goals obviously are size and strength.

Was just curious if anybody had any success with something such as Cellucor p6 black

I am a college student and just don't wanna buy a placebo effect.
Thanks fellas

 

[Rage-Of-Sparta]

ive heard good things about Havoc but have never tried it myself

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Anybody have any success with this.

I am NOT juicing but i do want something more than a creatine. Main goals obviously are size and strength.

Was just curious if anybody had any success with something such as Cellucor p6 black

I am a college student and just don't wanna buy a placebo effect.
Thanks fellas

Either one of these stacks will get you plenty of muscle size.One wet with more mass and strength and one lean with more vascularity.The Havoc one will be dry.The Pheravol V will be a little more wet.You can run any of those compounds alone and get plenty of gains also.Research online and you will find the truth.
http://www.supplements911.com/index...-pheravol-liverator-cyclo-tren/prod_2039.html
http://www.supplements911.com/rpn/t...yclo-tren-havoc-cycle-support-/prod_2074.html

 

[bigdofba]

Anybody have any success with this.

I am NOT juicing but i do want something more than a creatine. Main goals obviously are size and strength.

Was just curious if anybody had any success with something such as Cellucor p6 black

I am a college student and just don't wanna buy a placebo effect.
Thanks fellas

If you have never used a pro-hormone before I would suggest that you just use one product for your first run. Thay way you will know if it works or not. If you stack a lot of things together you might not know what's working and what's not.

Personally, I have used Epistane and it did nothing but make me sick. I used the compound that's in cyclotren and loved it! It gave me headaches and made me sweat a lot but strength gains went up, energy went up, and I became more vascular.

I have studied up on pro-hormones and imo these are some of the best.

Cyclotren
Havoc
Pheraplex
M-Drol (It's a superdrol clone)

There are some products out there that have a lot of these compounds mixed together as one. I wouldn't recommened taking these due to sides and stress on the liver.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

If you have never used a pro-hormone before I would suggest that you just use one product for your first run. Thay way you will know if it works or not. If you stack a lot of things together you might not know what's working and what's not.

Personally, I have used Epistane and it did nothing but make me sick. I used the compound that's in cyclotren and loved it! It gave me headaches and made me sweat a lot but strength gains went up, energy went up, and I became more vascular.

I have studied up on pro-hormones and imo these are some of the best.

Cyclotren
Havoc
Pheraplex
M-Drol (It's a superdrol clone)

There are some products out there that have a lot of these compounds mixed together as one. I wouldn't recommened taking these due to sides and stress on the liver.

Quality advice right here.K to you my friend.

 

[bigdofba]

Quality advice right here.K to you my friend.

Appreciate it.

If I was the OP of this thread I would purchase the stack on Justaddmuscle but hold off on using it until your second run. It's going to get banned soon and the price on it is pretty good. It wouldn't hurt to put it away for a while.

Try out Havoc or Cyclotren by themselves first. After you use that and like it, then combine the two and you will have a nice second cycle!

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Id go with a Cyclotren (non-methylated) for 2 months and throw in Havoc for the 2nd month of that, maybe grab some Dermacrine and run it for the full 60 days.

Should be a very nice stack Accually might be what Im ordering tomorrow!

-Legacy

 

[bigdofba]

I'm not going to lie, I used Dermacrine and the cyclotren compound together. It worked great for me.

 

[IncredibleHoss]

So i'm thinking of soley just starting Havoc.
I'm guessing I need to put more time into the gym before i start cycling.

So havoc along with hard work and agood diet should get me some quick mass back.

for 190 lbs should i be taking 2.

Any PCT after?

Thanks so much for the responses.

 

[Elementality]

So i'm thinking of soley just starting Havoc.
I'm guessing I need to put more time into the gym before i start cycling.

So havoc along with hard work and agood diet should get me some quick mass back.

for 190 lbs should i be taking 2.

Any PCT after?

Thanks so much for the responses.

run havoc like 30/30/30/40 or 20/30/40/40. PCT is easy, just look around on google or forums for what people have PCT for this, all over the place. I'm running nolva + PCS.

 

[ALIN]

ive heard good things about Havoc but have never tried it myself

WHAT is the active ingredient in HAVOC?

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

WHAT is the active ingredient in HAVOC?

2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Epistane

 

[dabuffguy]

Anybody have any success with this.

I am NOT juicing but i do want something more than a creatine. Main goals obviously are size and strength.

Was just curious if anybody had any success with something such as Cellucor p6 black

I am a college student and just don't wanna buy a placebo effect.
Thanks fellas

FYI, using these products IS juicing. They're just AAS that aren't illegal yet really. P-plex and superdrol clones are pretty hardcore shit.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Anybody have any success with this.

I am NOT juicing but i do want something more than a creatine. Main goals obviously are size and strength.

Was just curious if anybody had any success with something such as Cellucor p6 black

I am a college student and just don't wanna buy a placebo effect.
Thanks fellas

Bro, prohormones are steroids. Not sure if you know that. Technically, you will be "juicing" if you take prohormones.