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Pro Bodybuilders and PCT

I have many friends in the industry. A lot of lower tier bbers are on year round. Once they win a show or two they start to pick and choose their shows. They do this so they can take time off and let their bodies recover.
You would be surprised how much some pro's use (the ones that don't place well) and how little others use (some have finished in the top four in shows clean or on as little as 200mgs a week).
The majority work with knowledgeable people who help them take care of their bodies the best that they can. HCG and Clomid are a huge part of that.
 
i think it's more like HRT when they retire

most of these guys are beyond PCT, especially at the top eschelon

something tells me that HCG, Nolvadex and Clomid won't help Ruhl much when he gives it up.
 
Hey I'm only asking because PCT never did jack for me! 10 years ago I started doing this. And I did do the short 6-8 week cycles. I did do PCT and found that I suffered a lot during OFF cycle.

Libido, mind, physic etc etc. All shit!! But I continued to do cycles and PCT. About 5 years into the game and about 110lbs later...I decided to really come off! For good!!! Never to touch another drug ever.

So I did PCT like both a few vets and my doctor told me to do. But I never returned back to normal. I started to lose everything I worked so hard for....FAST!!! My behavior was total crap!! I was just a total mess for about 4 months!!!

I went to the doc and got bloodwork done. Everything was out of whack! Nothing wanted to return to at least an acceptable level. It just clearly looks like PCT was NOT working. So ever since then...I have been on HRT.

So the question comes to mind. Do Pros do PCT? And if so....why? Don't they lose all they worked for? Shit! Even my doc told me that your own hormones cannot sustain that much muscle. And that within a short time...everything will eat up!

If they do PCT...do they really recover??
 
your docs right,,,the human body simply is not made to be as big as we make it lol,,a Perfect example of this is Kevin Lovone...i mean this guy used to be a monster and in a very short time ( were talking like a yr ) the guy has probably LITERALY LOST 45 LBS OF PURE MUSCLE....( HE WANTS TO BE A ACTOR )

BIC,
 
utahbic said:
your docs right,,,the human body simply is not made to be as big as we make it lol,,a Perfect example of this is Kevin Lovone...i mean this guy used to be a monster and in a very short time ( were talking like a yr ) the guy has probably LITERALY LOST 45 LBS OF PURE MUSCLE....( HE WANTS TO BE A ACTOR )

BIC,


yea, but that is someone who was never ment to be that big in the fist place. You have wrestler who are huge, agound the 300 lb mark, and ripped. There is no way they could be on year round. I dont think you could be on Dbol or high dose of test and be running up and down a ring for that long a couple times a week. Thats why when they have off time they usually come back bigger or in better shape. And you dont see them stedy loosing weight. So yea some people can maintain very large muscle mass without continually cycling or staying on.
 
Mr. Black said:
What all was out of whack besides your testosterone?

Test was low..total and free. Estrogen was a tiny bit high. Cortisol was high. IGF-1 was shit. What else can i say! Nothign was good.
 
That sux , but just what they told me ,the firt time i started working out again after 3 years off... how long u been slacking i say 3 years ,well that how far off i was at getting back in shape ,of course i went straight on juice after a few month of training , so ur problem is the same , just reverse it u were on it for 10 years on and off ,, is not gona go back to normal in a few month give it a year or so at least ..my 2 cents dont give up u be ok..
 
gottis said:
That sux , but just what they told me ,the firt time i started working out again after 3 years off... how long u been slacking i say 3 years ,well that how far off i was at getting back in shape ,of course i went straight on juice after a few month of training , so ur problem is the same , just reverse it u were on it for 10 years on and off ,, is not gona go back to normal in a few month give it a year or so at least ..my 2 cents dont give up u be ok..

I did give it time. About 1.5 years! And no success!!!
 
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