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Primobolan?

Been doing quite a bit of research and read a lot bout primobolan depot.
Im roughly 175ib 5'8'' and wanting to bulk whilst keeping my bodyfat to a minimal. Will taking primobolan stacked with either d.bol or winny be any use for me? thanks
 
Nope - w/ those stats you need to condiser the following:

Eggs/Red Meat/Chicken

I would stack them together for say 1 full year then do some PCT w/ Turkey and Yams. After that you should be big ehough to consider taking steroids - maybe.
 
this forum proper sucks! All im wantin is information...not sarcastic remarks! first cycle i had was test e which shot me from 150 to 180ibs...all im wantin is info on stackin with primobolan which im no up 2 scratch with!!
 
How old are you,

If this is your second cycle,

Primo and Test, anti-e and pct

No orals, no fina, no winny, no d-bol


If you are under 24, consider the above post good information, no need to do gear until you are about 25, everyone is different, but we see a lot of teen agers here and that is really too young.

For a lot of reasons. One you are still growing, and you will stop with your first injection and two, you still have a lot natural test.

If you are thin skinned and don’t like constructive criticism, this is probably the wrong board for you.
 
solidspine said:
If you are thin skinned and don’t like constructive criticism, this is probably the wrong board for you.

SOme people will sugar coat it, but 180 or 150 it does not matter - you are WAY too small to take juice - you don't need it - you need food.

Why not get to 200 natural and then see what you want to do.
 
It would be decent for a MAN - not a 24yr old looking to get cut for the bitches. You aren't big enough for steroids.

And if you can't afford $11 for a plat membership than maybe buying gear is an even worse idea. I think having a very stable life (money, job, family, etc) is crucial while on cycle.
 
Hey, you are big enough to get bigger. At age 24 if you made that choice then read the hell out of all AAs advise. Your diet is what will keep you lean, but you seem like you want to bulk. Eat big to get big. Test e and deca or EQ would be good. Read up. You are a man, even if you are 180 lbs. Don't listen to all the shit you read. And you don't have to go plat or have a family or even pay your bills if you don't want to. We're not your dad.
 
The kid asks for advice. During your rant/advice you imply that he can't afford to be plat, is WAY too small, and somehow is less than a man in your reasoning. 24 years old is old enough to die for your country. I'd say he's a man. What is your agenda to demean this guy all about? I'd say you're lucky he doesn't just bitch slap the fuck out of you. Count your blessings, son, life's too short to be so angry.
 
Al420- I'm hoping your silence means you agree that your advice theory does need to be revamped. That's cool. Another lost sheep brought back to the flock. jk
 
wags8 said:
The kid asks for advice. During your rant/advice you imply that he can't afford to be plat, is WAY too small, and somehow is less than a man in your reasoning. 24 years old is old enough to die for your country. I'd say he's a man. What is your agenda to demean this guy all about? I'd say you're lucky he doesn't just bitch slap the fuck out of you. Count your blessings, son, life's too short to be so angry.

He is way to small as I assume you must be as well. Sorry, but if you "did one cycle and went from 150 to 180" and are now "5'8" and 150" then you have issues that are easily solved w/ food not gear.

Yes - if you can't afford $11 a month and are considering buying gear you are a moron.

And BTW - nothing at 150lbs is slapping me.
 
Dude, being able to read is key to giving advice. He said he was 175 lbs. I'm 6-1 240 if that somehow gains me credibility. But it shouldn't... That's my point. What if he just doesn't choose to go plat? I'm not, but I can afford it. How do you continue to give this fucked up advice? There are a lot of recreational bodybuilders on this board that are not 200 lbs. , that juice and ask for tips and give out advice. What is your phobia about smaller statured guys? Have you been humiliated by a smaller guy in the gym and just can't shake it? Get over it. You don't have to have a stable family, be a plat member, and be over 200 lbs to ask for help about steroids! WTF?
 
Dude I was 180 when i went over seas for this war. Came home about 155. Lifted till I got back to 180 and ate like motherfucker. Started a cycle. Up to 203lbs and growing. 26years old. Just read threads on aas. Be able to sift through the bullshit. Look at other peoples cycles and what vets have said about them. If your looking to get bigger but stay lean you wont be able to put on alot of weight. Your going to need to pack on lbs. with a cycle and watch your diet. When you finish your bulk cycle you will lose water weight. As long as you do a correct PCT you should keep most of the muscle. Wait as many weeks as you were on to let your body recover before you do another cycle but this time do a cut cycle. Read, read, read. dont just ask silly questions go through old threads and read the ones that have a title close to what you were going to ask. Too many guys come in here thinking this is a class when it is more like a discussion for people who know alot already. Some guys get tired of answering the same questions from novices over and over again. Good luck.
 
Snowy, first of all, thank you for your service overseas. Sincerely. Secondly, thank you for the example you have set in this debate by actually living out what I'm trying to explain. You were under 200 lbs, you are no doubt a man even in your early twenties. You would have been subject to the same ridicule from al430 had you been unfortunate enough to have him answer your newby posts. Isn't the whole idea of this forum to help little guys be big guys? It does wonders for your self esteem, in my opinion. Some guys, that's all they need, to feel better about how they look. It improved my lifestyle, my confidence right from my first little cycle. Why in the world would someone look down on a person cause the poor fucker's only 175 lbs? Let's get to the basics. Give advice to help little guys be big motherfuckers. I was taught the only time you look down on a man is when your helping him up.
 
Get fucked you tool and leave me out of your posts. In this entire thread you have given NO advice at all.... so who is the assclown? (it is you in case you are wondering).

To me it's simple - If your broke then your diet and PCT won't be inline. If you are young and broke and too lazy to do real research than chances for exagerated sides is always an issue - this is not a board to have your pussy held tight until you fall alseep at night - he asked question and got answers - maybe you should get back you eating his asshole.

And BTW Plat members are the reason there is a board - do you think GS does this for free. You are a leech - pay up or get lost is my thought - especially from someone under 200lbs...lol
 
Believe me punk, You have to be able to read to communicate on this forum. You talk about manhood then proceed to resort to insults instead of logic. It takes a real man to insult someone on the internet. If you read any of my posts you would see advice...for you. I guess you're pissed to find out I'm 240. Get some serious help and quit giving fucked up advice, fat ass. Quit being so proud of your $11 per mo. membership and buy a real life. Instead you'll black this out of embarassment. Whatever. Renew your membership to the roid store while you're at it.
 
Yeah, heaven forbid that you lose 5 lbs, huh? I don't usually get pissed at dumb shit, but damn... Might be that tren cycle I'm on. Tren has shown to lower your tolerance towards idiocy. Says so right on the bottle.
 
Dude. Al420 you're such a fuck it's unbelievable. How is 5'9" and 180 too small? Those are my stats exactly and look at my avitar. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but seriously, I'm not sure I want to be any bigger. I would never want to weigh over 190 lbs. at this height. That's the fire-hydrant look everybody laughs at.

What fucking planet are you from that you think 180lbs. and cut is too small to be considered a man? Looking at the pictures in your profile gives me a clue. You probably can't wipe your own ass...
 
I rest my case. I was getting winded sticking up for you little fuckers. Just kidding, man. Your avatar proves my point. Now when he blacks me out, cuz he's shamed, you 180 guys gotta bail me out.
 
beachstud said:
Dude. Al420 you're such a fuck it's unbelievable. How is 5'9" and 180 too small? Those are my stats exactly and look at my avitar. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but seriously, I'm not sure I want to be any bigger. I would never want to weigh over 190 lbs. at this height. That's the fire-hydrant look everybody laughs at.

What fucking planet are you from that you think 180lbs. and cut is too small to be considered a man? Looking at the pictures in your profile gives me a clue. You probably can't wipe your own ass...

I'm 5'9 at about 195lbs....

I'm not sure if anyone laughs at me... :worried:
 
Boston- if that's you in your avatar, they do. I've got a buddy that's 5-9, 200 lbs. He hits a softball so hard and so far that we laugh because it is rediculous. Much respect, bro.
 
boston789 said:
I'm 5'9 at about 195lbs....

I'm not sure if anyone laughs at me... :worried:

Ha ha! I knew I'd piss somebody off. You're only 5 lbs over my personal goal and I have chicken legs so it's safe to say we're on the same page here.

Everyone has their own ideal, mine is most certainly not al420's. 5'9" 195 lbs at 11% would be hard to be mad at. 200lbs is fine if you're into that 'look.'

My point is why talk all this shit about someone who's 180 wanting to take a mellow injectable like Primo to bulk up a bit? Granted at 24 he's a little young, but not THAT young. Primo sounds like a sane choice for someone at that height/weight/age.

This guy al420 just jumps in outta nowhere making claims that anyone who's lighter than 200 lbs has no business doing AAS? What a faggot.
 
Those are great stats Boston. Plus a lot depends on bone structure and genetics too.

Truth be told, I'll probably end up around 190 in a few years. I just think Al420's a dick for jumping all over a guy's case for being 180 and wanting to do Primo.

Hell, I started my 1st injectable cycle at under 165. I lifted pretty hard for almost 10 years and never got above 170. Three months of juicy goodness and now I'm a happier man at 185. Here's a link to my progress pics.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...056#post6537056

If AAS are not for turning scrawny dudes like me into twisted steel and sex appeal, what the hell are they for?
 
beachstud said:
Those are great stats Boston. Plus a lot depends on bone structure and genetics too.

Truth be told, I'll probably end up around 190 in a few years. I just think Al420's a dick for jumping all over a guy's case for being 180 and wanting to do Primo.

Hell, I started my 1st injectable cycle at under 165. I lifted pretty hard for almost 10 years and never got above 170. Three months of juicy goodness and now I'm a happier man at 185. Here's a link to my progress pics.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...056#post6537056

If AAS are not for turning scrawny dudes like me into twisted steel and sex appeal, what the hell are they for?



progress pictures link isn't working for me.

agreeing with what you said. myself im a bigger guy trying to cut, man i wish i was your size with that mass. sheeit, weight don't mean shit, it's how you look, if you guys are matching hieght and weight and bf is comparable, sheeit. shoot it up bros. and the one thing al did say that was worth reading was while your shooting, eat the shit outta some food. and then cut like the other guy said, i just ran a two bulkers and now upping the cardio big time to get cut before i bulk again. might run a cutter, might run it with primo, with all these replies though nobody still has said a damn statistic about what to expect from primo or it's sides, so if any good bros got something to share about it, lets' hear it :)

who can afford plat when they're paying for "primo" hehehehehehe
 
al420 said:
And BTW Plat members are the reason there is a board - do you think GS does this for free. You are a leech - pay up or get lost is my thought - especially from someone under 200lbs...lol

get over yourself. :rolleyes:
 
In the two years of reading on this site, I don't recall someone having a meltdown like that. He pulled a Kramer, except he hates little guys. Hopefully he's not that bad a guy, just having a bad week. I can find it in my heart to forgive him for calling me a butt muncher or whatever. Tis the season. Peace on earth, goodwill to juicers.
 
beachstud said:
Oops. Sorry. Here's the link to my progress pics.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501655&page=3

I totally hear ya Jager. Love your posts and LOVE your Avitar. That chick is amazing. Please tell me you're hittin' that!


hehe, naw, not hittin that, she looks good but my woman looks better :P

good job on your progress bro. what cut you like that dude, just diet and cardio????? or did you run something else, fuck , i would think deca and test you'd finished all bloated.

what scared you with the deca???
 
jagerbombme said:
hehe, naw, not hittin that, she looks good but my woman looks better :P

good job on your progress bro. what cut you like that dude, just diet and cardio????? or did you run something else, fuck , i would think deca and test you'd finished all bloated.

what scared you with the deca???

Thanks dogg. The Anavar sure didn't hurt, nor did the Winny. I didn't do hardly any cardio while I was on. It always felt like I was robbing myself of potential nutrients and mass if I went running.

My diet wasn't that great either. I drank a couple of times a week while I was on. The one thing I did do was down a lot of protein shakes and bars. I have no problem putting away that shit, especially with frozen blueberries and a banana in Myoplex Vanilla. Eating is a pain in the ass for me so the shakes became a habit.

The thing that scared me was I thought I might be getting DecaDick around week 8. Never really had a problem getting hard but I had trouble nutting quite a bit. Looking back it was probably because I was banging 3 chicks, multiple times per day, in strict rotation (it was an AWESOME summer), not to mention jerking off at least once a day. I'm definitely a sex addict anyway so Test just made me go bananas. Calmed down a bit and chose a girl I'm crazy in love with... (I'm totally whooped now--can't imagine banging any other girls).

I did do a little Deca with my last cycle (500 Test-E/250 Deca) and had no problems so I haven't sworn it off yet. Going to try NPP sometime next year for the hell of it. Thanks for the props Jager. Your posts always crack me the fuck up.
 
beachstud said:
Dude. Al420 you're such a fuck it's unbelievable. How is 5'9" and 180 too small? Those are my stats exactly and look at my avitar. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but seriously, I'm not sure I want to be any bigger. I would never want to weigh over 190 lbs. at this height. That's the fire-hydrant look everybody laughs at.

What fucking planet are you from that you think 180lbs. and cut is too small to be considered a man? Looking at the pictures in your profile gives me a clue. You probably can't wipe your own ass...
My exact weight I get up to 193lbs looked like shit bloated as a mf. With my bone structure I would look funny over 200lbs I boxed in the Golden Gloves at 132lbs that was only five years ago. To the original qustion I would do primo at a least 600mg a week and I would do var or test with it.
 
sounds like ol' buddy is a str8 up meat head who thinks its cool to be big and little people are useless in the world. but hey im 6'2'' 330....

how the fuck do you figure someone is too small for juice. some people just wont fucking grow no matter how much food you jam down there fucking throats.

in case al420 didn't know not one person in this world has the exact same genetics.

and your comments are spoken like a true douche bag.
 
mookie said:
My exact weight I get up to 193lbs looked like shit bloated as a mf. With my bone structure I would look funny over 200lbs I boxed in the Golden Gloves at 132lbs that was only five years ago. To the original qustion I would do primo at a least 600mg a week and I would do var or test with it.


there we go, how bout libido with primo and var? does primo kick it up?
 
beachstud said:
Thanks dogg. The Anavar sure didn't hurt, nor did the Winny. I didn't do hardly any cardio while I was on. It always felt like I was robbing myself of potential nutrients and mass if I went running.

My diet wasn't that great either. I drank a couple of times a week while I was on. The one thing I did do was down a lot of protein shakes and bars. I have no problem putting away that shit, especially with frozen blueberries and a banana in Myoplex Vanilla. Eating is a pain in the ass for me so the shakes became a habit.

The thing that scared me was I thought I might be getting DecaDick around week 8. Never really had a problem getting hard but I had trouble nutting quite a bit. Looking back it was probably because I was banging 3 chicks, multiple times per day, in strict rotation (it was an AWESOME summer), not to mention jerking off at least once a day. I'm definitely a sex addict anyway so Test just made me go bananas. Calmed down a bit and chose a girl I'm crazy in love with... (I'm totally whooped now--can't imagine banging any other girls).

I did do a little Deca with my last cycle (500 Test-E/250 Deca) and had no problems so I haven't sworn it off yet. Going to try NPP sometime next year for the hell of it. Thanks for the props Jager. Your posts always crack me the fuck up.


np, i didn't know anyone actually read my posts.... thanks :)
 
jagerbombme said:
there we go, how bout libido with primo and var? does primo kick it up?
Never had libido problem with var but I usually run it with 50mg of proviron. Ever cycle I ran was with proviron never had a libido problem.
 
al420 said:
He is way to small as I assume you must be as well. Sorry, but if you "did one cycle and went from 150 to 180" and are now "5'8" and 150" then you have issues that are easily solved w/ food not gear.

Yes - if you can't afford $11 a month and are considering buying gear you are a moron.

And BTW - nothing at 150lbs is slapping me.

With all the BS you have said, none of it was useful, you are useless, if you not going to say something helpful, dont say anything at all......If he has done the research and still thinks he should do it, then he probably knows if he is ready to do it or not.


P.S. iT DOSENT MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WAY AS LONG AS YOUR UNDER 15% BF, DONE YOUR RESEARCH, IT ALSO DOSENT MATTER HOW TALL YOU ARE, OR HOW OLD YOU ARE ( AS LONG AS YOU OVER 17 OR 18 AND DO IT RIGHT, UNLESS YOU DONT CARE, ITS YOUR LIFE) Theirs alor of a-hole on this board, but some of them are good people who know what their talking about.
 
Ben Dovergurl said:
fighting on the internet is like running in the special olympics......even if you win ....you're still retarded... :chomp:


nice.....
 
I started at 150- and am at 185-190 now after and looking+feeling great with bloodwork to show it, thats after 2 cycles. Ive learned alot but don't knock someone for wanting to start at 150 lbs. Im 5'9 and have done my research and will continue to cycle until doc's tell me not too =)
 
al420 said:
Get fucked you tool and leave me out of your posts. In this entire thread you have given NO advice at all.... so who is the assclown? (it is you in case you are wondering).

To me it's simple - If your broke then your diet and PCT won't be inline. If you are young and broke and too lazy to do real research than chances for exagerated sides is always an issue - this is not a board to have your pussy held tight until you fall alseep at night - he asked question and got answers - maybe you should get back you eating his asshole.

And BTW Plat members are the reason there is a board - do you think GS does this for free. You are a leech - pay up or get lost is my thought - especially from someone under 200lbs...lol

You're totally out of line here. THe dude didn't even mention money and you trash him and call him "broke". TOtally uncalled for...
 
this thread went totally off topic,

speaking of primo my 800mg is finally kicking in, as i noticed in the mirror at the gym
 
al420.....go smoke some more of that good stuff...you need to chill out.

I'm doing 600 mg. weekly...in week 7, cant really tell so far.
 
nab12 said:
al420.....go smoke some more of that good stuff...you need to chill out.

I'm doing 600 mg. weekly...in week 7, cant really tell so far.


what are you stacking it with?

cutting?

what lab??
 
cycle was like this
weeks 1-15 sust 250 @ 500 mg. week
weeks 10-20 primo @ 600 mg. week

im in week 17 and I cant tell any differnce in my apperance or strength from about week 12


georgie24 said:
what are you stacking it with?

cutting?

what lab??
 
al420 said:
SOme people will sugar coat it, but 180 or 150 it does not matter - you are WAY too small to take juice - you don't need it - you need food.


That's a collosally ignorant generalization.


Have you not noticed that human beings tend to come in varying sizes? This man may have already attained his natural LBM max.
 
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