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Closest in terms of what? And why not just get Primo?
Thats like asking what's closest to a really good steak?
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ALIN
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Whats goals are you trying to accomplish?
Brigade8000
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Drostanolone (Masteron) is androgene and Methenolone (Primo) is very soft.
Nothing is primo. You can say Mast creates lean dry gains, but it's from and entirely different mechanism.
Some people say EQ is similar but I find the two as different as night and day.
Actually Tbol is pretty close, though too much will cause bloating and be toxic -- two things Primo will not do.
chino007
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get more cut my food intake is clean but i cant no lower 9% bf
chino007
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i run 4 miles eod my cardio is up 8 1/2 min a mile
^^^yeah bro the elliptical for 45 minutes isn't like running. I have an article up in the endurance section on the elliptical, its just momentum.. it is no where close to what running is. you run for 30 minutes or 45 minutes straight trust me you will definately shed away fat and muscle
you forget I was a competitive runner for 2 years. trust me on this. there is a pic of me on my profile of when i was a 5K and half marathon runner, i weighed 133 in that pic. today I weigh 185. runners are scrawny as hell, go to a 5K race sometime, they have very little mass on their frames. I hated being a scrawny guy thats why i got into bodybuilding, I love having mass
I'm not anti-cardio, I'm just saying there is a fail/safe point .. its hard for people to understand who haven't run a lot in their lives but there is a point where you will deplete yourself and the body will begin burning away fat and muscle. so yes DO CARDIO, but don't do too much if you want to keep your muscle.
you forget I was a competitive runner for 2 years. trust me on this. there is a pic of me on my profile of when i was a 5K and half marathon runner, i weighed 133 in that pic. today I weigh 185. runners are scrawny as hell, go to a 5K race sometime, they have very little mass on their frames. I hated being a scrawny guy thats why i got into bodybuilding, I love having mass
I'm not anti-cardio, I'm just saying there is a fail/safe point .. its hard for people to understand who haven't run a lot in their lives but there is a point where you will deplete yourself and the body will begin burning away fat and muscle. so yes DO CARDIO, but don't do too much if you want to keep your muscle.
you can either do what CK was saying on the elliptical or you can run 1mile ED or EOD. I'm assuming you want to build mass right? if you don't care then do all the cardio you want..
generally in my experience once i get 1.5 miles on a jog is when i stop. more than that and you can expect catabolism. but like i said above not everyone on here is looking to build mass. we have guys who want that beachboy look, strongmen, MMA fighters, boxers, all kinds of people.
when i give advice on here its geared towards bodybuilders
generally in my experience once i get 1.5 miles on a jog is when i stop. more than that and you can expect catabolism. but like i said above not everyone on here is looking to build mass. we have guys who want that beachboy look, strongmen, MMA fighters, boxers, all kinds of people.
when i give advice on here its geared towards bodybuilders
chino007
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trying to build more mass but lose fat hard to blance the two
yeah your cardio is fine.. i never said it wasn't. I'm just saying don't do TOO MUCH cardio. unless you want to turn into what I was as a runner, 133 pounds soaking wet.
1.5 miles ED is pretty close to what you are doing anyway.
and yes its hard to balance the two, no one said this was an easy sport.. but I love it.
1.5 miles ED is pretty close to what you are doing anyway.
and yes its hard to balance the two, no one said this was an easy sport.. but I love it.
bro do sprints,, work on exploding out of the gate for distances with good form & repeat.. Look at any sprinter even the women. You will see that they are cut up & pretty massive. You can look up any kind of sprint routine on most sites Or just Google it.... you will have to practice your form at first but once you get it down you will be using your whole body in an explosive way.. its all the cardio you will need.. good luck
