primo or var?

[informed09]

Looking to start a cutter. Will look something like this.

Test 250-375/wk
clen(2wk on 2 off)
T3 (taper up to 75mcg and back down)
Gh 2IU/day
Proper pct (adex throughout cycle)

Here is what im not sure of. Want to run either primo or var. Not looking to gain weight just looking to harden up and cut fat. will be on low calorie diet. Which of the 2 would you recomend? Was thinking primo 700-800/wk or var 80-100/wk. Let me know what you think. Remember lean is the goal here

 

[AhMadKooL]

If money is an issue In would go with var since it's cheaper...

You didn't mention how long your going to run each

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I would go with the var, I think primo is overrated and isnt worth the money..

If you can afford it 80mg/ed of Var would be ideal..

 

[Mr.X]

Looking to start a cutter. Will look something like this.

Test 250-375/wk
clen(2wk on 2 off)
T3 (taper up to 75mcg and back down)
Gh 2IU/day
Proper pct (adex throughout cycle)

Here is what im not sure of. Want to run either primo or var. Not looking to gain weight just looking to harden up and cut fat. will be on low calorie diet. Which of the 2 would you recomend? Was thinking primo 700-800/wk or var 80-100/wk. Let me know what you think. Remember lean is the goal here

I want to talk about your cutting diet first, what do you have planned?

 

[informed09]

Have talked to makaville bout it so I think its well covered.

 

[informed09]

My bad. Ten weeks on gear and clen, 6months gh, 5weeks of T3 at end of cycle.

If money is an issue In would go with var since it's cheaper...

You didn't mention how long your going to run each

 

[Bruce]

var at a high dose bro. lean gains without much weight gain and huge strength increase. primo is weak.

 

[informed09]

var seems to be the winner here. Anyone else? K to all

 

[ALIN]

Looking to start a cutter. Will look something like this.

Test 250-375/wk
clen(2wk on 2 off)
T3 (taper up to 75mcg and back down)
Gh 2IU/day
Proper pct (adex throughout cycle)

Here is what im not sure of. Want to run either primo or var. Not looking to gain weight just looking to harden up and cut fat. will be on low calorie diet. Which of the 2 would you recomend? Was thinking primo 700-800/wk or var 80-100/wk. Let me know what you think. Remember lean is the goal here

Up the Test to 500mg WK. Run some Anavar 40-60mg daily is all you should need.

 

[letsrun4it]

Var definitely man, don't let anyone ever tell you var is weak. Strength gains were sick at the start of my cycle.

 

[puddlemonkey]

Var over Primo

 

[bigtasty25]

var for so long i feel is a huge mistake...the stuff can kill your cholesterol #'s just as bad as most other orals, put stress on the liver, and kidneys, all orals can and will except maybe oral primo/proviron...it is an oral dont forget (var)...primo at 500mg works really well actually, and very low sides, that is, if cost isnt a factor...but to me my health comes first over price...thats just me though... if ure in this for the long run...

 

[drrman]

well im on both, and at a relatively high dosage of both

1000mg primo/week
100mg anavar/day

loving it so far! but im also on 500mg test/week, 600mg eq/week, and 4iu HGH/day, so hard to say its all the primo and var!

 

[blacksabbath1987]

well im on both, and at a relatively high dosage of both

1000mg primo/week
100mg anavar/day

loving it so far! but im also on 500mg test/week, 600mg eq/week, and 4iu HGH/day, so hard to say its all the primo and var!

80ed/var your wasting it!!!! 50 would be good and that is still high have milk thistle on hand and some tyler. just to be safe.

 

[gunnr17]

Def. go with var. I think 50-60ed is plenty though.

 

[drrman]

80ed/var your wasting it!!!! 50 would be good and that is still high have milk thistle on hand and some tyler. just to be safe.

again bro, you are on your first cycle ever and are telling me that i am wasting my var by taking over 50mg/day? i did my first cycle 9 years ago bro, i know my body and i know what dosages will do what, please don't come on here telling me with your very little experience that i am doing something wrong, if you decide to tell me im doing something wrong please post your reasons why you think so, your EXPERIENCE with the drugs in question and your maybe some research to back up your thoughts....i see NONE of these from you in your posts, you just mouth off information with no backing rather it be research or mainly experience


also for a side note, there are PLENTY of vets and plenty of experienced guys that have said magic happens on anavar at dosages over 80mg bro.......maybe i listen to vets with 10+ years experience before i try something as such

 

[Agent Dana Scully]

on a side, quick question cuz im about to start my first cycle, when you take var, do you feel anything immediately, like anything comparable to a cns stimulant, or do you notice change in stuff like behavior with time?

Just curious, cuz i use to get a lot of anxiety attacks, and i've always been precautious because i don't want to take something, become a hypochondriac and wig out.

 

[drrman]

on a side, quick question cuz im about to start my first cycle, when you take var, do you feel anything immediately, like anything comparable to a cns stimulant, or do you notice change in stuff like behavior with time?

Just curious, cuz i use to get a lot of anxiety attacks, and i've always been precautious because i don't want to take something, become a hypochondriac and wig out.

NO bro, there is no immediate feeling or effects from taking var, its probably the safest of all things you could take, and i've never experienced or heard anything about any anxiety from anavar!

 

[blacksabbath1987]

again bro, you are on your first cycle ever and are telling me that i am wasting my var by taking over 50mg/day? i did my first cycle 9 years ago bro, i know my body and i know what dosages will do what, please don't come on here telling me with your very little experience that i am doing something wrong, if you decide to tell me im doing something wrong please post your reasons why you think so, your EXPERIENCE with the drugs in question and your maybe some research to back up your thoughts....i see NONE of these from you in your posts, you just mouth off information with no backing rather it be research or mainly experience

as a matter of fact im running var now!!!!!!!and just because i have not done enough.does not mean i dont know. you dont see me on here asking how to do proper pct do yah!!! no !!!because i workout out with two great big fuckers that know their shit to. they are my trainers. and as far as var!!!! i have 3000 of the 25mg ones and dont think i havent tested the water with all that i have. i am not giving out advice to other AS that i dont know that much about BRO!!! JUST THE ONES I HAVE TRIED!!! so back off!!!!!! as far as i can see the time i have been on this site i have done my research and learned more than enough to accomidate others if needed you have road my ass everytime i post.back off!!!! my training is as intense as it gets i fight mma and i am the best at everything i do.i except no substitutes!!! i make things happen!!!.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Better watch out drrman, he trains with 2 big fuckers.. lmao..

 

[blacksabbath1987]

as a matter of fact im running var now!!!!!!!and just because i have not done enough.does not mean i dont know. you dont see me on here asking how to do proper pct do yah!!! no !!!because i workout out with two great big fuckers that know their shit to. they are my trainers. and as far as var!!!! i have 3000 of the 25mg ones and dont think i havent tested the water with all that i have. i am not giving out advice to other AS that i dont know that much about BRO!!! JUST THE ONES I HAVE TRIED!!! so back off!!!!!! as far as i can see the time i have been on this site i have done my research and learned more than enough to accomidate others if needed you have road my ass everytime i post.back off!!!! my training is as intense as it gets i fight mma and i am the best at everything i do.i except no substitutes!!! i make things happen!!!.

besides that i was pointed this to informed09 and if this hisd first chcle he does not nedd to start at 100mg/ed/ of var with test that is just to much for first cycle.and yes you will need milk thistle/ and get your blood work done before you start.that way you will know all your percentages. good luck

 

[drrman]

as a matter of fact im running var now!!!!!!!and just because i have not done enough.does not mean i dont know. you dont see me on here asking how to do proper pct do yah!!! no !!!because i workout out with two great big fuckers that know their shit to. they are my trainers. and as far as var!!!! i have 3000 of the 25mg ones and dont think i havent tested the water with all that i have. i am not giving out advice to other AS that i dont know that much about BRO!!! JUST THE ONES I HAVE TRIED!!! so back off!!!!!! as far as i can see the time i have been on this site i have done my research and learned more than enough to accomidate others if needed you have road my ass everytime i post.back off!!!! my training is as intense as it gets i fight mma and i am the best at everything i do.i except no substitutes!!! i make things happen!!!.

so this is your first cycle with anavar and you have already determined from this ONE cycle you haven't even finished that anavar at over 50mg/day is a waste? you determined all that from one cycle? did you run 100mg for 2 days and didn't gain any weight so you deduced that fact? there is no way you know anything from your current cycle of anavar except for maybe it worked for you or it doesn't, unless you ran an enitre cycle at 100mg/day can you say this?

and just because you work out with two big fuckers doesn't mean anything bro.......not trying to be a dick but i've caught you posting information many many times when you just spout off at the mouth with some info as if you have been there done that when you are doing nothing be relaying some other information you have heard.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

Better watch out drrman, he trains with 2 big fuckers.. lmao..

another smart ass. you guys are big on the computer arent yah!!!!!!

 

[drrman]

and bro, i wasn't suggesting that this guy run 100mg/anavar per day, i was just stating that both primo and anavar can be used and used with good effects.........i would think from my years on here, my previous posts and the entire cycle i laid out of mine on that post that one would infer that i am not a beginner

 

[drrman]

another smart ass. you guys are big on the computer arent yah!!!!!!

im not small in real life either bro.....hate to break that to ya.........9 years of aas, and 12 years of training and 6 years on this board i feel as if i've earned enough respect i dont' need to hide as anything behind my computer

 

[drrman]

besides that i was pointed this to informed09 and if this hisd first chcle he does not nedd to start at 100mg/ed/ of var with test that is just to much for first cycle.and yes you will need milk thistle/ and get your blood work done before you start.that way you will know all your percentages. good luck

ok Blacksabbath, lets just drop this entire thing, but please do me a favor and try not to give ME advice on a thread where another guy posted wanting advice for himself, if i want your advice bro i'll make a post and ask for it........but i don't think i'll be doing the like

 

[blacksabbath1987]

and bro, i wasn't suggesting that this guy run 100mg/anavar per day, i was just stating that both primo and anavar can be used and used with good effects.........i would think from my years on here, my previous posts and the entire cycle i laid out of mine on that post that one would infer that i am not a beginner

agreed on your experience!!but even though var is low i think that the 40 to 50 range would be a good start.

 

[drrman]

agreed on your experience!!but even though var is low i think that the 40 to 50 range would be a good start.

ok, i agree with you on this one bro, for this guy especially, i probably shouldn't have posted those dosages of mine for a new guy, as it may have portrayed i thought that was the proper dosages for a beginner

 

[Agent Dana Scully]

NO bro, there is no immediate feeling or effects from taking var, its probably the safest of all things you could take, and i've never experienced or heard anything about any anxiety from anavar!

GOOD SHIT! That settles it, im withdrawing from my college savings account and running var at 2000 mg a day

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

another smart ass. you guys are big on the computer arent yah!!!!!!

Apparently not as big as the 2 big fuckers you train with.. Ive been training since 1988, and have 10+ years of aas use under my belt. Do I know everything? Absolutely not.. So I usually dont say anything, but may offer some advice on what I do know. I feel I have enough experience to offer my opinion. But I have noticed you chime in on alot of threads and offer aas advice, which you know nothing about. ( I was even PMed about it) You go on what you have heard from your 2 big fuckers.. This is your first aas cycle, so get a few underneath you, then maybe offer some feedback..

 

[AhMadKooL]

well im on both, and at a relatively high dosage of both

1000mg primo/week
100mg anavar/day

loving it so far! but im also on 500mg test/week, 600mg eq/week, and 4iu HGH/day, so hard to say its all the primo and var!

I love var at 100mg/day; great strength and lean muscle gains.

1 g of primo is the icing on the cake; maybe i'll try your cycle next...

Best of luck bro with your cycle

 

[blacksabbath1987]

agreed on your experience!!but even though var is low i think that the 40 to 50 range would be a good start.

and yeah i dont have to hide either i am always looking for a good fight!!!! and i have been fighting since i was 12 years old.jiu-jitsu rules

 

[drrman]

and yeah i dont have to hide either i am always looking for a good fight!!!! and i have been fighting since i was 12 years old.jiu-jitsu rules

ok ok ok, lets drop this shit, no one is gonna fight on here bro, its one thing to brag about your size on an online bodybuilding board, but its another thing to say who can kick who's ass and who's been fighting the longest........VERY VERY childish on that one

and so what, you could kick my ass most likely then if you've been training for 23 years of jiu jitsu as you said you are 35 on another thread......

guess what, that and 50 cents will buy you a can of pepsi won't it

 

[blacksabbath1987]

ok ok ok, lets drop this shit, no one is gonna fight on here bro, its one thing to brag about your size on an online bodybuilding board, but its another thing to say who can kick who's ass and who's been fighting the longest........VERY VERY childish on that one

i am not big at all 205lbs. i dont want to kick anybodys ass on here anyway unless its in the ring.i dont want to flame either just not get shot down everytime i post on a particular topic. your years in AS might not be a problem in taking alot more but. i have tried it and even through in d-bol with it just to see what would happen. and i have had good results so far!!!!! so chill bro!!!

 

[informed09]

So when you two get done can we get back on topic??? Start a new thread if you want to continue

 

[drrman]

So when you two get done can we get back on topic??? Start a new thread if you want to continue

sorry about that bro.......but yes, both are great compounds in my oppinion, if i were to choose between the two i personally would go with var

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

and yeah i dont have to hide either i am always looking for a good fight!!!! and i have been fighting since i was 12 years old.jiu-jitsu rules

Another internet fighter..lol

 

[blacksabbath1987]

Another internet fighter..lol

another -------asshole!!!!

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Ahh, now my feelings are hurt. Dont mess with me, or youll be sleeping with the fishes..

 

[Bruce]

listen up homo, don't come on here ranting and talking shit to vets. 40-50mg of var is a good start dose sure, there is nothing wrong with running 80-100mg of var. you won't need to worry about your liver. i ran winny for 6 months no liver problems, do i reccomend this no, but var is given for months at a time to young boys and their livers are fine. you know nothing just cause you are on var doesn't mean shit. i'm running tbol at 60mg ed so if i were to go to var 40mg ed i wouldn't even feel it, understand?

as a matter of fact im running var now!!!!!!!and just because i have not done enough.does not mean i dont know. you dont see me on here asking how to do proper pct do yah!!! no !!!because i workout out with two great big fuckers that know their shit to. they are my trainers. and as far as var!!!! i have 3000 of the 25mg ones and dont think i havent tested the water with all that i have. i am not giving out advice to other AS that i dont know that much about BRO!!! JUST THE ONES I HAVE TRIED!!! so back off!!!!!! as far as i can see the time i have been on this site i have done my research and learned more than enough to accomidate others if needed you have road my ass everytime i post.back off!!!! my training is as intense as it gets i fight mma and i am the best at everything i do.i except no substitutes!!! i make things happen!!!.

 

[Bruce]

lmfao, jujitsu. really what form do you study, ive studied many i'd like to know your knowledge of the art, internet tough guys are great. i have a 10 foot dick and know karate. please bitch get off itmuscles ass. get out of this thread it was constructive till your dumbass started getting tough

Another internet fighter..lol

 

[Juiced]

Personally I dont see the reason why you cant run both if money is not an issue, I would personally not take var past 50mg a day becuase for me I get horrible gastrointestinal pains which is a side of var and var only, although you may not, see how your body likes it bro. I would run the primo at 500mg and the var at 50mg and you have an easy answer as to what to take

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Thanks for the backup Bruce.. I give you k tomorrow, im out for the day!

 

[informed09]

So you are saying lower the doses and take both. Not a bad idea. Do you think I would see better results being that I would be hitting more receptors?

Personally I dont see the reason why you cant run both if money is not an issue, I would personally not take var past 50mg a day becuase for me I get horrible gastrointestinal pains which is a side of var and var only, although you may not, see how your body likes it bro. I would run the primo at 500mg and the var at 50mg and you have an easy answer as to what to take

 

[Bruce]

i am not disagreeing with jackedfreak i think that primo var is a great option, however, for your goals it sounds like a high dose of var is going to do the job better.

So you are saying lower the doses and take both. Not a bad idea. Do you think I would see better results being that I would be hitting more receptors?

 

[informed09]

thanks bruce. must spread k around

i am not disagreeing with jackedfreak i think that primo var is a great option, however, for your goals it sounds like a high dose of var is going to do the job better.