primo only??

[alcatraz1662]

What about with just a single cycle under your belt. Primo a better option?

179.5 lbs
6'
Lean

Try eating, bro. I know guys that are 5'10-5'11 at 185lbs and I wouldn't recommend them to AAS until they hit 190-195lbs naturally.

I got out of the military over a year ago at 6'1, 175lbs.....and now in about a year and a half, I am 6'1, 225lbs....12-13%BF. The only thing I was on, was protein and a multi-vitamin, bro.

EAT!

 

[boxerjake]

yeah fuck the primo. ill stick with test.

Not the attitude taken by past pro's like arnold .. one of his favorite reported cycles was primo and d-bol ...

I find primo @ 800 to 1000 mg a week stacked with var at 50mg ED to be a great combination if your not looking to blow up like a ballon in 3 weeks and then deflate again .... 95% of all my past gains on primo have been kept , contrary to popular belief primo is not a weak steriod you just don't bloat like a pig on it , so , some think it produces less results which is total bullshit.

Personaly i favour keeping my forward progress instead of riding the rollercoast up and down over and over again .. If this is your tenth cycle then what was your starting weight and what are you at now ?

I've only done 5 good solid runs , the first @ 180lbs and today i sit at 230lbs with the same or less BF then at 180 ... i've been as high as 254lbs but felt like an unathletic bag of shit that could'nt catch a 4 year old kid if i tryed ,considering i'm olny 5' 10" .....

I've yet to try tren ... once my research is complete , that will be my next kick at the cat

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

I am dieting down but am about 212 off gear at 5`8 now. Got up to 225 last cycle at 12.8% so its ok. Before gear I was 185 ish so 30-35lb gained over 9 cycles, not too great but i used to run pathetic pct`s which has now been fixed.
Maybe ill run some test and primo for 14 weeks over the summer.

 

[boxerjake]

I am dieting down but am about 212 off gear at 5`8 now. Got up to 225 last cycle at 12.8% so its ok. Before gear I was 185 ish so 30-35lb gained over 9 cycles, not too great but i used to run pathetic pct`s which has now been fixed.
Maybe ill run some test and primo for 14 weeks over the summer.

Like everyone else your learning the importance or proper PCT thats a huge step .....

Once you figure out how to keep your gains post cycle ..... life is good

 

[black sheep]

I am not flaming.. Or looking to get flamed - But I am wondering - How many of you who say "Fuck Primo" have actually used primo? If so, was it legit? If you are sure it was Legit, how much did you take? I ask this because 10 weeks of Primo at a gram a week using Schering would cost a boat load.

I have a lot of primo, and it will be lab tested next week to make sure it is legit and is dosed properly. If so, I will run 10 weeks at a gram a week with Proviron daily. I will post true results up.

If money is not a consideration, and don't want any sides, and easy recovery - Then Primo sounds like a good choice. I have used Test, Deca, Tren, EQ, NPP, Winny, T-Bol, and D-Bol in the past. So I have a good basis for comparison when I run the Primo.

 

[itlnstln]

would primo only at 500mg a week be effective for a tenth cycle?
Was thinking as primo has been good before for gains with no sides. Its either that or running test prop but bp flies up

500mgs Primo/week
1 roll of duct tape

Inject the primo 1-2x/week
Have a friend tape your hands to your head, then have them take your keyboard and smash it to pieces.

GREAT CYCLE

 

[immortalis]

500mgs Primo/week
1 roll of duct tape

Inject the primo 1-2x/week
Have a friend tape your hands to your head, then have them take your keyboard and smash it to pieces.

GREAT CYCLE

hahaha. I swear, every day theres at least one post by you that cracks me the fuck up.

one big phat +1 K comin at ya, lol.

 

[deezknuckles]

I will be very interested in reading about your results sheep (both lab results and gains). I have been off AAS for 5 years (Im 31) and am considering 8 weeks of primo at 500 mg/week with 375 mg/wk of Test. I'm trying to balance the best of both worlds in terms of sides and gains.

 

[narshh]

Try eating, bro. I know guys that are 5'10-5'11 at 185lbs and I wouldn't recommend them to AAS until they hit 190-195lbs naturally.

I got out of the military over a year ago at 6'1, 175lbs.....and now in about a year and a half, I am 6'1, 225lbs....12-13%BF. The only thing I was on, was protein and a multi-vitamin, bro.

EAT!

My thing is that I am not into gaining fat. Of course who is, right? I am very lean. Never tested body fat but I have very little. But if I increase calories to 4500 per day. It does not matter how clean I eat, I add body fat. And let me tell you, I eat VERY clean and have for years. I have tried 4000 pd also but 3000 per day seems to be my limit to stay lean. I have substituted protein supplements, changed the order in which the foods were taken in, insuring not even complex carbs late but I still get back to gains = some fat. I run 5 days and occasionally 6 days a week. Hit the gym 5 days NEVER 6 days a week.

Last year I did cyp and eq and kept nearly 5 pounds from it so I am looking to make another 5-10 pound jump if I can while staying lean. I am just trying to determine the best way to get there for me.

I understand more than some but of course not all what dietary discipline can do but man, I am just not getting there on my own. More dedication than I give to this effort is rare in the outside world. Maybe not here with all of the Guru’s and potential "wannabe" guru's but rare elsewhere.

I waited 10 years before my first cycle and while I have only been this disciplined for the last 4 I think that my only way outside of AS is to get fat. Not fat by many people’s standards but fat by my own. This is not an acceptable solution for me.

I am not saying that without AS I can not go on. I am merely saying I am now looking for a little help to stay motivated and maybe even be a little more motivated if that is possible.

I do respect the opinion on those who say "GET bigger before" but at the same time, I am the only one who can see it clearly from my perspective and I think that choosing the right gear is the next logical step in my progression.

I do value your opinion and thanks again for the input.

 

[narshh]

I will be very interested in reading about your results sheep (both lab results and gains). I have been off AAS for 5 years (Im 31) and am considering 8 weeks of primo at 500 mg/week with 375 mg/wk of Test. I'm trying to balance the best of both worlds in terms of sides and gains.

Are these effective at doses as low as 200 per week each?