Primo/Eq. results--need advice/input

[lazer84]

Hey,
I've done various cycles in the past, all of which included test as a base. The compounds have been test, eq, var, winny, NPP..

I just finished up a 10 wk 500mg primo(schering) & 400 Eq(Syrus), 50mg Proviron. I have to tell you, my gains were pretty incredible--I gained 12 pounds of lean mass. Now, this is the first time for primo, so I'm sure my body was shocked by this new compound.

Here is my deal. I made great gains, but my mind was clusterf___. I kind of felt depressed & really non social. I was in great shape, but didn't feel good at all.
Is this just more evidence, that test MUST be included in every cycle? The reason I tried a non-test cycle is because of acne associated with test for me. FYI--this cycle was clean--no bloat or acne, but the mental anguish sucked.

 

[UA_Iron]

I'd have to agree with the lack of test being the cause of your mental issues. Test plays many roles in your body that other androgens just cannot compete with.

 

[UFC22]

That's interesting, well hell if you keep those lean gains the anguish was well worth it for those 10wks! lol! I wonder if you would have experienced any bloat or acne if you just threw in a very low dose of test. Say you just picked up a vial of enanthate at 300mgs and just shot 1cc a week w/ your other gear. Maybe that would have made the world of difference on the psychological aspect.

 

[UA_Iron]

run a heavy anti-e with the test like femara and see if you still are prone to breaking out.

 

[lazer84]

run a heavy anti-e with the test like femara and see if you still are prone to breaking out.

I always run liquidex--don't know much about femara.

 

[lazer84]

Bump

 

[boops]

agreed that is your bodies way of telling you it need at least some test running in the body....acne is a bitch but you can at least control that with over the counter stuff to a certain extent, the sides you got without test have no remedy except to add test.....

 

[lazer84]

agreed that is your bodies way of telling you it need at least some test running in the body....acne is a bitch but you can at least control that with over the counter stuff to a certain extent, the sides you got without test have no remedy except to add test.....

I did not want to hear that, but your probably right. Anybody else...........

 

[UA_Iron]

the test dose doesnt need to be high - just a maintenance dose of 250-300mg/week should be fine.

run your arimidex at 1mg/day or eod

Question: what else did you run the last times you ran test and broke out?

 

[boops]

the test dose doesnt need to be high - just a maintenance dose of 250-300mg/week should be fine.

run your arimidex at 1mg/day or eod

Question: what else did you run the last times you ran test and broke out?

agreed here could have run a low dose prop, that way you could have controlled things by adjusting the dose as you went as its in and out of the system fairly quick....chalk it up to a learning experience, we have all been there bro.....

 

[lazer84]

the test dose doesnt need to be high - just a maintenance dose of 250-300mg/week should be fine.

run your arimidex at 1mg/day or eod

Question: what else did you run the last times you ran test and broke out?

I always ran two compounds test & either eq, var, npp..No difference on any as far as acne, so it must be the test. My test dose was always 500mg plus--I'm going to try the low dose test.

 

[boops]

I always ran two compounds test & either eq, var, npp..No difference on any as far as acne, so it must be the test. My test dose was always 500mg plus--I'm going to try the low dose test.

low dose prop bro so if you run into problems with it you can stop it alot faster then a longer acting test....try 100mg EOD then go from there and adjust accordingly