Primo/anavar beginning cycle

[Bosun]

I want to try my first steroid cycle. My stats are:

Age: 24
Height: 178cm
Weight: 70kg

I do mma three days a week and power lifting three days a week. I have a balanced, protein rich diet. My main lifts are 120kg dead and 105kg squat, 5x5.

I want to the a 12 wk cycle with 100mg primo a week and 10 mg anavar a day. I know this is not much, but I am also a small person and I want to limit side effects. I also wanna gain 3-5kg lean muscle and shred my body fat from 12 to 8%.

I know my test is low and will do one shot of nebido at the start of the cycle and one at the end. Should I do climal too at the end?

The other supplemnets I will be taking is:

ON whey
Animal pak
Animal omega
Animal pm
Animal flex
Vpx shotgun

Any other tips for my 12 wk cycle? Will I be fine?

 

[ChangNam]

bro 100mg primo and 10mg var will give u nothing....

 

[ChangNam]

250mg test every 10 day. Will be bether for u. This way u will burn som fat. And u will reagain faster.

 

[thelocal]

i say just do a test 300-500mgs a week cycle,primo is very $$ and yea 100mgs will just piss u off..really,you should look into best,epi,hdrol,or diss. alll found here at https://www.mrsupps.com

you could do a epi cycle wiht some need2slin,hcg gen,gear,accient strenght,forma staznoal and you wont be disappointed at all,and those are all legal and very powerful

 

[Bosun]

What if I double the doses?

I am not looking for massive gains, i want to stay around 70kg, but sant my sqaut up to 120 and deadlift to 160.

I am of the impression that anything other than primo/anavar is too much for me as a beginner, as i do not know how my body will react.

I appreciate your inputs.

 

[thelocal]

even 200mgs of primo is a waste man,u need around 400mgs to see effects it takes about 10 weeks for the ester to build up in your blood stream,and primo effects are very mild.but with 200mgs your just throwing money away,just use test for your first cycle,u can throw the var in the last 6 weeks,that will be a better cycle then the one you plan on doing

 

[WinnyPumps]

I want to try my first steroid cycle. My stats are:

Age: 24
Height: 178cm
Weight: 70kg

I do mma three days a week and power lifting three days a week. I have a balanced, protein rich diet. My main lifts are 120kg dead and 105kg squat, 5x5.

I want to the a 12 wk cycle with 100mg primo a week and 10 mg anavar a day. I know this is not much, but I am also a small person and I want to limit side effects. I also wanna gain 3-5kg lean muscle and shred my body fat from 12 to 8%.

I know my test is low and will do one shot of nebido at the start of the cycle and one at the end. Should I do climal too at the end?

The other supplemnets I will be taking is:

ON whey
Animal pak
Animal omega
Animal pm
Animal flex
Vpx shotgun

Any other tips for my 12 wk cycle? Will I be fine?

That cycle sucks donkey poop! Do alot of research on here and put together a nice beginner cycle for yourself.

Test/Primo or Test/Anavar would be a good first cycle in my opinion.

 

[ChangNam]

guys i am a old fighter. Not so old i am 30 now. But been doing all types of martial arts from i was wery young. More then 250mg test a week or every 10 day. Will give him to much pump. And that way him will fuck up his mma training. This guy is new to the game. And just a smal amount of test. Will not destroi his stamina. And him will regain faster and burn some fat. And him will also put on some waight. Belive me and just do test alone. Start out slow and bump it up if u not like what u feel. No need to go crazy and satck alot difrent compounds together... Hope u listen to what i say. And post ur resolts later. When i do test e for x 250mg every 10 day or a week. Do i feel great when i am training. But if u over do or go crazy on the dosage. Do u understand what i am trying to say. Pz out bro and keap it real in the gym. Respect to all fighters. Takes alot heart to step in to the ring and bang. By the way UFC 117 is to day. Think i will have it downloaded in 7 houers or so. LOL !!

 

[d_rson]

You will NOT see any results from what you are asking. Primo is not a big strength drug, it's a lean tissue builder. So it's not really what you are after. Var is more suited, but with low test already, you need to increase your test (adrogens) to support the strength.

250mg test e per week, 50mg var per day, for 8 weeks. If you keep clean diet slightly over maintenance calories, you will see minimal size increase, some fat burning, and decent strength increases with limited sides. Research that cycle.

 

[Bosun]

Thank you for a lot of helpful tips. I am trying to do research, this is a central part of it!

Do remember that I am only 70kg and do not wish to gain weight. Also I wanna minimise side effects by getting a very clean product in a moderate amount.

I appreciate the comment about test. Could someone refer me to a specific brand/product and recommended dosage for me at 70 kg?

Also, anywhere I can orde it online? I live in France (EU).

 

[bobby6638]

hey bro,, i am new to the board & the game but have done a few years of research on this stuff,, LISTEN TO THE GUYS,, anything under 400mg of primo is a waste,,, 400 mg alone will still be a waiste by it self.. primo needs to be upwards of 600-800 mgs or even more to get the full effect of the compound. the saying with primo is MORE IS BETTER & that is not the case with most AAS.. you also need to do at least 16 weeks of it to get the best results because it takes long to kick in (as stated above)... Var is a great compliment to primo but again 60-80 mg spread thruought day is about the most effective, (anymore or less is waste).. this will shut you down,, not as harsh as Test cycle but it well.. It's possible to have libido issues on this,, usually it affects guys that have done alot of cycles but it could possibly be an issue thats why test even at small dose would be used..... remember with primo it's alot of oil u r puttung in ur body,, no more then 3 mgs is recommended in the glute,, putting more then that espesially anywhere else is asking for an infection absest etc.. so even if u do 600 mgs u figure ur pinning 3x's a week 2 mgs Efew days,, how ever you work it out.. i am going to use it in a cycle myself soon, test messes me up with sides acne, blood pressure heart rate & thats at 500 mgs week so i am looking for less side stuff also to incorporate with a lower dose of test to see it works out...

Read up on EQ with some priviron & maybe winny the last 5 weeks,, some sides but less then test & also slow gains (like primo) but good quality muscle increase red blood count good for endurence. see what other guys reply to this & RESEARCH the info is there but remember it is more like a giude line because this stuff affects up all a little differently hope this helped u out a little DON"T JUST JUMP ON SOMETHING READ be well

 

[jimmyhav]

Thank you for a lot of helpful tips. I am trying to do research, this is a central part of it!

Do remember that I am only 70kg and do not wish to gain weight. Also I wanna minimise side effects by getting a very clean product in a moderate amount.

I appreciate the comment about test. Could someone refer me to a specific brand/product and recommended dosage for me at 70 kg?

Also, anywhere I can orde it online? I live in France (EU).

Check this out bro: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/steroid-forum-rules-649306.html

 

[C.K.]

Thats a ballerinas dose...

 

[soupeater]

check out drugprofiles.com for some great info on individual compounds and check out the sponsors. some good shit there

 

[Bosun]

Not to be rude, but at my peak I have been 69 kgs with <5% bodyfat. In that condition I can still squeeze out 5x5 90 kgs bench press and run 100m in 11s. I mainly want to try steroids to get my test up (I am really struggling with low test at the moment), but in a very safe way.

Having my training in quantitative statistics it seems insane to take more than 30mg anavar per day or 200mg of test-e. Read some of the studies at google scholar - an anavar dose of 60 mg a day brings with it a statistical significant risk of permanent liver damage. I do not wish for this, I only wish to push my test back up a little bit.

I have decided on a 45 day 20mg anavar per day cycle for starters. This is used in hospitals to stimulate gains in patients with physical trauma who are struggling with weight loss and looks to be both safe and effective.

I will not see massive gains, but I am still likely to be able to beat up a guy twice my size, and, if not, I am guaranteed to outrun him.

Primo has been decided to dangerous for me after reading some studies. If I were to consider anything else it would have to be nebido.

Finally, oxandrin is fucked up expensive, but are those Asian underground brands to be trusted? Lapharma etc. If not I will go for oxandrin. I can afford to pay over the odds when taking a risk like this one just to make sure my product is clean!

Still I would like to express my gratitude to most of you people, just be careful about branding mma-people ballerinas just because we can't bench press 200kgs. I think most of us are more up for pain than many people on heavy dosages of juice.

 

[bobby6638]

Bro Var is very mild on the liver compared to all other AAS. u need to take LIV 52 or another liver product. SYNTHERGINE is another great liver product.. There is alot of good liver products,,,, if u researched medicine u would fined that TYLENOL is harsher on ur liver than Var.

I am not arguing with u but u can't compare yourself using 20mgs of Var when u r healthy already & in good shape with someone that is in the hospital with physical trauma & their body is fighting to heal using 20 mgs of Var,, Its apples & oranges for why u r using it...

Why is Primo to dangerous for u???? Primo IS THE MILDEST AAS there is.. Just currious as to why its dangerous for u???? What have u read that maybe I have missed cause i read alot about primo.. Primo is one of the most used for Aides patients with amazing results

 

[jimmyhav]

Not to be rude, but at my peak I have been 69 kgs with <5% bodyfat. In that condition I can still squeeze out 5x5 90 kgs bench press and run 100m in 11s. I mainly want to try steroids to get my test up (I am really struggling with low test at the moment), but in a very safe way.

Having my training in quantitative statistics it seems insane to take more than 30mg anavar per day or 200mg of test-e. Read some of the studies at google scholar - an anavar dose of 60 mg a day brings with it a statistical significant risk of permanent liver damage. I do not wish for this, I only wish to push my test back up a little bit.

I have decided on a 45 day 20mg anavar per day cycle for starters. This is used in hospitals to stimulate gains in patients with physical trauma who are struggling with weight loss and looks to be both safe and effective.

I will not see massive gains, but I am still likely to be able to beat up a guy twice my size, and, if not, I am guaranteed to outrun him.

Primo has been decided to dangerous for me after reading some studies. If I were to consider anything else it would have to be nebido.

Finally, oxandrin is fucked up expensive, but are those Asian underground brands to be trusted? Lapharma etc. If not I will go for oxandrin. I can afford to pay over the odds when taking a risk like this one just to make sure my product is clean!

Still I would like to express my gratitude to most of you people, just be careful about branding mma-people ballerinas just because we can't bench press 200kgs. I think most of us are more up for pain than many people on heavy dosages of juice.

Relax cowboy! You came here looking for advice and you're getting it. Just because it's not what you want to hear, don't get all defensive. There are a lot of good bro's in here that are in mma, so there's no "branding" going on. I believe he said that the dose was a ballerina's dose, not that you or any mma bro's are ballerina's.

My personal opinion? Go see a doctor. Much better than trying to get answers from the internet, especially when you don't like honest answers. You sound as though you have issues with low testosterone. That along with concerns over liver health and doses, GO SEE A PROFESSIONAL, instead of getting into a "who's-got-the-biggest-dick" contest.

 

[skyling35]

Yeah your doasges are way low man, and I have yet to see one thing that would indicate primo as being dangerous. You really should re-research alot of things if you think those dosages are gonna give you the results you want.

Oh yeah I also compete in mma and grappling. Im planning on using test and primo at a much higher dose, and my goals are fairly similar. Im looking to add muscle and strength while not putting on huge amounts of weight.

 

[d_rson]

Not to be rude, but at my peak I have been 69 kgs with <5% bodyfat. In that condition I can still squeeze out 5x5 90 kgs bench press and run 100m in 11s. I mainly want to try steroids to get my test up (I am really struggling with low test at the moment), but in a very safe way.

Having my training in quantitative statistics it seems insane to take more than 30mg anavar per day or 200mg of test-e. Read some of the studies at google scholar - an anavar dose of 60 mg a day brings with it a statistical significant risk of permanent liver damage. I do not wish for this, I only wish to push my test back up a little bit.

I have decided on a 45 day 20mg anavar per day cycle for starters. This is used in hospitals to stimulate gains in patients with physical trauma who are struggling with weight loss and looks to be both safe and effective.

I will not see massive gains, but I am still likely to be able to beat up a guy twice my size, and, if not, I am guaranteed to outrun him.

Primo has been decided to dangerous for me after reading some studies. If I were to consider anything else it would have to be nebido.

Finally, oxandrin is fucked up expensive, but are those Asian underground brands to be trusted? Lapharma etc. If not I will go for oxandrin. I can afford to pay over the odds when taking a risk like this one just to make sure my product is clean!

Still I would like to express my gratitude to most of you people, just be careful about branding mma-people ballerinas just because we can't bench press 200kgs. I think most of us are more up for pain than many people on heavy dosages of juice.

You do understand that taking steroids LOWERS your natural test, correct? You say you want to try steroids to RAISE your test? I think you need to do some research.

Also, if you use pharm grade var, at 20mg, you might see something, but you will NOT be impressed. You need atleast 30mg pharm grade for 8 weeks to see anything of value.

Also, no lab talk. Read the rules.

If you are struggling with low test then you NEED to go see the doc and try to get on TRT or get it fixed. Taking AAS is only going to SUPRESS your natural test.