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Preventing catabolism
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Mr.X
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Yes you can prevent catabolism, by lowering stress levels, increasing rest times; also, supplementing with products like glutamine, taurine, creatine and BCAAs.
Diet is also key; having a positive nitrogen balance, high-protein intake will help prevent possible muscle loss. In addition, remember to have a refeed/carb-up once a week to refill liver glycogen.
Diet is also key; having a positive nitrogen balance, high-protein intake will help prevent possible muscle loss. In addition, remember to have a refeed/carb-up once a week to refill liver glycogen.
Little Boy
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Mr.X said:
What's a good day to have a carb-up? On leg day? On the day you need to have your best workout?
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Mr.X
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Little Boy said:
It's best to refeed on a non-training day / rest day. You should not workout on that day, but rather rest and have your body fully recover. Think of it as a day "off" from everything.
Thanx again for the info Mr.X, and here is some more---
Glutamine is highly in demand throughout the body. It is used in the gut and immune system extensively to maintain optimal performance. 60% of free-form amino acids floating in skeletal muscles is L-glutamine. L-glutamine plays a very important role in protein metabolism, and it appears to be a very important nutrient for body builders. When supplemented, it may help body builders reduce the amount of muscle deterioration that occurs because other tissues that need glutamine will not rob the glutamine stored in the muscle cells.
Research shows that after intensely working out, glutamine levels in the body are reduced by as much as 50%. Since the body relies on glutamine as cellular fuel for the immune system, scientific studies have shown that glutamine supplementation can minimize the breakdown of muscle tissue and improve protein metabolism. Its effects on replenishing the body after stress or trauma have been shown in Europe where it is commonly given to patients in hospitals. Glutamine's cell-volumizing effects have also been shown in several studies. No conclusive studies have been done to evaluate the effects of L-glutamine supplementation on weight-training adults; however, a recent study showed up to a 400% increase in growth-hormone levels when as little as 2 grams of free-form L-glutamine supplement was consumed!
Thanx
PCfuzz
Glutamine is highly in demand throughout the body. It is used in the gut and immune system extensively to maintain optimal performance. 60% of free-form amino acids floating in skeletal muscles is L-glutamine. L-glutamine plays a very important role in protein metabolism, and it appears to be a very important nutrient for body builders. When supplemented, it may help body builders reduce the amount of muscle deterioration that occurs because other tissues that need glutamine will not rob the glutamine stored in the muscle cells.
Research shows that after intensely working out, glutamine levels in the body are reduced by as much as 50%. Since the body relies on glutamine as cellular fuel for the immune system, scientific studies have shown that glutamine supplementation can minimize the breakdown of muscle tissue and improve protein metabolism. Its effects on replenishing the body after stress or trauma have been shown in Europe where it is commonly given to patients in hospitals. Glutamine's cell-volumizing effects have also been shown in several studies. No conclusive studies have been done to evaluate the effects of L-glutamine supplementation on weight-training adults; however, a recent study showed up to a 400% increase in growth-hormone levels when as little as 2 grams of free-form L-glutamine supplement was consumed!
Thanx
PCfuzz
And about BCAAs---
Among the most beneficial and effective supplements in any sports nutrition program are branched chain amino acids. These are the essential aminos leucine, isoleucine, and valine.
Although these supplements have been around for a long time and the scientific understanding in the exercise performance benefits of BCAA supplementation is rich many people don't know exactly how they exert their effects or how and when to use them properly.
You probably know that amino acids are the building blocks of protein. When you eat a protein food, it gets digested in the stomach and intestine into individual amino acids and short chains of amino acids that are small enough to be absorbed into the bloodstream. These amino acids have far reaching effects in the body from building and repairing tissues, to producing chemicals that enable our brains to function optimally.
Essential amino acids cannot be made by the body. You must get them from complete protein foods or combinations of incomplete vegetable foods. There are 9 essential amino acids: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, tryptophan, and valine. Your body can make non-essential amino acids by itself from vitamins and other amino acids.
The term "non-essential" can be misleading since all amino acids are essential for proper metabolism and certain non-essential amino acids, such as glutamine, become very essential. The 13 non-essential amino acids are alanine, arginine, aspartic acid, cysteine, cystine, glutamic acid, glutamine, glycine, hydroxyproline, proline, serine, & tyrosine.
The essential branched chain amino acids (BCAA's) are of special importance for athletes because they are metabolized in the muscle, rather than in the liver. Here's how this works: After digestion once protein is broken down into individual amino acids these aminos can either be used to build new proteins or be burned as fuel to produce energy.
Thanx
PCfuzz
Among the most beneficial and effective supplements in any sports nutrition program are branched chain amino acids. These are the essential aminos leucine, isoleucine, and valine.
Although these supplements have been around for a long time and the scientific understanding in the exercise performance benefits of BCAA supplementation is rich many people don't know exactly how they exert their effects or how and when to use them properly.
You probably know that amino acids are the building blocks of protein. When you eat a protein food, it gets digested in the stomach and intestine into individual amino acids and short chains of amino acids that are small enough to be absorbed into the bloodstream. These amino acids have far reaching effects in the body from building and repairing tissues, to producing chemicals that enable our brains to function optimally.
Essential amino acids cannot be made by the body. You must get them from complete protein foods or combinations of incomplete vegetable foods. There are 9 essential amino acids: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, tryptophan, and valine. Your body can make non-essential amino acids by itself from vitamins and other amino acids.
The term "non-essential" can be misleading since all amino acids are essential for proper metabolism and certain non-essential amino acids, such as glutamine, become very essential. The 13 non-essential amino acids are alanine, arginine, aspartic acid, cysteine, cystine, glutamic acid, glutamine, glycine, hydroxyproline, proline, serine, & tyrosine.
The essential branched chain amino acids (BCAA's) are of special importance for athletes because they are metabolized in the muscle, rather than in the liver. Here's how this works: After digestion once protein is broken down into individual amino acids these aminos can either be used to build new proteins or be burned as fuel to produce energy.
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PCfuzz
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Mr.X
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good info posted PCfuzz 
I use albuterol to help prevent catabolism . Works great.
. Works great.
jacshelb
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I agree with Mr. X on the feeding/carb-up day. Not that anyone is disputing it. But, i've been doing this while dieting for a show and (despite my fat ass look in my avatar) it is working nicely. The other added benefit is that it ramps up your metabolism and will even increase hormone output a little. But, I only do this while maintaining or cutting.
For bulking I do periods of high calorie eating (short bursts, 12 days or so), but am careful to not overdo it with the carbs. Lots of healthy fats and proteins with adequate carbs (in relation to size and training output) are in order for anti-catabolic/anabolic effects while bulking up naturally.
Just my 2 cents.
Jacob
For bulking I do periods of high calorie eating (short bursts, 12 days or so), but am careful to not overdo it with the carbs. Lots of healthy fats and proteins with adequate carbs (in relation to size and training output) are in order for anti-catabolic/anabolic effects while bulking up naturally.
Just my 2 cents.
Jacob
JohnnyWest
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SOURPUSS said:
That much LBM you lost? If so, that's alot.
Every 8 weeks I take a week off and come back feeling fuller and stronger.
yea it does suck the big one, i remember when i was in my mid 30's and all my buddys started to baloon up because of poor eating habits and there i was eating burger king by the truck load and body % was about 15 and weight was 250. i would just smile and offer them a bite
JohnnyWest said:
Hey fuzz or Mr X do you mind 2 more questions?
Thank's for the info on BCAA's I have never had it expained that well. I have a basic understanding of there importance when considering maximizing your bodies ablility to utilize protien effecently. For years I have applied the following simple logic to using protien powders with BCAA's and controling carb intake.
I use 2 different types of protien powder one low card and one I guess you would consider regular. I choose which one to use or a combination of both, based on my diet for the day and on feeding/carb up days, and for course considering the extent of my fitness activities along with my regular activities for the day. Both of these supplients claim to have all necessary BCAA's.
Althought this is far from a scientific approach would you consider it to be a resonanable enough whereas, I am using the product correctly by choosing which to use based on curcumstances as noted. Or should I reconsider and better educate myself on BCCA's/protien/carb intake.
Also, in your opinion what are the best souces of free-form L-glutamine, suplimental protien powders and BCAA's.
Thanks for your consideraton.
Thank's for the info on BCAA's I have never had it expained that well. I have a basic understanding of there importance when considering maximizing your bodies ablility to utilize protien effecently. For years I have applied the following simple logic to using protien powders with BCAA's and controling carb intake.
I use 2 different types of protien powder one low card and one I guess you would consider regular. I choose which one to use or a combination of both, based on my diet for the day and on feeding/carb up days, and for course considering the extent of my fitness activities along with my regular activities for the day. Both of these supplients claim to have all necessary BCAA's.
Althought this is far from a scientific approach would you consider it to be a resonanable enough whereas, I am using the product correctly by choosing which to use based on curcumstances as noted. Or should I reconsider and better educate myself on BCCA's/protien/carb intake.
Also, in your opinion what are the best souces of free-form L-glutamine, suplimental protien powders and BCAA's.
Thanks for your consideraton.
old pro said:
You should better educate yourself on BCCA's/protien/carb intake.
I am still doing that myself.
All i do is search and read. And when i find something good to share...i share.
Nobody here knows it all so we have to learn and share. Spend just 1 hour searching and reading about 1 subject, then share it with the group and it will come back 3 fold.
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