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BEAST420

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Jw the effects of taking prescription meds that are your own prescription and how it will effect lifts in the gym, how it effects aas, pct, etc....
Specifically wondering about Klonapin .... For years , prolly since 17 I have been on low dose which was .5 over the years I went up to 1mg per day... I have acute anxiety and I literally have terrible insomnia without them... I dont take during the day ever unless I'm severely having an attack, usally save em for like 1 hour prior to bed... I don't think this has an effect of my lifting , but jw bc I don't really kno..
 
I thought klonipin and clorazepam were different?


not that I care...
 
But very similar. I dated a chick taking that shit. Fuck she was crazy!

(Fuck I hate auto correct on my phone while I am driving!)
 
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Hello BEAST420,

I am very glad you came here to ask this question before mixing benzodiazepines with exercise!

Clonazepam has a known detrimental affect on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis; namely, transverse GABA modulation via CYP2C19 metabolism of exercise-induced lactic acid triggers a terminal shutdown of all endogeneous testosterone production. This process is both sudden and irreversible. Further, concomitant use of clonazepam and anabolic steroids has been shown to lead to sudden cardiac arrest in 67% of healthy male subjects.

As always, be healthy and safe!

Yours in sport,



:cow:
 
Where does the 420 fit in the mix?
 
Honestly not trying to stick to hydros at all... I kno tons of my friends who are totally hooked on painkillers (Often Roxie's ) but I kno for a fact that pain killers suppress natty test....
1mg of clonzapan will screw with my lifting? And will screw with my testosterone?
 
BEAST420 said:
Honestly not trying to stick to hydros at all... I kno tons of my friends who are totally hooked on painkillers (Often Roxie's ) but I kno for a fact that pain killers suppress natty test....
1mg of clonzapan will screw with my lifting? And will screw with my testosterone?
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Dude I'm 245lbs. They don't suppress your test levels lol
 
What doesent the benzo or the opiate???
I have read everywhere that opiates shut down natral test, or at least suppress it... So if ur on cycle then opiates aren't the worst thing bc you have synthetic test which won't be shut down....
Regardless bro, opiates are addicting as fuck. I kno benzos are as well, but I'm curious as to what affects they have on lifiting and gains... Obvi I don't mean taking before you lift. I'm talking about post workout or before bed...
I honestly sleep so well on them I feel as how could that not be beneficial for lifiting....
 
BEAST420 said:
What doesent the benzo or the opiate???
I have read everywhere that opiates shut down natral test, or at least suppress it... So if ur on cycle then opiates aren't the worst thing bc you have synthetic test which won't be shut down....
Regardless bro, opiates are addicting as fuck. I kno benzos are as well, but I'm curious as to what affects they have on lifiting and gains... Obvi I don't mean taking before you lift. I'm talking about post workout or before bed...
I honestly sleep so well on them I feel as how could that not be beneficial for lifiting....
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I don't know where to start :confused:
 
lol :D

i believe there were some studies showing opiates affected hormone levels, but the amount you had to take and time period you would have to take them for would mean that you were sitting around in a junkie stupor. so unless you are a total addict and not being physically active, dont worry about it.

just look at pro wrestlers, they are addicted to all sorts of shit, no problem.
 
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Samoth ur just annyoing, and don't have anything to back up anything you say....
So are you telling me it's a better idea to do opiates then benzodiazepines? I kno that pro wrestlers are all on the juice and all fucked up on pain killers but I'm not trying to live that life... Maybe once in a wile, but are they actually not as bad as benzodiazepines ?? I thought it was the opposite
 
Alright werd, so no awnsers .. I was just trying to see what the effects of taking my prescription (clonzapan 1mg) are on weight training and lifiting if taken after my workout to help me with sleep and anxiety...
 
samoth said:
Hello BEAST420,

I am very glad you came here to ask this question before mixing benzodiazepines with exercise!

Clonazepam has a known detrimental affect on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis; namely, transverse GABA modulation via CYP2C19 metabolism of exercise-induced lactic acid triggers a terminal shutdown of all endogeneous testosterone production. This process is both sudden and irreversible. Further, concomitant use of clonazepam and anabolic steroids has been shown to lead to sudden cardiac arrest in 67% of healthy male subjects.

As always, be healthy and safe!

Yours in sport,



:cow:
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I miss samote.
 
BEAST420 said:
Alright werd, so no awnsers .. I was just trying to see what the effects of taking my prescription (clonzapan 1mg) are on weight training and lifiting if taken after my workout to help me with sleep and anxiety...
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any kind of "induced" sleep isn't as good as natty sleep

becuming dependent on sleep narcs isn't the way to go

benzo addiction/withdrawal is the worse kind of hell
 
klonopin isnt the right type of benzo to be taking for anxiety. and benzos are a horrible choice for long term for anxiety relief.

either way it wont have any affect on your training, unless you are constantly fucked up.
 
Alright will deff try that out bro, thanks brotha... Bc I am deff trying to get off these kpin that my doc prescribed, had I known how addicting they were i would have never started taken em everyday to sleep... I am an idiot , however have tapered down to .5 mg so Idt should be to hard to get off it
 
yeah dude, start doing one day on one day off if you can.

there are a lot of natural remedies that ive had decent results with. valerian root, chrysanthemum tea, melatonin to name a few.

benzos can be great for short term relief, but they arent good for you in general, so its best to limit them.
 
Be careful when getting off benzo's and speak to your MD about the weening off. Never do it alone.
When I work with those weening off benzo's and or AD's, I give L Theanine, 5htp and high doses of minerals with extra zinc. It makes the withdrawal really smooth
Good luck with it all
 
Hye?
Some.
 
Pot grove fires are cool as fuck.
 
Tren hex snorted.
 
Done with all the pharmaceuticals !! Feels great ! Sticking to herbal shit for anxiety aka marijuana...
Just made some butane oil for the first time with an old friend
Lmfao did not even kno u can do it , about to get high as shit and pass out :)
 
BEAST420 said:
Done with all the pharmaceuticals !! Feels great ! Sticking to herbal shit for anxiety aka marijuana...
Just made some butane oil for the first time with an old friend
Lmfao did not even kno u can do it , about to get high as shit and pass out :)
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pretty sure honey oil is not for anxiety bro let me know how that works out for ya
 
Holy shit..... Never smokin weed again, only dabbing! Boy oh boy, not only is dabbing 1000% more effective then flowers... It's also not as bad on ur health as smoking flowers....
I took 3 dabs out of this oil setup and was knocked out cold with zero help from any type of pharmaceutical which was my goal.... Iteraltlly 3 bong hits and I was on Marzlol
 
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