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Cahardcore
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ill chime in....
first 250 ml of test a week aint gonna do too much more for you than to shut of your balls from making their own test. 250 is basically an hrt dose. IMO, 500 wk is a very safe and mild dose, but is enough to see some good gains. I have run well over a gram a week, with an oral and i still don't think that is too extreme. if you havent run test before, dont use the dbol. save it for after you know how the test treats you.
on cycle I like aromasin. i usually start with 12.5 eod, and bump up if i see the signs that i need to...nip itches or tenderness, too much bloating and too much acne.
PCT...cant beat the clomid/nolva....im new here and have to say that i am suprised how many people are promoting use of OTC products for PCT....they can be used to ADD to a good strong SERM PCT of clomid/nolva but NOT to replace it
first 250 ml of test a week aint gonna do too much more for you than to shut of your balls from making their own test. 250 is basically an hrt dose. IMO, 500 wk is a very safe and mild dose, but is enough to see some good gains. I have run well over a gram a week, with an oral and i still don't think that is too extreme. if you havent run test before, dont use the dbol. save it for after you know how the test treats you.
on cycle I like aromasin. i usually start with 12.5 eod, and bump up if i see the signs that i need to...nip itches or tenderness, too much bloating and too much acne.
PCT...cant beat the clomid/nolva....im new here and have to say that i am suprised how many people are promoting use of OTC products for PCT....they can be used to ADD to a good strong SERM PCT of clomid/nolva but NOT to replace it
noodles1010
Well-known member
+1.... I agree with sd
Need stats before this goes further.
Regardless, Dbol will be difficult to keep the gains first time out IMO.
A test only cycle @ 500mg wk is good for 1 timer. See how it goes, how your body reacts, and lean into things. We need the stats tho bud. Age, height, weight, years training, goals, ect ect
noodles1010
Well-known member
Lmao that was deep sd
whatever my high school biology teacher told us about the Scientific Method or whatever it was i was trying to say lol
your running way too much dbol... that's a lot of bloat and aromatization waiting to happen... not good prep for a show... you need to run aromasin if you are intent on running dbol at 12.5 mg eod... lower your dbol to 30 mg day... your fine to run an oral with test on your first cycle, but your going overboard on dosing... you need to run n2guard with any oral... you also need hcg and/or hcgenerate...
pct
Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH test INFUSION AND FORGED POST cycle AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
optional
clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com
pct
Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH test INFUSION AND FORGED POST cycle AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
optional
clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com
So.. Amp up the test, lower the dbol. during cycle use aromasin at 12.5 eod and end it with clomid/nolva? My first cycle I did test e 250 ml/wk with dbol at 30mg/day for the first five wks. didnt gain a whole lot. Im now 32 years old, 185 lb, looking to add solid mass and get ripped. Trained hard for several yrs n then had a setback which put me down for about 3 yrs. Been back in the gym for a year now training like a champ and eating high protein, moderate complex carbs minimal simple carbs n hardly any fats. Im at my leanest point ever and needing to build some mass. PCT before was from AG guys.?
