Pre-training..........

[JKurz1]

I also just read that it's dumb to eat pre-training as the body won't use it for fuel anyways. It's better to take that meal and eat it post training on top of all your other meals as this is when the body needs it most. Thought?
But this would mean I wouldnt eat from 12:30 until 6:30. Rough? What do you guys do?

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

I dont understand the 1230 to 630 part....You train for 6 hours???

It depends on when you eat your pre-workout meal. It is true that by saying your body wont use it for energy. Only because if you eat 30mins before your work out your body just started to digest the food. I would say you need to eat it about 2 hours before your work out. This allows the body enough time to digest the food. I would give 1 hour for a shake. Then you will use it for energy.

Yes post work out is most important. I drink a shake with in 30 mins after my work out along with my BCAA and glutamine powder. 30mins-1hour(normally 30mins because i cant wait to eat) later i eat my meal

 

[Themachine01]

I disagree, 6 hours without eating a solid meal is too long to go, your body will begin tapping into muscle for the nutrients that it needs, this is why you shouldn try and go any longer than 4 hours without a meal. So now your not only going 6 hours without a meal, but your training on top of it. I would like to see where you got that info from, not only does your body need those nutrients for energy but those nutrients need to be in your body for recovery. From the end of your first set, your muscles are being broken down and looking or the nutrients to help it recover, your muscles arent going to just put recovery on hold until you are done training, the recovery process starts at the end of your first set.

 

[gimp]

if you eat a meal of carbs and protein 3 hours before...you'll be using SOME of it for energy..anything less than 3 hours before is a waste.

 

[swordfish151]

I believe that study only apply's to those that eat 30 or less min before they work out...have you ever eating a nice meal right before you go work out..its really uncomftorable..i tend to eat 1.5 - (maybe) 2 hours before i work out..nice solid meal..by the time i hit the wieghts im good..and by the time im done...im getting that hungry feeling again.

 

[JKurz1]

what is your food of choice????

 

[Themachine01]

For a long time, experts believed that weight training on a virtually empty stomach, followed directly afterward by a protein-and-simple-carbohydrate meal, was the most effective way to add muscle mass. However, according to a recent study done at the University of Texas that appeared in the American Journal of Physiology: Endocrinology and Metabolism, a small meal eaten shortly before your workout might more effectively provide your body with the nutrients it needs for recovery.

"It takes quite a while for protein to be broken down into amino acids, move into the amino-acid pool, and subsequently move into the muscles for that repair process," explains Mark Casselman, M.S., C.S.C.S. "The process takes longer than a few minutes or even an hour. The new thinking is that when you take in a small bolus of protein and before exercise, essentially you're giving that protein time to break down while you're working your muscles. So when your muscles are hungry for that protein after your workout, that protein will be more readily available.

"The study that looked at this gave a really small amount of protein to subjects before their training. In other words, don't work out after you've just slurped back a huge shake or eaten a large meal, because your body will have to expend too much energy digesting it. The way to go is to eat a small snack; all you need is a half a cup of cottage cheese or less than 200 calories of a protein drink. Keep the calorie count low and gauge how well your body responds to it. You can take in this light meal anywhere up to a half hour before your workout. It's not like you need to scarf it down and climb right on the bike.

"Another benefit of having a small meal is that you'll have more amino acids available in your bloodstream while you're working out. If you train for longer than 45 minutes at high intensity, your body may start to pull protein from muscle tissue to use as fuel. But if you've got those amino acids floating around in your blood, your body may be less likely to dip into your muscle-protein stores."

 

[JKurz1]

can of tuna and 2 pcs of ww bread????????

 

[Themachine01]

that would be fine about an hour before training.

 

[swordfish151]

can of tuna and 2 pcs of ww bread????????

ha ha..probably not...if i read machines post correctly....you want a small meal..like 1/2 cup cottage cheese..i think the carbs in the bread and depending if you put anything in your tuna might be overkill 30 min pre-workout.

 

[Makavelli]

This what I always eat pre workout: oatmeal and whey protein.

Post workout: Dextrose, oatmeal, and whey protein.

The whey quickly enters the bloodstream before your workout and provides the amino acids the body needs while training. The oatmeal enters slower to provide a consistent source of energy that doesn't cause you to crash. Then post workout the goal is slam the body with nutrients quickly. Dextrose and whey are ideal. When dieting I'll split the amount of carbs b/w dextrose and oatmeal since I'll wait a couple hours before eating again.

 

[JKurz1]

ha ha..probably not...if i read machines post correctly....you want a small meal..like 1/2 cup cottage cheese..i think the carbs in the bread and depending if you put anything in your tuna might be overkill 30 min pre-workout.

now, this is about 1.5 -2 hrs pre....nothing that close to training......bulk of cals come post......

 

[swordfish151]

now, this is about 1.5 -2 hrs pre....nothing that close to training......bulk of cals come post......

if your saying that your tuna sandwich is 1.5 - 2 hrs pre..then yeah..totally ok.

 

[Makavelli]

if your saying that your tuna sandwich is 1.5 - 2 hrs pre..then yeah..totally ok.

I don't agree with eating solid protein, such as meat, pre workout. Whey protein works much better. Solid protein takes several hours to digest. Whey takes minutes.

 

[swordfish151]

I don't agree with eating solid protein, such as meat, pre workout. Whey protein works much better. Solid protein takes several hours to digest. Whey takes minutes.

i understand that, but he is going to consume carbs/whey protein 1.5-2 hrs pre???? I know when i consume whey PW or the times that i did take it pre (just cause i had no other choice) i was starving...why 1.5 hrs pre workout would just make my workout suck due to the hunger.

 

[gjohnson5]

The machine is exactly right. You body can lose 1-2 liters of fluid from training. That doesn't mean just water , that potassium , zinc , electolyes and lets not forget glucose. Glucose (which can be metabolized from protein , carbs or fats) is metabolized into glycogen and and be used as ATP. This is the whole reason to take creatine before workout as well because it is metabolized into ATP... It makes absolutly no sense to me whatsoever to workout on empty stomach and expect to have a a good performance in the weight room with no energy stores in your muscles before training

 

[Makavelli]

i understand that, but he is going to consume carbs/whey protein 1.5-2 hrs pre???? I know when i consume whey PW or the times that i did take it pre (just cause i had no other choice) i was starving...why 1.5 hrs pre workout would just make my workout suck due to the hunger.

You can take the whey 30 mins to 1 hour prior to training with some carbs. It works very well to prevent catabolism during the workout and provide energy w/o bloating your stomach.

 

[swordfish151]

You can take the whey 30 mins to 1 hour prior to training with some carbs. It works very well to prevent catabolism during the workout and provide energy w/o bloating your stomach.

gotcha...in that case i dont see why not....i just know that after i consume whey..im hungry within 20-30 min!

 

[Makavelli]

gotcha...in that case i dont see why not....i just know that after i consume whey..im hungry within 20-30 min!

I'm the same way if I don't eat carbs with it.

 

[silverbackn]

Don't eat before training is great if you want to be an aerobics instructor. What do you think is going to carry you through training your ass off? You need a decent sized meal within an hour and half or 2 hours of training. Everyone is different in how foods affect them. I like oatmeal and some whey about and hour and fifteen minutes before I train.

 

[borg4902]

I just ate 3/4 of a large pizza on the way to the gym. Actually finished my last slice while putting a plate on the bar. Benched 405 on the 4th set. Yea I was full as shit. The only real reason for the wait before training is the uncomfortability level of lifting on a full tank. When bulking their should be no problems in the way of muscle loss while lifting.

 

[silverbackn]

Borg, that brings a tear to my eye, beautiful.

 

[borg4902]

im eating a gaint calzone as we speak. lol

 

[JKurz1]

and u wont eat fruit....lol

 

[Makavelli]

and u wont eat fruit....lol

LMFAO...

Looks like we're the same again Silver.

 

[borg4902]

5 double cheeseburgers today on the way to the gym, and yes I still dont eat fruit. Why eat fruit when god made ice cream? Plus I did 1,620 cals worth of cardio today. So I eat whatever.

 

[kylewoods]

my breakfast is my pre-workout, so i get up at 9.00am, sink down my shake witch is 100g of oatmeal and 2 scoops of whey and sometimes a bannana. wait a hour and i hit the gym. always get a very good workout with that meal in me, never crash at all