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No, it's nothing like Test E. Your LBM gains will likely be much less than 15 pounds. It's good to help increase your wind but that's only while you're on it. That benefit goes away immediately.
How long have you been training?
How old are you?
What do you know about Post Cycle Therapy?
You need to learn a lot more about what you're doing or you'll be sorry later.
How long have you been training?
How old are you?
What do you know about Post Cycle Therapy?
You need to learn a lot more about what you're doing or you'll be sorry later.
Ulter said:
Im 23, been training for idk around 5-6 years. Ive been lurking on this fourm for quite awhile. Im trying to gain some weight but as an athlete im training for power and speed. I had a few guys tell me that EQ would be a good choice for what im trying to do but i knew people on this fourm could help me
BiggT
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What sport are you involved in? And what is your height/weight, and some numbers? Like bench/squat/clean etc etc? generally, how is your body comp? Were they 5-6 years are progressive quality training or 5-6 yeard of fucking around? Because 5-6 years of un-productive training is equal to being a total beginner. Basically, if you're at a level where you can make just as much progress without steroids than you could with them, why take them?
Generally, a lot of athletes like Test/Eq....some like test/deca/eq.
Generally, a lot of athletes like Test/Eq....some like test/deca/eq.
BiggT
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What sport do you play?? and, what position?
With those numbers, and if that is a full, real-deal squat, and a legit, full-range non-assisted by a spotter bench.....from my experience, you're more than likely one of the strongest 210lbers in all NCAA sports, and I am being serious. I'd evaluate what you want and why you want it.
With the info. you gave, nobody is gonna say "stay away from steroids, newbie"......so think about what improvements you'd like to make and how they will benefit you, and do some of your own research so you can take people's advice and make an educated decision for yourself......if you're an outside linebacker, is benching 395 as opposed to 375 really going to improve your performance? No, it isn't......is improving the bench from 275-375 going to improve your performance, absolutely.......There comes a point in sports where you are as strong as you need to be for a given weight.....like I said, from experience, not too many 210lbers in NCAA sports can LEGITIMATELY post those kinds of numbers.
With those numbers, and if that is a full, real-deal squat, and a legit, full-range non-assisted by a spotter bench.....from my experience, you're more than likely one of the strongest 210lbers in all NCAA sports, and I am being serious. I'd evaluate what you want and why you want it.
With the info. you gave, nobody is gonna say "stay away from steroids, newbie"......so think about what improvements you'd like to make and how they will benefit you, and do some of your own research so you can take people's advice and make an educated decision for yourself......if you're an outside linebacker, is benching 395 as opposed to 375 really going to improve your performance? No, it isn't......is improving the bench from 275-375 going to improve your performance, absolutely.......There comes a point in sports where you are as strong as you need to be for a given weight.....like I said, from experience, not too many 210lbers in NCAA sports can LEGITIMATELY post those kinds of numbers.
pitbullrocco
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IMO, if you are ncaa athlete with that much strength, i would stay away from AAS. not worth it.
diet and wind sprints.
diet and wind sprints.
juggy54 said:
this is one of the few real reasons to hop on AAS. If your training is above par, and diet is way above par, then i would actually jump on it.
If you want to look better at the beach, thats not a good reason for using AAS, but that is NOT what your doing...
If you think AAS will help you start then by all means go for it, especially if you think you have what it takes to go pro...
EQ is a both a good bulking and cutting. Cutting = makes you hard and vascular. Bulking= makes your appetite through the roof...
Im actually going to go on some Test E/EQ after DEC to improve my competition #'s some more. EQ also wont put alot of size on you and you will keep alot of your gains with propper PCT.
pitbullrocco
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what he said above.....search the forums for data on that....seems like there was a thread a while back with great suggestions on the timing during off season, etc.....maybe BC61 might know more.....
and you definitely could benefit from a little aas in some aspects....however, i don't see any of it increasing your speed.....
why don't you stab your starter in the back or something
and you definitely could benefit from a little aas in some aspects....however, i don't see any of it increasing your speed.....
why don't you stab your starter in the back or something
acneman
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pitbullrocco said:
something in the back of my brain is ticklin
cant remember the source but here you go it could be outdated or just an assumption someone had once but it feel right in the grey matter
muscles being made up of slow twitch and fast twitch fibers
fast twitch relating to speed
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/exercisephysiology/a/aa080901a.htm
targeting the fast twitch
plyometric exercises and wind sprints should target these fast twitch fibers
making them stronger and possibly increasing speed and explosive movement
studies show that endurance training can modify fast twitch into a hybrid fast/slow so it possible the oppisite could be true
adding aas can only help this process
your progress will be easy to measure by timing sprints and jump height measurement. stand one foot from a wall with hands extended above head (dont use them to assust jumb)jump with marker in hand and mark the higest you can. repeat after a month. reduce frequancy and number of sets in lowerbody weight training, go for high weight and low frequancy.
fast twitch muscle exercises increase HGH so that can only help
i mentioned in another post just a second ago that insulin increases the number of muscle CELLS (satalite muscle cell maturation)not just making the ones you have bigger which is the normal process for muscle hypertrophy
this would be a good addition to your cycle for 4 reasons
1 it is undetectable in drug tests
2 it will increase the number of muscle cells so even if it increases them at your genetic natural ratio you still get an increase of fast twitch fibers that will posably increase your speed. i supect it possible that if the fast twitch muscles are the ones under the most stress at this time, the new cells might be preferintally fast twitch but have seen no studies
3 it will make all of your muscle fibers stronger so ofcourse your fast twitch fibers will get stronger
4 it reduces SHBG sex hormone binding globulin making any tes you are using or have naturally more effective
on the other hand it could make you gain bodyfat and slow you down if used incorrectly, also it could kill you.
so in conclusion talk to your trainer about plyometrics and speed increasing exercises
do a cycle of tes and insulin
be safe
read this
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156144
keep us posted
pitbullrocco
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lol
i fish with a shimano open face bantam curado. green in the shade. brown in the sun. mostly with spinners.
have i said that before?
i fish with a shimano open face bantam curado. green in the shade. brown in the sun. mostly with spinners.
have i said that before?
pitbullrocco
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yeah, the best reel i've ever had.....you can adjust everything, so if your cast isn't "on", you can "cheat" a little
if i'm hunting 5lb'ers+ and i have a big enough spinner, man i can launch that thing clear across the lake.....
if i'm hunting 5lb'ers+ and i have a big enough spinner, man i can launch that thing clear across the lake.....
lanky
Well-known member
i am more of finesse fisherman myself basicly 6ft med action or 6'6 med/hvy 10lb trilene XT. texas rigged worm w/ size 2 gamakatsu offset. old quantum energy e-5 series spining reel.i got my shimano stradic reel and bass pro shops extreeme rod combo stolen last year,,put it next to a tree, came back 5 minutes later after going to the car and it was gone.not much of a baitcaster fan myself..
acneman
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i have and it was great but be afraid, be very afraid...juggy54 said:
because if your arent you wont take all the precautions and then its dangerous
remember to read the link at the bottom and then you can make the decision
but the first half of my post is still my advice regardless of insulin use
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immortalis
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wow... a gear-oriented thread turning into some shit on the American Outdoor Channel! Holy Thread-Jackers Batman 
