Power Question for KOartist and other fighters

[KOArtist]

tren, tren, and tren?? How about lower back pumps from hell that make you feel crippled and then you can't train, train, train?? Im sure its person to person but Tren F'd up my training schedule big time bro. Plus theres talk of "lung scarring" w/ tren, which I cant see helping your wind much.

I liked my EQ only cycle, at 400mg/week. Got real strong by the end, and could feel a noticeable increase in my endurance due to the "red blood cell" thing.

Towards the end of my first anavar cycle now (w/ nothing but proviron) and definitely impressed. About 20 more days to go, strength is up big time (1rm on bench went from 305 to 345 inside of 40 days!), and my weight has only went up a couple pounds, but I think Ive definitely lost some abdominal fat, so its probably like I gained 10lbs muscle, lost 7lbs of fat or something along those lines. Im considering never doing another cycle of anything else but var + proviron. Its THAT good. Best strength drug for sure in my opinion (although Ive never tried halo/drol/ or any of those other toxic ass compounds) It also seems to be magically healing my bad shoulder.

My tren+winny cycle, after all the good things I heard, disappointed me big time. 75mg tren/day +50mg winny/day. Sure, I gained some muscle and strength, but I really felt like shit the whole time, the winny made my joints hurt, and the tren gave me some ridiculous ass lower back and leg pumps that made training next to impossible. I know a lot of people think of tren as the "gear of gods" but I really didnt agree. Everyones different though, so give it a try. U can also try taurine/potassium to avoid these "cramps", which I wasnt aware of then.

Masteron is supposedly good for athletes too, havent tried it yet though, ask Fonz.

Id say basically heres the A list for athletes, and u should find which of these work best for you:
Anavar
EQ
Tren
Winny
Test Prop
Masteron
Halo

 

[DANABOLIC55]

damn!!!!!sorry to hear that KO. No probs so far with him though. not to say that wont happen. I didn't know tren caused sick pumps. I'm considering it for my next cycle-dunno now.

 

[KOArtist]

I havent really heard many others complain about it, maybe my body's just retarded, or maybe the type of tren matters (mine was homebrew, never again), or maybe everyone but me knew about potassium/taurine supplementation. I guess all you can do is give it a run yourself.

also, I feel like I may have heard Fonz mention something about the type of tren being important. U around Fonzarelli? Come school us on Masteron for athletes, and the "best" tren. peace

 

[KOArtist]

once you've been there, you spare no efforts to be prepared the next time you go in. i get HURT if i'm not properly prepared in there, so PLEASE, serious responses only!

Reminds me of that one cats quote in "Life in the Cage" about how "its like a chess game, but your ass is on the line". Seen it?

 

[genarr3]

also, what is so special about test suspension? i've never used it b4

Since you're a SuperHeavy I'll add Deca to the list. Great for joints, great for strength gains. I've used quite a bit of it and never had any "pump" issues.

Test Suspension's intention is to make dogs horny so the mate. That was it's original intention.
It does this by acting nearly instantly.
So if you want an extreme test boost for a day, Suspension will fit that bill.
Some powerlifters will use it on meet day to increase test levels. How well this actually works bio-mechanically I can't say. I've never used it, just know it is used.

This is why I said to try it out in training to see how it works for you.

You might want to give Judo Tom a PM. He's pretty well informed on this subject, that is of gear and MMA.

"some very androgenic compounds feel like they put a lot of stress on my heart" - Well IMO there definitely is such a thing as putting on too much muscle in an endurance sport. We've seen this happen in the UFC. Remember Vitor Belafort vs Randy Couture? I think Vitor went alittle overboard with the gear and got an ass kicking because of it. Too much muscle killed his wind.

Look at the history of boxing, no hugely muscled fighters. Yes some muscular physiques on a few, but they for the most part look more muscled then they actually are due to low bodyfat.

 

[KOArtist]

yeah some guys in college football I knew used to do test susp. the day of a game. Never tried it myself. I wanna hear more about the pros/cons/details of masteron for athletes. fonz?

 

[MMAfighter]

thanx for all the info guys. i've used dbol and drol before with no pump problems, so maybe i'll try the tren. what's the advantage of using test suspension over using heavy doses of orals on fight day?

 

[KOArtist]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Fonz]

yeah some guys in college football I knew used to do test susp. the day of a game. Never tried it myself. I wanna hear more about the pros/cons/details of masteron for athletes. fonz?

Masteron gives you the speed/quickness/vascularity/zero bloat that winstrol gives you w/o the dreaded joint pain. It is also far less harsh than winstrol in relation to your HDL/LDL/Trig levels. Winstrol pretty much erradicates your HDL. Masteron does not. The only thing you really have to worry about on Masteron is your hairline as its a DHT derrivative. I don't suffer from MPB so its not a problem for me.

Fonz

 

[genarr3]

thanx for all the info guys. i've used dbol and drol before with no pump problems, so maybe i'll try the tren. what's the advantage of using test suspension over using heavy doses of orals on fight day?

Pretty much the same theory. But like i said, try it out in training first.