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POWER OUTAGE!!!! NYC and many other cities!

supernav said:
It bet ya 10 bucks it'll be investigated and narrowed down to Wilbur down in Buffalo who ran 3 computers with his nerd friends to play network DOOM. And that caused the local transformer to overload, which started a domino affect and blew out half the coast.

Damn you Wilbur. Damn you and your nerdy friends!!!

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That is nothing. I know a guy who frequently networks 5 computers to play games that are much harder on computers than DOOM. DOOM is pretty ancient. And these aren’t ordinary computers either. He custom built them himself.

I would not be surprised if he found a way to tap into New York so that he could run all those.

I will bet 20 bucks that this mess was caused by the nerd king Shawn.
 
All that walking yesterday was not fun.

The worst part was the lack of calories available. I had to subsist on three breakfast sausages, one big bottle of beer, and a roll of Ritz crackers from 5:00 PM to past 12:00 AM.

I need to eat now and then go to the gym.
 
Boy, you boys really do have wild imaginations.


Yes, the power went out. Everyone was civilized and orderly. Our power came back on at 10:30 pm. We went to the supermarket, just to see if it was open. Not only was it open, but their registers worked. Credit cards were working!!! We had frozen pizza cooked on the barbecue and corn beef sandwiches for dinner. It was pretty fun. It's all over and the world didn't end. Thank god it happened to us civilized north easterners. If it happened to any of you, I think the world would have really ended. JK!;)
 
Oh how much did that suck. I was in the subway when it happened. I was stuck in the subway car for about 45 mintues and then eventually firefighters came and they pointed to way. Everyone was walking slow as hell on the 'catwalk' on the side, which annoyed me every more since i was surrounded by a crowd of gangstas. I eventually jumped onto the tracks and eveyrone followed. Get to the platform, jump on and head out. Now my 2 hour journey to get home begins. Had to walk about 25 blocks in manhatten, then across an entire bridge, and then about another 15 blocks. Let me tell you this... my pants were soaked down to my ankles from sweat.. and my shirt was a whole different color. My shoes molded onto my feet and gave me such caluses..

Check out the pics...
http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dyna...tage081403/index.html?SITE=NYNYP&SECTION=HOME
 
Some things do work

dusty2 said:
THIS WORLD SUCKS BIG TIME! NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK! WONDER WHY?:p


It could have been worse. The techs in Valley Forge should be commended. I had trouble at work but at home power had to have been out for less than a minute.




Why we were spared
By Akweli Parker, Tom Avril and Kevin Dale
Inquirer Staff Writers

Technicians in Valley Forge saw the sudden power surge. Circuit breakers tripped. And within four minutes, the electricity grid that serves Pennsylvania and New Jersey had clamped off the spike that blacked out much of the Northeast yesterday, shielding Philadelphia and points south from the disruption.

As a result, the Mid-Atlantic grid, operated by Valley Forge-based PJM Interconnection L.L.C., experienced only a few spillover blackouts in sections of northern Pennsylvania and northern New Jersey.

Details on what triggered the blackout were still sketchy last night. Canadian officials said it might have originated at a Pennsylvania nuclear plant, but a state official stoutly denied it.

"It's not true," said Maria Smith, spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency. "All five nuclear power plants in the state have been running at 100 percent power all day, all night. No problems. Not even a trash-can fire.

"What we're hearing is that it resulted from a disruption in the power grids in the states to the north and east of us, and cascaded into the Commonwealth."

The outage affected a huge swath of the Northeast, stretching from New England to Detroit and into Canada.

PJM's quick action, coupled with ample power-generating capacity throughout the region, kept the incident from crippling Philadelphia, Harrisburg and Washington, said PJM president Phillip G. Harris.

Working inside the company's nondescript building in an office park, technicians fed reserve power into the grid to smooth out irregularities caused by the surge - keeping the region's lights on. PJM, which operates around the clock, brought in an extra shift of technicians to help out.

It was the kind of moment PJM's technicians practice for, Harris said: "Coordination is rehearsed and drilled several times a year."

By last evening, PJM was sending a modest amount of its reserve power to New York's system, with more available once New York and others cities were capable of handling it.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission reported that nine nuclear reactors at seven sites, including the Oyster Creek plant in Lacey Township, N.J., shut down automatically, as they are designed to do, when they lost their off-site power supplies. It could take 24 hours or more to restart them.

PJM runs what it says is the largest wholesale electricity market in the world. Its experts estimate how much electricity is needed to serve an area that is home to more than 25 million people, then accept bids from electricity generators and wholesalers to supply the needed energy.

It also is responsible for making sure electricity is available reliably throughout its Mid-Atlantic grid, a system that supplies power to all or parts of Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, Ohio, West Virginia and Washington, D.C. Among the companies that participate in the grid are Peco Energy Co. and Public Service Electric & Gas Co.

David Sanko, director of the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency, said at least parts of seven counties in the northwestern section of the state lost power.

Sanko said power was beginning to be restored by 6 p.m.

PJM technicians saw electricity usage in the area under their control drop suddenly by about 5,200 megawatts shortly at 4 p.m. One megawatt is enough electricity to power 750 to 1,000 homes.

"The protective equipment did work... . It operated exactly like it's supposed to," Harris said.

That said, no electric grid is bulletproof, said Chika Nwankpa, professor of electrical and computer engineering at Drexel University.

"During high-temperature conditions, all [regional power operators] are vulnerable," said Nwankpa, who has worked with PJM and several of the region's electric utilities on assorted projects.

Often, blackouts occur when the demand of electricity customers is greater than the amount of electricity being cranked out by power plants.

Likely a number of giant circuit breakers - typically located in a free-standing building at least 40 feet tall - automatically tripped so that dangerously high current did not flow into the Pennsylvania-New Jersey-Maryland region. Otherwise, according to Vijay Vittal, professor of electrical engineering at Iowa State University, there would have been problems over an even wider area.

"If such a large area was affected, it must be a very severe disturbance," said Vittal, member of a national industry-university research group that studies the reliability of the power system. "It could have spread to your area... . If nothing had been done, it could have probably extended out to Iowa and Nebraska."

Protective circuit breakers apparently did not activate quickly enough to protect the region containing Cleveland and Detroit, Vittal said.

"All this happens in fractions of seconds," Vittal said. "This is a very classical cascading outage."


http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/6535863.htm
 
I heard on the news today that apparently it started in some power company that feeds the auto plants in Lansing.

It hit a power company in Ohio that is supposed to doscponnect from the grid when an outage of this type occurs. This is what allowed the outage to cascade into the northeast.

Damn Ohioans. I guarantee someone's gonna lose their jopb over this.

Basically if Ohio had done what Penn. had done it would have been pretty minor.
 
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