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Potassium Citrate for tren insomnia

gymmeister said:
Ins't the Tren insomnia going to be largely from elevated levels of Norepinephrine? I thought that only something alongs the lines as strong as Benzos would really be effective at helping with Tren insomnia (or D-Bol or Test insominia for that matter)?

its not made to cure it by any means. it there to help with mood/aggression and rest. there hasnt been any claims of it being some kind of miricle but it has alot of feedback. i would like to hear what ulter has to say about this
 
bicepts101 said:
why not use cocaine to lose weight? you see what i mean
Ask Diego Maradonna about cocaine and weight loss? He's looking really sexy these days!

My point is that P Seven will not alleviate Tren or AAS insomnia. All the claimants have very 'up-in-the-air' claims about the product, using terms like calming, mood enhancing, sense of well being. We're not talking about becoming spirituallly connected. We are looking for solutions like for hardcore AAS induced insomnia!

The realistic solutions in this case include Benzos like Valium. Benzodiazepines are some of the most effective medicines in use today, if used correctly. They are no more toxic to the liver than anything else discussed on this board.

I'd like to see Ronnie Coleman slow his 'metabolic inferno' down with a few 'soothing dabs' of P Seven and snuggle down for the night! Yeah right!

Sorry Ulter, it's nothing personal. I'm just looking at real world scenarios and solutions here. I'm sure your product has its place.....maybe in more 'natural' sports.
 
BigBlu said:
Ask Diego Maradonna about cocaine and weight loss? He's looking really sexy these days!

My point is that P Seven will not alleviate Tren or AAS insomnia. All the claimants have very 'up-in-the-air' claims about the product, using terms like calming, mood enhancing, sense of well being. We're not talking about becoming spirituallly connected. We are looking for solutions like for hardcore AAS induced insomnia!

The realistic solutions in this case include Benzos like Valium. Benzodiazepines are some of the most effective medicines in use today, if used correctly. They are no more toxic to the liver than anything else discussed on this board.

I'd like to see Ronnie Coleman slow his 'metabolic inferno' down with a few 'soothing dabs' of P Seven and snuggle down for the night! Yeah right!

Sorry Ulter, it's nothing personal. I'm just looking at real world scenarios and solutions here. I'm sure your product has its place.....maybe in more 'natural' sports.


you make valid points

...but lets not compare our selves to the pros.....esspecially Ronnie....we all know that the amount of stress put on his mind and body fair exceeds our own.
 
bicepts101 said:
you make valid points

...but lets not compare our selves to the pros.....esspecially Ronnie....we all know that the amount of stress put on his mind and body fair exceeds our own.
Stress is a relative experience!

I'll leave this one there. I'm just arguing now for the sake of arguing! It's been fun though bros!
 
Sorry I missed all your rants Blu. I just saw this. You have a lot to say for someone who knows so little. Like you say, nothing personal. Do you even know what P Seven is or what's in it?

You're dead wrong of course and P Seven works very well to alleviate the aggression people feel from test and tren. This makes sleeping easier while using it. You made this statement "I TOTALLY disagree that it would be effective against a very powerful hormone". Well guess what Blu that's how P Seven works. Tren is a powerful hormone, P Seven has equally powerful hormones that offsets the imbalance tren causes. That's how it works.

You talk about morality. It's immoral for you to pop off about a product you have never used and don't understand posting it doesn't work when it does. Some unknowing person might actually believe your uninformed rants thinking you know what you're talking about and not use a product that can help.
 
and BTW- I have read several reports that advise people with sleeping problems not to use xanax or valium. These drugs prevent you from going into deep REM sleep.
 
It doesn't work for everyone and nothing does. But it works for far more people than it doesn't. If you're using other meds like Fonz, Omega and others were using they may get in the way. If you're using deca it may not work, for instance. But for those who are only using test/tren it works very well. Oh and since you want to use posts to determine if it works or not I will give you a few as well. I could do this all day but this is enough to get my point across.

03-Feb-2003, 08:50 AM #29
JG1
Mutant

Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: NJ
Gender: M
Posts: 4,229
Macro,

I absolutely love this stuff. Not only does it mellow me out, but my dick is working again...LOL. The increased libido is great.......I went from having no sex drive what so ever, to walking around with a hard-on most of the day.


For Tren users, this product is an absolute must!

[second post]

Been taking 1/4 pippette four times daily, have noticed the following:

Increased mood.....feel calm within minutes after rubbing it in, really works wonder for anxiety.
Sleep better...tren was really fucking up my sleep, been taking four benadryl a night...since starting the P-7 I haven't taken benadrl once, and I'm sleeping MUCH better.
Increased Sex Drive...tren killed my sex drive, since starting the P-7 I actualy feel like I'm on a low dose of test.
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03-Feb-2003, 10:50 AM #30
Big Johnson
Olympian

Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: South of Heaven
Gender: M
Posts: 2,899
I give it a huge thumbs up. I, too, am on tren and within an hour felt my tren irritability dissappear. Its good shit. I woke up feeling good, too, even though I had some of the most vivid dreams last night I have ever experienced in my life. The way it makes you feel is hard to explain. It just makes you feel better all over.
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10-Feb-2003, 07:46 PM #7
Frackal
Da Pope



Join Date: Feb 2000
Gender: M
Posts: 13,768
Ok, I have just returned from the gym and have some interesting observations, and some questions, I'll just put the P7 questions here since maybe others are curious

Observations:

Today is the 5th day of P7. The mood enhancing effects seem to be more pronounced then they were when I first started.

Most impressive thing I have just noticed happened just today pre-workout, I am guessing it is the P7, and not the prop from the amp of sust I injected last night (just started cycle of sust/deca/eq).

Before training I took 1.5 dymetadrine extreme, total of:

150mg caffeine
30mg ephedra
some salicic acid (who cares)
200 or so mg tyrosine and phenylanaline

also took:

1 tablespoon carao
1 ml of P7

Now, I have been using everything but the P7 preworkout for awhile.... within about 30 min I noticed a stark increase in mood elevation, a feeling of being stimulated or 'awake' beyond the Eca, but without an equal increase in jittery-ness.

I had increased strength at the gym and increased pump and vascularity...I still feel qute 'up' and in a very good mood.

So far, I give P7 the following ratings a la Mr. Nobody on a 1-10 scale

Mood elevation: 10
Immune system elevation: ?? Cannot tell
Sleeping better: 7
Preworkout pump and vascularity increase: 6-7
Preworkout Strength: 5-6
Sex drive: ??? Have not noticed increased sex drive, what I am looking forward to trying is testing it with the high nandrolone/low testosterone cycle.
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07-Jul-2003, 09:43 AM #91
benevolent anarchist
Tragically Swollen

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: maryland
Gender: M
Posts: 906 Stuff is a godsend when you’re on tren.


I like all of their products but if I had to pick a favorite it would be P Seven.

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