Pot Fog

[redshirt27se]

getting foggy with it

 

[redshirt27se]

fog off muhfoggers

 

[calveless wonder]

refogging = killing this thread

 

[SouthernLord]

fogless wonder

 

[calveless wonder]

gonna cycle some Fogaplex 100 fgs EOD

 

[mrplunkey]

You potheads are pathetic, grow up and do coke like an adult.

Or at least a little E.

These pot foggots are like the GNC cruisers who really believe that jug of powder is going to treat them like a few cc's of testosterone per week.

 

[-SD-]

I just pinched off a huge fog

 

[-SD-]

Or at least a little E.

These pot foggots are like the GNC cruisers who really believe that jug of powder is going to treat them like a few cc's of testosterone per week.

Im switching to E for its obvious superior biological and pharmacological traits to fog.

 

[mrplunkey]

Im switching to E for its obvious superior biological and pharmacological traits to fog.

Not so sure about that... E definitely puts you into a fog the next day too. My guess is anything that messes with neurotransmitter levels on a medium/long-term basis would do it. I've never noticed it with coke, but I'm guessing that's so fast-acting that it clears quickly.

 

[-SD-]

Not so sure about that... E definitely puts you into a fog the next day too. My guess is anything that messes with neurotransmitter levels on a medium/long-term basis would do it. I've never noticed it with coke, but I'm guessing that's so fast-acting that it clears quickly.

I was joking rob
E is much more detrimental to brain health than fog or alcohol
The one time i did it i was wiped out the next day.
It seems the body always takes back from you what you take from it regarding drug use.

 

[pdaddyII]

WTF(og)

 

[bigpokey]

Fogger Texas Ranger

 

[mrplunkey]

I was joking rob
E is much more detrimental to brain health than fog or alcohol
The one time i did it i was wiped out the next day.
It seems the body always takes back from you what you take from it regarding drug use.

Except for all-natural pot smoke, correct? That makes you more productive and energized! I heard about this guy once who actually got smarter by doing a wake-and-bake for a year straight.

 

[Lambruh]

pudds is a fat fog

 

[nimbus]

fogo de chao

 

[calveless wonder]

the wizard of fog

 

[pdaddyII]

Bar Whores: Return of the One-Eye fog

 

[Smurfy]

Except for all-natural pot smoke, correct? That makes you more productive and energized! I heard about this guy once who actually got smarter by doing a wake-and-bake for a year straight.

lol

 

[-SD-]

Except for all-natural pot smoke, correct? That makes you more productive and energized! I heard about this guy once who actually got smarter by doing a wake-and-bake for a year straight.

Once again if you do anything a year straight its not a good thing. And im not proposing pot makes anyone healthier or better at anything, I think thats obvious. This is all just compared to alcohol.
All i know is i can get up the next morning and jog after fogging the night before. Cant do that with any other substance Ive tried.

 

[mrplunkey]

Once again if you do anything a year straight its not a good thing. And im not proposing pot makes anyone healthier or better at anything, I think thats obvious. This is all just compared to alcohol.
All i know is i can get up the next morning and jog after fogging the night before. Cant do that with any other substance Ive tried.

I beg to differ.

Am J Hypertens. 2011 Feb;24(2):162-8. Epub 2010 Nov 18.

Daily red wine consumption improves vascular function by a soluble guanylyl cyclase-dependent pathway.
Botden IP, Langendonk JG, Meima ME, Boomsma F, Seynhaeve AL, ten Hagen TL, Jan Danser AH, Sijbrands EJ.
Source

Department of Internal Medicine, Erasmus University Medical Center, Rotterdam, The Netherlands.

Abstract

BACKGROUND:

Polyphenols in red wine are supposed to improve endothelial function. We investigated whether daily red wine consumption improves in-vivo vascular function by reducing endothelin-1 (ET-1). Additional pathways mediating this effect were studied using porcine coronary arteries (PCAs).

METHODS:

Eighteen young healthy women drank red wine daily for 3 weeks. Vascular function was evaluated by determining forearm blood flow (FBF) responses to endothelium-dependent (acetylcholine (ACh)) and endothelium-independent (sodium nitroprusside (SNP)) vasodilators. PCAs were suspended in organ baths and exposed to the endothelium-dependent vasodilator bradykinin, the nitric oxide (NO) donor S-nitroso-N-acetyl-L,L-penicillamine (SNAP) and/or red wine extract (RWE).

RESULTS:

ACh-induced and SNP-induced FBF increases were equally enhanced after 3 weeks of red wine consumption, but an immediate enhancement (i.e., after drinking the first glass) was not observed. Vice versa, plasma ET-1 levels were not decreased after 3 weeks, but we observed an acute drop after drinking one glass of wine. RWE relaxed preconstricted PCAs in an endothelium-, NO-, and soluble guanylyl cyclase (sGC)/guanosine-3',5'-cyclic monophosphate (cGMP)-dependent manner. Short RWE exposure reduced the response to bradykinin and SNAP by inactivating sGC. This effect disappeared upon prolonged RWE exposure.

CONCLUSIONS:

The enhanced FBF response following 3 weeks of red wine consumption, but not after one glass, reflects a change in smooth muscle sensitivity. Alterations in sGC responsiveness/activity, rather than changes in ET-1, appear to underlie this phenomenon.

PMID: 21088673

 

[calveless wonder]

that's 3 weeks.

and notice that any effects on liver function or neurotransmitters were not part of the study.

you can find any good aspect of any particular drug that helps something, but does not offset the other effects it has

 

[-SD-]

I should have clarified getting intoxicated on any substance a year straight is not ever going to be good no matter if weed or alcohol or anything else.
A glass of red wine is not drinking for intoxication. Also alcohol has different delivery forms such as wine, beer, hard liquor which can greatly differ in metabolic absorption and rate of intoxication. A valid comparison would be a few beers everyday or a couple shots everyday. I suspect the red wine daily benefits are due to the antioxidants not the alcohol content.

all those research studies may or may not translate fully to real life but Ive seen way too many smart productive people that are regular foggers.

 

[AFeedz]

Awesome. Let's all post pointless studies.

Am J Physiol Heart Circ Physiol. 2008 Feb;294(2):H605-12. Epub 2007 Nov 30.
Dose-related effects of red wine and alcohol on hemodynamics, sympathetic nerve activity, and arterial diameter.

Spaak J, Merlocco AC, Soleas GJ, Tomlinson G, Morris BL, Picton P, Notarius CF, Chan CT, Floras JS.
Source

University Health Network, Mount Sinai Hospital, Division of Cardiology, Department of Medicine, University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. [email protected]

Abstract

The cardiovascular benefits of light to moderate red wine consumption often have been attributed to its polyphenol constituents. However, the acute dose-related hemodynamic, vasodilator, and sympathetic neural effects of ethanol and red wine have not been characterized and compared in the same individual. We sought to test the hypotheses that responses to one and two alcoholic drinks differ and that red wine with high polyphenol content elicits a greater effect than ethanol alone. Thirteen volunteers (24-47 yr; 7 men, 6 women) drank wine, ethanol, and water in a randomized, single-blind trial on three occasions 2 wk apart. One drink of wine and ethanol increased blood alcohol to 38 +/- 2 and 39 +/- 2 mg/dl, respectively, and two drinks to 72 +/- 4 and 83 +/- 3 mg/dl, respectively. Wine quadrupled plasma resveratrol (P < 0.001) and increased catechin (P < 0.03). No intervention affected blood pressure. One drink had no heart rate effect, but two drinks of wine increased heart rate by 5.7 +/- 1.6 beats/min; P < 0.001). Cardiac output fell 0.8 +/- 0.3 l/min after one drink of ethanol and wine (both P < 0.02) but increased after two drinks of ethanol (+0.8 +/- 0.3 l/min) and wine (+1.2 +/- 0.3 l/min) (P < 0.01). One alcoholic drink did not alter muscle sympathetic nerve activity (MSNA), while two drinks increased MSNA by 9-10 bursts/min (P < 0.001). Brachial artery diameter increased after both one and two alcoholic drinks (P < 0.001). No beverage augmented, and the second wine dose attenuated (P = 0.02), flow-mediated vasodilation. One drink of ethanol dilates the brachial artery without activating sympathetic outflow, whereas two drinks increase MSNA, heart rate, and cardiac output. These acute effects, which exhibit a narrow dose response, are not modified by red wine polyphenols.

To me, that sounds like one serving of wine or alcohol is somewhat beneficial, but after two you're starting to put stress on the body. Moderation is awesome...for foggers and winos.

 

[mrplunkey]

I'm beginning to understand how all these pot foggots work.

1) Bolster their own claims with fun antectodal stories.

2) When the science disagrees with them, question the study.

So "I know some guy who ..." works for their own argument, but suddenly the become an official reviewer of a peer-moderated publication when they see a study they don't like.

I understand now.

 

[-SD-]

Kinda like how steroids ended up a Schedule 3 narcotic yet we all know they shouldnt be. Because of the massive amount of anectdotal evidence and personal experiences.

 

[calveless wonder]

I'm beginning to understand how all these pot foggots work.

1) Bolster their own claims with fun antectodal stories.

2) When the science disagrees with them, question the study.

So "I know some guy who ..." works for their own argument, but suddenly the become an official reviewer of a peer-moderated publication when they see a study they don't like.

I understand now.

half of the people you're calling pot foggots either don't smoke pot at all or smoke once in a blue moon.

ever think you're just completely wrong and use ridiculous hypothetical scenarios and analogies to rationalize your own alcoholism?

 

[redshirt27se]

scrooge mcfog up in here

 

[calveless wonder]

It's funny how plunk points out that MDMA helps with PTSD but fails to mention brain cell necrosis.

yet doesn't point out the benefits of marijuana for glaucoma and uses the unsubstantiated claim of amotivational syndrome as the main point to why it's so terrible

personally, MDMA is the best drug i've ever taken recreationally. but anyone who doesn't think it does damage, short term for one time users or those who take significant (year long + breaks), and long term for more than that is clearly delusional


all drugs have benefits of some sort and negative effects, it's really about what level of neurotoxicity you're subjecting yourself to as a whole

 

[bigpokey]

Not so sure about that... E definitely puts you into a fog the next day too. My guess is anything that messes with neurotransmitter levels on a medium/long-term basis would do it. I've never noticed it with coke, but I'm guessing that's so fast-acting that it clears quickly.

oh man did u save the day plunk i was freakin out that i wasn't gonna be able to smoke any tweeds tonight since i have a job interview in the mornin, but thanks to ur advice now i got an 8 ball and ima get railed out zooted and ill be fine in the mornin! what a save!

 

[bigpokey]

Ahnold Schwarzenfogger

 

[mrplunkey]

oh man did u save the day plunk i was freakin out that i wasn't gonna be able to smoke any tweeds tonight since i have a job interview in the mornin, but thanks to ur advice now i got an 8 ball and ima get railed out zooted and ill be fine in the mornin! what a save!

I'm pretty sure if you'll just take the basket out of the fryer when the buzzer sounds, Mickee-dee's will still hire you even if you did party a little hard the night before.

And if that doesn't work, just start chanting: "I'm lovin' it!"

 

[PICK3]

alcohol has different delivery forms such as wine, beer, hard liquor which can greatly differ in metabolic absorption and rate of intoxication.

In my lifetime I'll produce enough to impregnate most of the female pop on the planet

however, I'm knot sure if my "delivery form" is up to it


just sayin'

 

[mrplunkey]

It's funny how plunk points out that MDMA helps with PTSD but fails to mention brain cell necrosis.

yet doesn't point out the benefits of marijuana for glaucoma and uses the unsubstantiated claim of amotivational syndrome as the main point to why it's so terrible

personally, MDMA is the best drug i've ever taken recreationally. but anyone who doesn't think it does damage, short term for one time users or those who take significant (year long + breaks), and long term for more than that is clearly delusional


all drugs have benefits of some sort and negative effects, it's really about what level of neurotoxicity you're subjecting yourself to as a whole

Yes, by all means. Let's legalize a recreational drug because 0.76% of the US population has glaucoma.

 

[mrplunkey]

Kinda like how steroids ended up a Schedule 3 narcotic yet we all know they shouldnt be. Because of the massive amount of anectdotal evidence and personal experiences.

But I do support the tight controls of steroids. It makes complete sense to me for them to be difficult to obtain.

 

[bigpokey]

I'm pretty sure if you'll just take the basket out of the fryer when the buzzer sounds, Mickee-dee's will still hire you even if you did party a little hard the night before.

And if that doesn't work, just start chanting: "I'm lovin' it!"

knot interested in what u tell pick3 when he's diggin for nuggets in ur backside homo.... ill stick to foggin, u'll stick to faggin i guess

 

[mrplunkey]

knot interested in what u tell pick3 when he's diggin for nuggets in ur backside homo.... ill stick to foggin, u'll stick to faggin i guess

You're just bitter 'cause they don't trust you with the fries yet.

 

[-SD-]

But I do support the tight controls of steroids. It makes complete sense to me for them to be difficult to obtain.

This conflicts with your libertarian gooberment hands-off beliefs regarding drugs rob. Roids are arguably more dangerous than fog but they are still more easily obtainable legally than fog. I thought you were a "my body my choice" type?

 

[bigpokey]

speedy fogzales

 

[bigpokey]

This conflicts with your libertarian gooberment hands-off beliefs regarding drugs rob. Roids are arguably more dangerous than fog but they are still more easily obtainable legally than fog. I thought you were a "my body my choice" type?

pot fog callin the kettle black?

 

[PICK3]

you'll just take the basket out of the fryer

what kinda Mo talk is that

 

[mrplunkey]

This conflicts with your libertarian gooberment hands-off beliefs regarding drugs rob. Roids are arguably more dangerous than fog but they are still more easily obtainable legally than fog. I thought you were a "my body my choice" type?

I'm all for "my body my choice". But we have to eliminate "someone else's choice, my bill" first.

 

[calveless wonder]

I'm all for "my body my choice". But we have to eliminate "someone else's choice, my bill" first.

This is the plunkey I generally agree with

 

[calveless wonder]

Yes, by all means. Let's legalize a recreational drug because 0.76% of the US population has glaucoma.

And what percentage of the population suffers from PTSD?

 

[mrplunkey]

And what percentage of the population suffers from PTSD?

I don't want MDMA legalized either.

Once I'm not paying for the consequences, I'd be all for having pot, MDMA, test, oxy's, anadrol, shrooms, coke, anavar, heroin and anything else that will sell available at the convenience store of your choice.

I still wouldn't use pot personally. And I'd also like the freedom to decide which employees of my company would be eligible to use it and remain employed.

 

[PICK3]

I don't want MDMA legalized either.

Once I'm not paying for the consequences, I'd be all for having pot, MDMA, test, oxy's, anadrol, shrooms, coke, anavar, heroin and anything else that will sell available at the convenience store of your choice.

I still wouldn't use pot personally. And I'd also like the freedom to decide which employees of my company would be eligible to use it and remain employed.

In for freedom to choose which route to administer said narcs

 

[-SD-]

I'm all for "my body my choice". But we have to eliminate "someone else's choice, my bill" first.

Well shit, MJ is the least of your worries if thats the case lol