post-workout carbs?

[test-monkey]

in the past I use to drink those horrible shakes which to me are crap that contain a ton of chemicals and not to mention the $$ it cost, will add up at the end of the month.

so 10-15 min after my workout's I eat either chicken or eggs whites for my protein and a baked potato, or a huge bowl of pasta as my post workout carbs. besides these carbs which I know are high in GI what other carbs do you recomend? and what do you think of using solid food to carb up post workout?

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

I say you drink a glass of OJ after a workout to restore blood sugar levels, and then have some protein supplement. I suggest http://www13.netrition.com/optimum_whey_page.html

Get the Vanilla Ice Cream flavor. It's the best bang for the buck out there in terms of protein supplements. I did the math awhile ago, and it's still true as far as I know.

An hour after your workout you should then ingest whole food, like tuna or chicken.

 

[test-monkey]

what's so bab about whole food right after a workout? I know potatos give you an insulin spick very quickly after being injested and eggs are absorbed into the blood stream very quickly also

 

[ohashi]

It takes longer for whole foods to digest than it does for whey. What you want to do post-workout is have a shake ready, composed of whey and a 50/50 mix of dextrose and maltodextrin. Right after your workout, slam half of it down, then sip on the other half for half an hour. ~45 minutes after you finish the drink, you should have a protein rich meal (real food) with complex carbs.

 

[test-monkey]

It takes longer for whole foods to digest than it does for whey. What you want to do post-workout is have a shake ready, composed of whey and a 50/50 mix of dextrose and maltodextrin. Right after your workout, slam half of it down, then sip on the other half for half an hour. ~45 minutes after you finish the drink, you should have a protein rich meal (real food) with complex carbs.

that is what I use to do, but I got tired of spending the $$ on whey, maltodextin and making and drinking that nasty shit, do you think i'm hindering gains with my post-workout meals??

 

[test-monkey]

or should I keep doing what i'm doing and add the oj?

 

[ohashi]

You're definitely not maximizing your gains by skipping out on the whey, dextrose, and malto PW shake.

 

[test-monkey]

I wonder how the old timers did so well without all that like arnold, franco, ect??

 

[JKurz1]

I LOVE the choc. mint, but I'm a mint chocolate chip FREAK.....anywho, w/ everyone using maltod. in their PW shake, does this mean meal replacement shakes (Myoplex, etc.) are actually horrible for you during the day (in between meals) because they'll spike your insulin levels? What is you take Rala first? Or even metamucil....to slow digestion? Any thoughts?

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Monkey, that protein I linked you to does not taste bad at all. It tastes amazing, as a matter of fact. It's not too expensive either. If you can, buy whole foods obviously, but definitely sacrifice some funding for protein powder if you can.

 

[test-monkey]

Monkey, that protein I linked you to does not taste bad at all. It tastes amazing, as a matter of fact. It's not too expensive either. If you can, buy whole foods obviously, but definitely sacrifice some funding for protein powder if you can.

thanks bro, what about carbs? do you think potatos and pasta are ok with powder protein?

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Yes, definitely. I could go for some pasta right now, actually haha. If you can, get http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=10819 that. Take that with some protein powder post-workout, and then food a little later. That $10 tub will last you quite some time, so it's affordable.

 

[geoffgarst]

You should be taking in quick acting carbs right after workout, preferably within 15 mins, but no later than 30 minutes. This is when the glycogen window closes. By taking in carbs PW, then you feed your muscles and restore glycogen stores. The amount of carbs varies according to your weight. For someone who weighs 210 lbs and 14% BF should take in about 164 grams. There is a useful calculator here:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/pierce2.htm

Geoff

 

[kingc_79]

i usually drink a protein shake and add dextrose. i use protein from www.allthewhey.com cheapest ive found for whey isolate.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

What's the big difference between isolate and concentrate, if there is any. The concentrate blend is extremely cheap, $20 for 5 lb. I been paying $30 (with shipping) to get from Netrition. Oh man, shit's goin' down - haha.

Edit
And the shipping is pretty cheap too! I like this!

By the way, Geoff, I think those calculators you see everywhere, are a bunch of bullshit. Like on T-mag there was one to calculate your daily caloric needs, by finding thermo effect of food, your BMR, daily activity, and a bunch of other factors thrown in. It came to a total of maybe 4000 or something. At my bodyweight, I need maybe 3000 to bulk.

I checked that one, it says I need 128 carbs post-workout. I'm sure that's going to make that big a difference. One serving of the dextrose powder from supplement direct is 75 grams of pure dextrose, I'm sure it's enough.

Not bashing you or anything bro, just saying I think those things are crap.

 

[kingc_79]

i dont know of the difference. i actually preffer concentrate bc i beleive most protein is protein when it comes to powders. it's just amount that matters. everything else is all bout the name on the tub. i actually ordered the isolate from them the first time by mistake and then found the concentrate was 10bucks cheaper.

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Yeah, it's $33.90 to order from Netrition. All The Whey is $19.99 + $5.95 shipping, so that comes out to $25.94. Damn, saving myself $7.96 right there. Pretty good. Order 3 times pretty much and I get an extra tub of protein from my savings. Nice!

 

[JerseyDevil]

Try a drink called SURGE. It has the right mixture you need for recovery.