I am stacking Dermacrine with Epi-Strong right now. Only a few days in. I have a log going on here and on N2BM, SuppJunkies 2010 Clorothoxy KTS Log. The first half was Chlorothoxy and HcGenerate, 3 weeks, and now I am on the Epi and Dermacrine for four more weeks then PCT..SJ
Female viewpoint: I used dermacrine by itself and loved it. No real muscle growth but energy and an overall "good feeling" Women will understand what I mean.